Fortunately for me a free ticket landed in my lap this evening, so I will be going.
Unfortunately, I am a horrible pessimist, and the final score will be 27-24 for the Irish. I fear the long ball.
Fortunately for me a free ticket landed in my lap this evening, so I will be going.
Unfortunately, I am a horrible pessimist, and the final score will be 27-24 for the Irish. I fear the long ball.
...is NOT acceptable. I refuse to accept it.
If it happens, I will veto it.
who negged you for expressing an honest prediction, but it wasn't me. Just thinking Michigan would lose (though you are rooting for Michigan) isn't grounds for a negging.
Unless you're predicting a loss to Delaware State.
Agreed on the pessimism. I like that we're at home (quarterbacks should be comfortable), but our secondary is our biggest weakness and passing is Notre Dame's biggest strength. It should be a hell of a game that they just barely win.
Luke: I dont believe it.
Yoda: That is why you failed.
There is no try only do... that is why you failed.
"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda
Are you saying that my pessimism will cause the team to lose? Because, trust me, my optimism hasn't exactly won us a lot of games in the past.
I'd say our offense is more potent than last year and their defense is no great shakes but this will be first time big-game pressure for a lot of players. I think we can put up 21-24 points on them.
If our defense keeps the Emu on his back most of the game, we win this one 21-10 or 21-14.
If we can't get pressure on them, 28-21 or 35-21 Notre Dame.
Not a pessimism thing, I just can't imagine beating this team unless Clausen has CONSTANT pressure on him.
I say that the score is 35-28 Michigan. High scoring game
Tate throws a TD to Koger, also runs for one. Minor gets the late 4th quarter TD at the goal line. Michael Shaw busts a long TD and outruns everyone, Warren has a pick six, and Brandon Graham comes up with 5 total tackles. 2 sacks, 2 TFL, and a solo tackle.
Jimmy throws 3 TD, 2 to Floyd and 1 to Rudolph. Also throws 3 int due to constant pressure. They get no help from the run game, and Tate makes a freshman mistake and ND gets a pick six.
It's 28-28 with Floyd hauling in his 2nd touchdown, Tate drives down the field, and Minor breaks a tackle and gets in for the TD.
VERY Optimistic, but I'm an optimist regardless so :P
You forgot to mention the 69 yard TD run that Denard has. Make that 42-28 Michigan.
You forgot Zoltan rushing for two touchdowns. Make that 56-28 Michigan.
Close game, with both defenses struggling in the second half. Both teams score more than 30 but Michigan has a few more points at the end.
I think I should at least get a date with Tate.
Miss Cleo? Is that you?(to Korean Wolverine)
28, Michigan 17, Notre Dame...I hope
Minor is the difference in this game.
Also a pessimist, but being a pessimist worked out well last week.
I don't think I've seen anyone pick ND as this much of favorite. Are you related to Big Lou?
Is that a challenge :)
If you are a true Irish lover, are you gonna let someone on MGoBlog out hype them?
I don't see it so much of a route as much as ND getting an extra late TD to make it look worse than what it is. I don't see them letting up with a 11 point lead.
Like I said, I'm admittedly very pessimistic about things, and I think some of it is fear that the freshmen have a freshmen level game in their first real test.
Add that we don't know how healthy Minor is, Hemmingway is out, our secondary (safeties and depth) may not be the strongest against a team that will pass quite a bit, their OL looking non-incompetent against Nevada, and the fact that this isn't ND's major contributors' first trip to AA, there's a lot of negatives that could be in place.
So yeah, a lot of that is probably over thinking it, but that's what I do.
... your psychologist is right. We lost by 18 points last year. We played in South Bend. We had Threet/Sheridan and a lot of guys who did not buy into the new system. We had five fumbles and two interceptions (most on our side of the field). And you are picking us to lose by the same amount -- 18 points -- again this year?
You have a right to your opinion, but it's unnecessarily negative to me. Just my opinion.
Tate to Odoms with 2 minutes left FTW. Brandon Graham and Mike Martin set up camp in the ND backfield all day. Zoltan scares the bird-crap out of a flock of migratory birds overhead.
Michigan 38 ND 21.....Half time 24-7.....we play 4 quarters of football, dont sit on a lead, 10 different players with receptions, collective 300+ yards rushing. Charlie eats his head set out of frustration, followed by his shirt, bra and girdle. RR is carried off the field on the teams shoulders...
And a nice national coming out party for Manti Teo!
with his speed he will be seeing much more time this week
Is NDs back-up qb really that good??
I'd say it's a push.
My only question, since I didn't watch any of the ND game, is how much Jimmah played in the second half. Looking at the box score it looked like he was involved throughout the game. While Tate did play for M in the second half, he only played to start the drives and the other QB's killed them and failed on the scoring. Rich didn't appear to really be trying to score in the second half, not that I remember (having sheridan and coner in is NOT trying to score, as is NOT throwing deep passes)
So, mostly you have to compare first halves. Rivals felt that Nevada and WMU were basically the same quality (ranked one after the other). If you take out second half scoring when M basically quit on the attempted offensive production, you have a score of 31-28, M. Both teams had defenses that stopped similar quality offenses. Both teams had offenses which scored similar points on similar quality D's. I guess the biggest difference is that M had a larger drop off in the second half when defensive backups were in.
So what does that give us?
M has a (maybe) better offense. Minor being back will hopefully mean more than Hemmingway being out.
The defenses MAY be similar in overall quality, but ND's is most likely deeper (duh). If nobody gets hurt and we keep their drives short, we should come out on the + side. Long drives or injured players, and ND probably scores more.
Wait, is Hemmingway really out?
He is listed as "questionable" on the injury report and RR called him "doubtful" on his radio show. Unless RR is playing cat and mouse on this one, my guess is he will not play unless we really need him.
That seems to sum it up for me, and the difference will be the home field and Charlie having a upset stomach from some bad eggs at the 3rd buffet he visits Sat morning...
Clausen was in for the 3rd and maybe 2 plays into the 4th but it wasn't much. Crist came in to finish out the game.
It seemed to go down somewhat in the second half. I wasn't sure from the box score when Clausen was still playing, but I think the lack of production other than on an 88 yard td pass, 2nd play of the posession? doesn't show any sustained offensive production in the second half.
If this is true, it's a possible showing that ND got outcoached in the second half, but that Nevada didn't have the athletes to compete for the long ball.
This would favor M, who hopefully has better athletes than Nevada.
I wouldn't really bank on that, we were content to keep the clock running and play good defense, plus we went 3 deep at WR, TE, 4 deep at RB, and the Oline saw a much more expanded rotation as well. We're deep but not deep enough to not expect a drop off at some point.
Unless you live 15 minutes away from Nazi germany like I do here in Columbus I AM in a sea of scarlet in grey. Not many of me in this area of Ohio. Anyways I've got a very close win but I have Michigan with the upset ND'S season goes downhill Saturday with Michigan winning 37-30!
SW Columbus, actually. But Hilliard city schools.
So. I DO live IN columbus. And I'm tired of OSU fans. But Columbus is actually a very nice city.
As I say, except for the OSU fans.
And my wife worked for OSU. I resisted the evil, however, and when I'm done with school (again and FINALLY) I'm still not going to work for them. Even with their tempting benefits.
"My only question, since I didn't watch any of the ND game, is how much Jimmah played in the second half. Looking at the box score it looked like he was involved throughout the game."
Not really sure why a three-year starter needed that much experience in a 35-0 blowout, but I'm not a Decided Schematic Advantage either.
BTW, the untold story of the OU debacle last week (at least I haven't heard anyone talk about it) - remember last season when Sam Bradford was playing 60 minutes in blowouts and OU was pushing over 60 points every week? I think that came back to bite them.
I mean, they have other quarterbacks on the team - they could have used the experience last year and been serviceable last Saturday. Even a couple of second halves might have produced a more game-ready palyer than a redshirt freshman in his first snaps.
Michigan 38 ND 0
We've done that against ND two of the last three games at the Big House. Let's try something new.
Tate tosses TDs to 4 different receivers and Graham has 3 sacks with a forced fumble.
Defensive game the first half (10-7 Michigan), second half opens up a bit.
If this is way off, please correct me, but I always thought Sam Young look rather ponderous and slow. Not that he is bad, but I could see him having a really hard time handling Graham and Roh.
I will predict M-31, ND-28
although I have to preface that by saying I always predict a michigan win(13-0 national champs woooo)
Michigan will either win big or lose a heart breaker
The optimist in me says
We will lose a heartbreaker eventually, but not this Saturday. As Tebow scores his final TD of his collegiate career with one of those jump ball passes to win the game and the national title...but we'll get 'em next year. We have to lose our first game sometime...
I have kind of a bad feeling about this one, but I'll still pick Michigan because I really hope they can pull it off. I'll say 31-27 Michigan.
is about the deep ball and pressure. Stop the deep ball and put pressure on Jimmy to make him force throws, and make mistakes. Tate hopefully stays smart limits the mistakes 31-28 Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeichigan
Someone posted that the Underdogs are .500 in this series. This is at the Big House. Do not underestimate our running game and ball control to keep Jimmah off the field. Also do not disrespect and underestimate our Defense's ability to smack Jimmah in the mouth and get in his head.
UM two Long drives for TDs. Defense scored a TD for us on interception return. Two Game breaking scores for our hidden Playmaker, ala Manningham coming out party. (Denard?)
Two Big Irish pass plays TD, One Long Drive TD, with running TD , 3 Clausen INT, Special Team TD?
Throw in a Field Goal Each?
M 38 ND 31
Michigan will be more fired up this week than last. ND will come out flat, because it's what they've done so far under Charlie in big games. A bit of adversity later and they will fold like the New York Mets. Notre Dame doesn't have a short passing game; if the front 7 can generate pressure we will sit in a deep cover 2 all day long. Michigan's speed will make Notre Dame cry. BOOK IT!
Notre Dame 16
We are going to put up a good fight, match touchdown for touchdown, but I look at our depth on defense (and the fact that there is a greater pressure on Fat Weis to win) and I have a feeling it will go to the domers.
Call me pessimistic as well, but I still think we haven't gotten our tickets to the gun show JUST yet. We still have a lot to prove, remember we played a MAC team, not a ranked opponent. Maybe I'm just trying not to get my hopes up, but I think we need to be realistic here as well.
If we are even in the turnover battle or better and with Stevie Brown no longer playing safety...this game should go our way.
The fact we almost beat ND last year despite fumbling the game away, and playing in the rain, bodes well for us this year. Can you believe we actually almost pulled it off last year?!?! Seems ridiculous doesn't it??
That game was in the rain, so speed advantage = us.
That game was in the rain, so turnovers minimized compared to last year = us.
Jimmy Clausen a year older, but is he really wiser? He doesn't seem like one of those guys you beg for on your team in a pressure situation, unlike Jesus Tebow, McCoy, or Bradford with a normal AC joint. He doesn't have the "it" for me.
I think we take this one 27-20.
EDIT: I kept the score down a little b/c both teams are gonna be a little conservative b/c both coaches and teams really need this game. Zoltan is gonna be huge for us and switching the field is gonna be critical. I think RR pulls a bit of the Lloyd in him and keeps the gameplan a bit simple if we're up.
I will not venture a guess about this game until THE KNOWLEDGE chimes in. He's hiding out somewhere with J. D. Salinger. I think they sip Yerba Mate or maybe Coca tea and talk about the hypocrisy of the cosmos. They also accurately predict things about Michigan football, which is also cosmically significant in ways that no outsider can understand.
BG and The Hulk will be the difference!
Weiss loses control and eats our playbook... but we still prevail
I heard the cover is made of solid Milk Chocolate
Weis 24 Blimpy Burgers 0
Las Vegas odds say 3.5 for ND but Blue pulls out the upset
I believe that there will be a lot of scoring with Notre Dame's okay defense and Michigan having a really young defense in some spots especially the cornerbacks. The Irish have really talented receivers that will make some big plays which in the end could hurt them with how good clausen is. But Michigan is at home this year with a lot of momentum from last week with that being their first win in their opening week in 3 years. Look for Michigan to come out strong and make some big plays with Forcier and Robinson with an addition of Minor. On the defensive of side, I think Graham will make a few big plays this week because I know he wants to beat Notre Dame in his Senior year. My prediction is Michigan winning 38-31. Close game but Michigan will find a way to win. GO BLUE!
ND has been recruiting talent for a while, at least on par with Michigan, and they're all a year older than our players. Now the one player who's shown he can stretch the field is out. It'll take an excellent rushing performance and constant pressure to take this. That's asking a lot of both lines.
I'm banking on the freshmen and sophmores not knowing (or caring) about pressure and playing out of their minds. Also, have you seen the pipes on Martin? Those guns would make me optimistic in a convent.
They have Weis, and thats an advantage for us even if we didnt have a coach.
I go with the reverse voodoo hex.
ND 12,098 UM2
That will guaranty a Michigan victory!
Looks like they are not healthy for this game. Cissoko doesn't seem to be healthy, or at his best.
Notre Dame 33 Michigan 17
Notre Dame will cover the spread, unfortunately.
WOW, I had no idea Michigan was a 22 pt favorite now!!
Saturday. Despite the negative feelings about Hemmingway and the deep threats of Tate and Floyd, this Michigan team has something to prove and to do so, they need and want this badly.
Minor Rage + Shoelace run amok + Tate's accuracy and BG destroying Jimmah = Michigan 38, ND 27.
Zoltan sacks Jimmah in the end zone as time expires.
After he kicks the 98 yard punt to put it there including being there to catch the punt in flight at the one.
The psychic leprechaun I encountered stumbling home from the bar last night swore to me the score would be 31-20 Notre Dame; including a minimum of 4 Michigan pass interference penalties!
I was as outraged as the next Michigan fan so I beat him silly with his own shillelagh, and left him broken and sobbing on a trash heap next to the Davison freeway.
I've got to go with his prediction though, urine soaked anthropomorphic mascots never lie.
ND 28, UM 17
I predicted with my GM at work who's a huge domer unfortunately. We will find out Saturday and I hope I'm wrong.
UM 24, ND 14.
Jimmah sentenced to "Death Roh" early, loses "it" factor. UM makes plenty of freshman/sophomore mistakes, but has enough to pull this one out.
I'm going to take the road less traveled and say that this will be a defensive, low-scoring game. Notre Dame's D will be prepared and make Tate and Co. look like freshman, forcing us to pound the rock with Minor and stick to short passes. Our Dline will get to Clausen on more than a few occasions and the secondary will surprise us all and eliminate the deep threat. Warren has two INT's, and ND coughs it up 4 times total. Denard breaks another long run for a TD, and Tate hits Koger for a short TD after a brutally long drive at the end of the 4th to seal it.
sam mcguffie got his against nd last year,
shoelace will do that and more this yr.
2-3 rushing tds for denard.
I almost hit it right on the nose last week, so I'm feeling good about my pick this week. I think it's going to be close, I was glad to see our kicking game looked respectable last week. Have to figure we'll run the ball a little better this week too. 30-28 UM.
but is anyone else annoyed by the "last year we did X against ND and lost due to Y, so this year we will definitely do X - Y + some extra and we'll win" argument? Yes, we have gotten a lot better, but so has Notre Dame. They are not the same 6-6 team they were when we "should have beaten them," regardless of the fact that they are the same players. We won't turn the ball over 6 times, but that won't guarantee us a win like many people seem to believe.
Why the hell are there Michigan fans in this blog fearing Notre Dame this Saturday? WTF kind of fans are you?! I go into every game as a fan prepared and pysched for a great game. You go into a game with fear you lose either way. It's a game right? And there's a chance of winning right? OF COURSE THERE IS A DAMN GOOD CHANCE! They have to come to our stadium our Big House and play a perfect game against us if they want to win. God people lets get some spirit some rallying going instead of "let's be realistic" Lets Be Optimistic damn it! Instead of "lets face the facts" how about Let's Show Them What We can Do! "Instead of a close loss" how about an Amazing Win! God damn let's support and fight through this game not dread or doubt it. HAIL TO THE VICTORS! Saturday belongs to us in our house!
This blog is not, and has never been about, wild optimism. It is about honest analysis, an understanding of the team that we have, not the team that we want. Michigan is sorely lacking depth in the secondary. It sucks, but that's how it is. Notre Dame wins games through the air. It does not make us bad fans to look at this situation objectively and predict a Notre Dame victory.
I'm not going to show up on Saturday grumbling, or tell others that we will lose so why bother. I will be excited, I will cheer, and I will hope that we win just as much as you do. But if we lose, I will not freak out and say things like "this is unacceptable!" like plenty of irrational fans surely will.
17-16 Michigan. I have a feeling the young QBs will struggle out of the gate, whether it's nerves, being too amped up, etc. They'll play ugly well into the 3rd quarter, but still be hanging around in striking distance. A late 4th quarter TD drive will be necessary, highlighted by converting a couple tough 3rd downs. Tate finds Koger in the endzone for the go ahead score and the eventual winner. Bonus points to this prediction if Woolfolk picks off Clausen on ND's last potential game-winning drive. Extra bonus points if ABC cuts to Jimmah crying on the sideline, or at the very least holding his head down with a towel shielding us from seeing the tears.
Someone will go up big early, there will be a comeback, then Michigan will pull away at the end.
I think the defenses will actually do better than most people think. I give the edge to Michigan with the better running game, and ability to sustain longer drives.
I think RR opens up the playbook on old front butt and we hammer on them for 60 minutes. Our D won't stop them but our time of posession will limit them. Final 56-28 UM. Monday, when the rankings come out we have a number to the left of our name for the first time since 2007, and lastly the allegations against RR are all put to bed as absolute lies and are taken as nothing more than sour grapes from fatties like Boren.
Hey, this is my story I'll tell it anyway I want to. GO BLUE!!!!
Michigan 31 ND 21. Minor has a big game.
Michigan will gash ND's suspect run defense for large chunks of yards. If Minor plays (and it looks like he will, plz God thx) he and Brown should be able to do some nice damage. Clausen hits a long one but is also harassed and sacked several times, and BG alss gets to him a few times right at release to give M a dead-duck interception. Tate and Denard manage the ball and break off a few long gains (pass/run).
They burn us once or twice, maybe get a penalty-aided drive; but I think we're more consistent driving it and field position wins for us; Jimmy can't get as lucky as last week again (when his wr's had superglue on their hands (they're not at home this time).
so much that my rational brain cannot function enough to make a fair prediction.
M - 21
ND - 14
60/40 M wins it
ND 34-27. Man I hope I'm wrong but we're still a year away.
Funny thing is: I'm not all that concerned with the victory as much as the game being indicative of how we'll play this season. I wasn't expecting to be 4-0 headed into East Lansing and I would be satisfied with 3-1. But this Saturday I'm hungry to see a team that can win 4 games in the Big 10.
I fear ND's passing
I actually have a good feeling about this game, but in the past my good feelings usually aren't a good sign.
Not that I disagree with you that Notre Dame could win, but what about your meh defense makes you think that ND will win by two touchdowns and hold Michigan to just 20 points? A terrible rushing team rushed unterribly against you last week, Michigan should have no probalem running the football. I think you are vastly overrating the Notre Dame secondary and underrating the kind of game that Michigan's offensive line is likely to have.
but the odds are decent that we lose the turnover battle. that could certainly lead to such a margin.
Well I guess I will start from the beginning of your post,
#1. I don't believe it is a "meh defense"
#2. Against a terrible rushing team?, who was actually the third best in the country last year, returned each of its 3, 1,000 yard rushers
#3. See #2 and add in the shutout,
#4. See #3 and add in that they averaged over 37 points per game last year, (top 10 in all D1)
#5 See #3 again
So I ask you why do you think that UM will score more than 20 points against a Defense who won't be begging for oxygen at the end of the first drive their on the field for, will bring continuous pressure up front against 2 true freshman QBs, 2 QBs who didn't go through all their reads on passing plays, and 2 QBs that have at best a 50% chance to throw to the teams #1 receiver (not to mention that it will be against our deepest position on the field)?
I was going to write a lengthy response, but it's probably not worth it so close to game time. Just know that I disagree, and good luck. We'll see who's crazy in a few hours
Weise has a bucket of KFC near him at all time. This shall be a great game and im looking forward to it. (35-28) Michigan wins it!!! Yes its great to be a Michigan Wolverine!!!!!!
for Michigan. 42-27