I'd say 9th just because they're going to want us in the top 10 for the first weekend matchup.
this may be of some local interest
AP 10, Coaches 13
AP 1, Coaches 12
I'll never forgive the coaches poll for 1997.
Agreed. We got the shaft.
let's not blame all the coaches for fulmer's butthurt ballot
Fulmer (if he was the guy who voted us 4th) alone did not cost us the vote. Even if he'd voted us second, we still would have lost the vote (just by two points instead of four). Nebraska got 32 first-place votes to our 30. Many coaches who had us #1 going into the bowls switched us to #2 (and in one case, #4).
We'll be 9th or 10th in one of them and 10th or 11th in the other.
8th in the Coaches Poll and 9th in the AP poll.
I'm going with 8th in one and 12th in the other.
6 in one half a dozen in the other. Whats the difference.
Polls don't matter. The goal is to win the B1G Championship.
This Is Michigan.
Actually they do. If you don't start out highly, it's much harder to finish highly. If you start out in the top 10, you can drop a game and stay ranked. If you're only in the 15-20 range, you'll drop out with a loss.
Unless you win all your games that is....
See Michigan football circa 1997 for reference.
They are all that matters to be in the national championship game.
I'm going with somewhere around six or seven.
Bama 1st, Michigan 2nd. It'll increase the # of viewers. $$$$$
Michigan 1st, Bama 2nd
Still increases the number of viewers, and why not fergodsakes
9th in AP, 8th in Coaches
8th in AP, 10th in Coaches.
And Top 10 in hoops, too. Been a while, hasn't it?
Does anybody actually think we deserve a preseason top ten ranking? I just don't see how we should be ranked that high since we have such a difficult schedule and we have some questions on defense. Thoughts?
Strength of schedule shouldn't really have anything to do with preseason rankings. With that said I think we deserve to be right around 10 seeing as we are coming off a BCS bowl win with a good number of returning starters and a coaching staff going into it's 2nd year.
Unfortunately, I think many of the "experts" predict how they think teams will end up, as opposed to ranking the teams based on perceived preseason ability. At the end of the season, the experts want to be able to point out to their colleagues and to fans that they predicted the end result. Hence, why they factor in schedule sometimes in their just-for-fun preseason rankings.
an first team All-American center, an honorable mention All-Conference receiver, TE and DE, and a second team All-Conference DT. Among the top tenish teams, that's not really that bad.
We return an All-American QB, an elite LT, a thousand yard rusher, and are moving a dude who's 6'4 with a 4.5 40 to WR. On defense we return eight starters from a top ten scoring defense, with a former five star expected to step in at the most important lost position.
We might end up being nowhere near the top ten by the end of the season, but there's a lot of reason for optimism at this point, IMO.
We came off a 2 loss season, bcs victory, have a heisman contending quarterback, and a majority of our offense and defense coming back. Yes, I think it's fair to rank us in the top 10 pre-season
11th in both polls.
It's this thing called ratings and readership and page views and money. I think that's about it.
Just about right for me.
8th in Coaches, 10th in AP.
Got Coaches poll correct....wonder if I can get AP right?
Can't start new thread.
I find it funny how Bryan Fischer made the following statement:
"Fence builder: Ohio State, with seven commitments from the state of Ohio".
When we have more Ohio commitments than they do, by 2.
Brian has the link posted below on the side bar labeled "Halfway to Signing Day: Big Ten Edition".
9th AP, 11th Coaches
Seems like the AP always wants to give us a break while the coaches are always behind the curve if we do post a good record.
It's not where you start it's where you finish
The best. Both polls.
I will go with 8th in the Coaches' Poll, 11th in the AP Poll.
Even though we lost some vital pieces (Martin, Molk, Van Bergen and Koger stand out on this list), we return many others (a shade over a dozen starters, if I am not mistaken), and they are going into a second year in this system with players with great upside potential coming up behind them at several positions. There's a good reason for optimism regarding our preseason ranking.
AP - 9
Coaches - 14
Thats my guess.
I see us inside the top 10, but it'd be too high in my opinion. Simply too many questions on the defensive line, most likely will have an unproven RB starting for the first week or so, and while the offensive line will be fine, there's no depth behind the starters.
I see Team 133 being a much better team in terms of grasping the play book and being more fundamentally sound, but with an overall worse record, maybe 8-4 or 9-3.
Anywhere from 7-10 for AP and Anywhere from 10-15 for coaches. AP will want yoou ranked high for the Bama game.
AP - Leaders.
Coaches - Best.
But actually I'd go with 8/10
Ask us again when the season is over.
Any guess when the real polls will be released?
Any guess when the real polls will be released?
AP - #1
Coaches - #1
You aint first you're last
You could be second, you could be third, you could be fourth, hell, you could even be fifth.
On a serious note...
AP - 11th
Coaches - 9th
Abby Lee Miller's rule: Second place is the First Loser.
7 +/- in both polls.
13 in AP The kicker will be ND will be ranked higher in the AP poll.
7th in the AP.
8th in the Coaches.
Ask THE KNOWLEDGE.
Is there a reason (other than the final 1997 vote) that almost everyone expects us to be lower in the coaches' poll than in the AP?
Maybe they have no interest in hyping up our game with Alabama whereas the AP may, plus perhaps name recognition means less to them... Purely guesses.
Yep. The AP poll has a built in bias to make sure two highly ranked teams are playing in Dallas. That equals more fan interest and more hits, clicks, listeners, viewers, etc.
#8/#13 in AP and Coaches.
I know preseason polls are arbitrary but I'm just glad to be ranked. The last time we were ranked in a preseason poll was #24 in 2008 Coaches.
7th in both polls.
I'd say 10th and 12th respectively.