We have 5 spots and only 4 "high profile" guys on the board
fair point that
We have 5 spots and only 4 "high profile" guys on the board
Some players just fall under the radar. Not the same position, Dion Lewis had offers from just Tulane, and I think Miam (NTM) before Pitt offered him, and he turned into a RB with heisman hype. Not the same sport, but Novak had NO offers for BB. Who knows. Maybe they found a diamon in the rough.
My guess is that they know who's going Blue and who isn't, and figured Willis is a guy with a decent ceiling they could turn into a player. The think I always forget about football recruiting is that you sometimes just need kids who'll be around for 5 years, fill in the gaps where needed, and be better as seniors than they are freshmen. Henninger is a great example on the defensive line - he'll never sniff the NFL or be an AA, but he's a good system guy who can help the team win. If you can turn 3* kids into starters at the end, that's a win.
Is it Willie Henry or Willis?
Tyler Orlosky because he is a teammate of Sam Grant and Kyle Kalis plus we need a Center and a Guard.
If Brian is to be believed, the guy is a D-lineman...and Orlosky is a guard.
Do people really give a shit what the kids Rivals ranking is if Hoke and Mattison like him? *** Frank Clark came from the same HS last year and was pretty damn impressive for a freshman. We should bank a schollie because a kid the coaches like doesn't have a high enough Rivals rating? Completely ludicrous
I'm all for taking this kid but I love how you just ignore the possibility that the coaches themselves are conflicted about taking this kid. I'm sure you would agree that the coaches must struggle with some offer decisions. I'm not saying that's the case here although frankly it seems likely given that they waited until now apparently to really get after him.
I was hoping someone would say that. I have come to trust what this coaching staff is doing. If they like him I love him.
please tell me his last name is harrison
No, but for what it's worth my three week old son's first and middle name is William Harrison. I'm trying to convince my wife that we should call him Tippecanoe as a nickname, but that's not flying so far.
Congrats on the new baby. Enjoy every second you get with him.
NO POLITICS ON THE BOARD!!!!!1!!1!!!!
He shows some good speed running down plays. Glenville plays some real competition too.
I also just get a big rise out of getting anyone from glenville now...
Frank Clark didnt end up being too bad for us this year, either..
We ALL should get a rise about taking any live, moving, body with football potential from Glenville. Making in-roads with the coaches and younger players at one of the best player producing high schools in the country is never a bad thing, especially when that HS is a pipeline straight to the shoe. I think Hoke and Mattison have already shown about how much they value the star ratings of recruiting services, you know, like by producing a solid defensive product with such lowly 3*'s such as the aforementioned Clark, Jake Ryan, or Desmond Morgan (all of whom made a significant inpact as freshman). If they say Henry deserves a spot on our defense, and he's at a position of need, and it helps us potentially swing some of his buddies our way, and away from Ohio, in 2013 or beyond, I fail to see a reason why we should complain about signing him (if and when).
only the 38th ranked DT? You say that like its a bad thing.
Right, also note scout has him as the #38 player in ohio, ahead of grant and ringer.
That kid was the 78th ranked DT his senior year, and a TWO STAR! 6'3, 245 .. v .. 6'3, 280 ... so this kid is already huge.
I'm curious how he did againt Kalis when Glenville played them...
He did well in that game, but it wasn't against Kalis. Kalis was out with injury at that time.
Getting a pipeline to Glenville is what we want...
His tape is great... especially when he is on offense and is pacing the wr on a block. wow, can this guy run!!!!!! me like. I'd expect that he didnt do the camp circuits, and thus no 4th star.
Any defensive line recruit that Greg Mattison and Brady Hoke are interested in is a kid I am giving a chance to. I don't care if he had no stars.
Agree whole "hartetly"
Do you know why he is a 3 star and not huge interest from top schools? The kids film looks very good. Must be a high 3 star then. for guys that study more tape, it seems to me he should have gotten more offers. Was it a camp thing?
His ESPN scouting report was so harsh, but most of it seemed correctable things with our coaching staff. I think he could develop to be a quality player.
Wasn't Jerel Worthy a 3*? We may hate the guy, but he's got skill.
I hate him, but the guy is legit.
You have to give our coaches the benefit of the doubt on this one, given they're a bunch of DL coaches and this is a DL kid.
Listen guys, MSU has made a living under Dantonio with under-the-radar type 3* from Ohio over the past few years. I wouldn't fret too much over this. Obviously Hoke and the staff didn't like what they saw with DOB and Schutt and see something good with this young man. I have no problem with Hoke taking this kid on board and seeing what Mattison and Montgomery can do with him.
i hope he goes blue. i have confidence in the coaching staff to make em better. we can all hate on msu and dantonio. but they have beat us 4 in a row with lesser rated recruiting classes. but a lot of that had to do with our pervious coach. in hoke i trust!
He's apparently a true DT which we could use, he's a Glenville guy, and this late in the game it seems he's interested in coming here. I say come on down!
I'm not a big bank the scholarships type guy anyway.
on defense, in Mattison we trust.
We passed on other DTs because Wormley will eventually play there. Godin might as well.
is the 6'6 or 7" that he is listed as I don't want him at DT. Can you image the nightmare of trying to stay low at that height? I'd prefer Godin inside instead.
Towards the end, was he the fullback barreling down the field for 40 yards? If so, I'm on board. He doesn't look like he has a lot of bad weigh, plus he has a good frame. He should easily get up to 290 lb. Pretty good athlete for that size, solid instints, plays hard. His technique is a little rough, but our three DL coaches will fix that. Hope we offer.
that was him..and that was what was so impressive... he was PACING the wr....it was queer to see a 270lb player running with the wr to block.
can you imagine, if we recruit him as a FULLBACK???? sweet jesus....
Did you really just use "queer" to describe something odd? Are you sitting on your davenport? Do you make long distance phone calls? Is your beer stored in the icebox?
My dad would be my D coordinator he's the man and played D under Bo.
My offensive coordinator would be Borges cuz I have not contradicted his play calling this year.
as well. What is this guy talking about??
Steve in PA is right. Not sure how this got into this thread that's my bad
Stars don't mean nothing. I look more at who has offered. His best offers as of now are Pitt, UC and Syracuse. I don't think UM has even offered him yet. They may be waiting to see what happens with the other recruits as 3 could announce by end of tomorrow. If they do offer and he accepts I have total faith that Hoke and Mattison know what they are doing.
Seems like a kid comes on an official visit the weekend before signing day foreshadows an offer on the trip. You have to be invited to visit officially.