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February 3rd, 2013 at 1:05 AM | You seem to be leaving out (Score:5 Normal)
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You seem to be leaving out the 8 assists he had which is pretty damn good considering how stauskas and GRIII played.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:31 AM | He played better than (Score:4 Normal)
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He played better than Stauskas or GR3, but he took too many shots. He was our main source of scoring for this game and made some key plays for us that can't be overlooked.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:35 AM | If you shot the ball 24 (Score:2 Normal)
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If you shoot the ball 24 times, you're going to be your teams main source of scoring.  Unfortunately for us, he only made 9 of them.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:37 AM | Nobody else was doing (Score:2 Normal)
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Nobody else was doing anything so what did you expect him to do? If the other guys aren't doing their part somebody has to keep us in the game. Without him we get blown out.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:39 AM | You are right.  Without him (Score:0 Normal)
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You are right.  Without him we get blown out.  With him playing unselfish basketball, we might win the game.   

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February 3rd, 2013 at 2:06 AM | I don't mind Burke shooting a (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't mind Burke shooting a lot, but I dislike seeing him completely monopolize the ball on a possession and then shoot a contested three.  That happened too often tonight.  

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February 3rd, 2013 at 9:21 AM | Burke (Score:1)
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Took a few bad shots but without him, we get buried. Our problem continues to be defensively. Another team shoots too high of a percentage. We are average at best defensively, you can't be average on defense and win on the road. We cannot give up 20 points in the first 4 minutes and continually rotate too slow and close out poorly.

Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:55 AM | A few points (Score:4 Normal)
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Agree that Burke is great when he lets the game come to him, and while he had a game high in points, he was around 30% shooting because he kept forcing the issue.  In the two biggest games on the road, he has really gone away from looking to create opportunities for the team and has forced bad possessions, I mean at one point trying to force a drive against 3 players on a pick and roll just made no sense.

Several comments on the leadership from Hardaway and Burke  which they do provide to a certain point, but they also seem to be two of the players that will press to hard at times as well.  

Robinson has been very good, but they need to get him into some situations where he can create and make some plays.  He is the most athletic player on the team, and seems to only be out there to get out on the break and try to go for offensive rebounds.  He needs to use his abilities to get to the basket more often.  I just do not see a top 10-15 player in the draft at this point unless he can start making that transition and creating some additional shots off the dribble, etc.

They also need to work a bit more on getting ball movement vs. relying on the pick and roll for the majority of the possessions, IU had multiple open shots in the beginning of the game with wide open looks due to the extra pass.  

Another area is pressure on defense could be brought up a few notches.  I thought that Lavert should have gotten a few more minutes for either Stauskus or Robinson as he appears to try to defend with some urgency and attack the basket more often.

Still a long ways to go, but both this game and the OSU game were within reach with a bit more control from Burke.  He needs to trust his team to make things happen through his creating open shots with his ability to drive and create vs. trying to take over.

  "You're gonna eat lightning, and you're gonna crap thunder!"

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:26 AM | Can't get down by 15 early (Score:1)
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Can't get down by 15 early.  Came back but no need to play that game again.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:26 AM | My limited impression is that (Score:5 Normal)
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My limited impression is that Michigan has had trouble playing its best style of team basketball in tight situations on the road. That is, against Indiana and Ohio State after closing to a tie. Of course, the road is a hard place to play.

Here's the thing about GRIII: People talk about how he's "physically ready" for the NBA. Scouts talk about him. He's good, an asset to the team... but if he goes pro the closest analogy I can think of is Marvin Williams.

Of course, if we win a title like Williams did, I don't care. GRIII is a fabulous player, but he's raw and could really use another year here. NBA players don't go 0-fer in the biggest game of the year.

Servant. Pastor. Husband. Michigan fan in Duluth. 

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:27 AM | Thoughts? (Score:5 Normal)
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I think we definitely shouldnt fill Oladipo's twitter mentions with links to Meatspin. Definitely shouldnt do it...

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:27 AM | It's already been said but (Score:2)
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It's already been said but Oladipo's dunk was classless...FWIW Tom Crean's reaction as he was going in for a handshake and heard the dunk was a head turn with an expression that said "What the fuck are you doing." 

 

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:41 AM | Too bad Crean turned around (Score:2)
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Too bad Crean turned around to be a giant douche himself by quoting Bo after beating Michigan.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 10:14 AM | Agreed (Score:1)
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This was tasteless and a shot in my opinion, not a casual or uncalculated move. He is a dick and I hope we rattle their fucking molars when they come to A2

"We want the Big 10 championship. And we’re going to win it as a TEAM"

 

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February 3rd, 2013 at 1:10 AM | Looked to me like he was (Score:2)
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Looked to me like he was trying to shake the refs hand and got brushed off.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:27 AM | Obviously upset. I felt like (Score:1 Normal)
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Obviously upset. I felt like Burke was forced into the position of doing everything. I don't know, it just seemed like the world was on his shoulders. We'll get em at home.

To Hell with Notre Dame

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:28 AM | I think Burke forced himself (Score:-1 Trolling)
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I think Burke forced himself into that position.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:30 AM | I do not agree (Score:2 Normal)
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I do not agree

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:34 AM | So what do you think?  Did (Score:-1 Trolling)
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So what do you think?  Did God make him circle around high ball screens until the shot clock ran down to 5 and take a contested step back 18-footer?

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:40 AM | No, (Score:5 Normal)
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Watching Nik miss everything all first half and GR3 all game long did. That, couple with no back to the basket type post player (or philosophy) is going to force your PG into that position.

No matter what happens.....They're still gonna run out and touch that banner.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:27 AM | Quick question since I didn't (Score:1)
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Quick question since I didn't watch the whole game: Did Morgan play and, if he did, was he hurt again? I hope not, because we need him down the stretch.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:28 AM | He tried to give it a go. (Score:1)
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He tried to give it a go. Got in for maybe 2 minutes and then didn't play again.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:28 AM | He played for about 2 minutes (Score:2 Normal)
michigan24
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He played for about 2 minutes in the first half and then came out.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:29 AM | He played  a couple of (Score:2)
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He played  a couple of minutes in the first half...but didn't start...he was going to be limited.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:28 AM | Our Freshman... (Score:1 Overrated)
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grew up tonight. We needed to get off to a strong start (didn't), limit Oladipo from taking over the game in spurts (nope) and keep Zeller off of the offensive boards (nada).

Those were the keys to the game. Most important thing now- beat Ohio.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:48 AM | Freshmen grew up (Score:5 Normal)
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Blah blah blah. Everyone said that after the ohio loss and they were just as unpoised tonight. Indiana was just a better team.

"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:27 AM | F*@$ING F*%@ERS MOTHER F*@$@ (Score:1 Normal)
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F*@$ING F*%@ERS MOTHER F*@$@ DAM@$T!

That is all.

Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:27 AM | Oladipo deserves to get (Score:4 Normal)
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Oladipo deserves to get hammered by someone next time we play them

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:27 AM | I'm not overly disappointed. (Score:1)
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I'm not overly disappointed. It's so hard to win on the road in the B1G, especially at Assembly Hall. Burke and McGary played extremely well, but GRIII was nowhere to be found. A little upset about that, but he's a freshman. It happens.



We shouldn't drop any lower than 2-3, and we'll be fine as long as we don't go out and lay another egg against OSU on Tuesday. Being back in front of the home crowd against your biggest rival that gave you your first loss of the season may be exactly what this team needs to get back on track. They should come out angry and fired up, ready to make a statement. We can count on Crisler being a madhouse come 9pm Tuesday night.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:31 AM | @&$@$@!! (Score:1)
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I hate losing to those bastards down there. I have so much angst piled up. Fergodsake I was 15 the last time M won a game in that he'll hole. Creen looks like he should be in Sam Bernstein commercials.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:45 AM | So you are 19 now? (Score:4 Normal)
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UM won there in 2008-2009. Massive comeback capped by a Laval-Lucas Perry three if I recall correctly.

No matter what happens.....They're still gonna run out and touch that banner.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:59 AM | Weren't we down 20 at (Score:2)
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Weren't we down 20 at halftime?

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:27 AM | Also, I think having Morgan (Score:1)
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Also, I think having Morgan out hurt us a little more than I expected, although our bigs played decently.  Still, I think Morgan could have done better defensively against Zeller.

Streaming UM games early Sunday morning from Korea, since 2007

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:28 AM | I screamed so much I have to (Score:4 Funny)
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I screamed so much I have to sleep on the couch. Wife not happy. I need a life.

Who is Jon Falk?
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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:29 AM | No excuses. She needs to (Score:5 Normal)
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No excuses. She needs to understand!

"Welllllllll..."

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:30 AM | She would but I really lost (Score:2 Normal)
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She would but I really lost it on the and 1 call.

Who is Jon Falk?
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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:33 AM | I got yelled at too, and am (Score:5 Funny)
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I got yelled at too, and am also in the doghouse.

I'll tuck you in.

 

M'Dog

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:29 AM | Jordan Morgan (Score:5 Normal)
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I think some Michigan fans need to quit getting on J-Mo's case. He is a key player to both the offense and defense. He contributes a ton to the squad but it doesnt show up on his stat line. His positioning and box outs on defense help other guys (Hardaway) swoop in to grab boards. On O he knows where to be and when to set picks. McGary and Horford are flashier players but Jordan is the glue guy.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:29 AM | damn...we need to learn to (Score:1)
Michiganfootball13
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Joined: 04/12/2012
MGoPoints: 186

damn...we need to learn to stop being "star struck" at the beginning of big games on the road. No reason to panic but something that must be done with such a young team.

Lloyd Brady is my homeboy...for real he is!

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:29 AM | We'll take care of ,  and (Score:2)
Frito Bandito
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Joined: 03/02/2012
MGoPoints: 909

We'll take care of ,  and next time in AA.

Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:29 AM | We'll get 'em at home. (Score:1)
Half Blood Dutc...
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Joined: 12/03/2011
MGoPoints: 353

Toughest game on the schedule

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:31 AM | The Ohio State game is (Score:5 Normal)
stephenrjking
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Joined: 03/15/2012
MGoPoints: 1296

The Ohio State game is arguably more important for the B1G title and a #1 seed. No shame in losing to Indiana in Bloomington, but a loss to OSU at home would seriously dent both of those goals. How the team responds to tonight's loss will tell us quite a bit about them, moreso than against the cupcakes they played after the OSU loss. 

This is the stretch that is tournament prep; hard games against hard teams. Consistency over the next two weeks is key.

Servant. Pastor. Husband. Michigan fan in Duluth. 

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:35 AM | Glad to have another calm and (Score:2 Normal)
B-Nut-GoBlue
Joined: 09/30/2011
MGoPoints: 1680

Glad to have another calm and collective mind around here.  I don't mean that as a shot at most others around here, I'm not particularly taking this loss too well at the moment either.  Life goes on and so does the College B-ball season and we all need to realize that.  This was a loss from the get go and Tuesday night is a "should-be-win", in some ways more important than tonight's loss.  Go Blue.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:31 AM | The thing I like best about (Score:3 Normal)
M-Dog
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Joined: 07/06/2008
MGoPoints: 6366

The thing I like best about college football is that every game matters.  You only get one shot. You lose a big game and you are most likely out of contention for the National Championship for the year.

Um, never mind.  Heh, heh.

 

M'Dog

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:32 AM | I think this is a top 5 top (Score:2)
no joke its hoke
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Joined: 01/13/2011
MGoPoints: 2222

I think this is a top 5 top that can beat anyone. its only the 2nd loss and doesn't hurt that bad. regroup and beat Ohio. everything is still there for the taking. calm down everything is fine.

Vice.com

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:32 AM | Basically seemed like they started hot (Score:1)
maizeonblueaction
Joined: 12/19/2011
MGoPoints: 224

and we did not. If you let a margin get away early, it's hard to make up late, and their inside presence was more productive in terms of points (though the low foul calls on IU is suspicious).

So it goes.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:33 AM | the most frustrating part was (Score:1 Normal)
pessiMICHtic
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Joined: 10/24/2012
MGoPoints: 440

the most frustrating part was actually when we tied it up. Tie it up and then...give up 11 straight? Have to be better.

3-3-5 til the day I die y'all

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:33 AM | I do think that with Morgan (Score:2 Normal)
Go.Blue.Hail
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Joined: 11/19/2012
MGoPoints: 453

I do think that with Morgan in Zeller wouldn't have had so many putbacks.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:34 AM | If it's (Score:-1 Flamebait)
Hokemaniac24
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Joined: 09/02/2012
MGoPoints: 441

going to be the Trey Burke show, he at least has to show up.

2013 will be the year.

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February 3rd, 2013 at 12:41 AM | You've got to be kidding. (Score:3 Normal)
Blue2000
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Joined: 01/06/2009
MGoPoints: 2649

You've got to be kidding.

"Come on, you Wolverines!"

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