The refs are giving ND this game. Wow
Post Game Celebration/Late Games Open Thread
Well, they literally just did. That was a touchdown
Yeah, ND must be paying off officials. The end of the game was one of the worst I've seen. Just terrible.
Two (TWO!) refs were right over that play, and neither called it a TD. Bull Dookie.
Count 'em, four gifts in the last two minutes, including the refusal to overturn the non-touchdown ruling at the end.
Pretty poor, and pretty cowardly; however, Stanford gave their own gifts on ND's last drive.
usually I'd be buzzed/drunk and getting rowdy at this point, but the girlfriends parents are in town so I'm sitting on the couch sober and will be going out to a nice dinner later. After which, of course, I will get drunk and have a real wool lime.
Are you going to Home Depot to pick out some wallpaper? Maybe you'll hit Bed Bath and Beyond?? I doubt you'll have enough time.
Give me that thing, I'll just do one.
Ask Eddie Money..
Watching ND-Stanford then Tigers whipping Yanks.
WVU welcome to defense.
Zooker is the most popular guy in Champaign.
Herbie picking Purdue HAHAHAHA!
eleven Tech drives:
- 1 fumble
- 1 interception
- 1 missed field goal
- 1 punt
- 7 touchdowns
Good think WVU won the turnover battle or this game might have been a blowout.
It would be fun to watch ND walk off the field crying this evening.
Yes, but the more they win the more our losses look respectable.
Yes, either way tonight will be a win-win for me.
Rees sacked in OT. Keep it up Stanford.
So when do we start IlliniQuest?
Woo gets the t shirt for guessing the right score ??? I was off by 3 points for Mich And 16 for then lol
Is Gibson moonlighting at Stanford or something?
Wow. ND recievers making Rees look good. He chucked one up to avoid another sack that got brought in, then threw the ball behind his man for a TD.
More like Stanford defensive coverage making Rees look good. Should have played the ball on the PI call, on the Riddick 3rd down catch and Jones was wide open on the TD
Did anyone catch any of the WVU game today? What happened to them?
They played their typical defense and their offense didn't show up against a good defense.
WVU is not good. They struggled to put away Baylor, and allowed 31 points to Marshall. The only reason they were rated as high as they were is because they scored a bunch on Texas, but Texas does not have a good defense. People want to believe they do because they're Texas, but they don't.
I wouldn't mind if ND won out. It's about whatever's best for us in these type of situations. As long as Bama keeps destroying people and ND wins with that schedule, we look very good as long as we take care of business on our end.
ND losing a game or three won't hurt our schedule too bad. ND has a tough schedule. And I don't want them in the NCG
We clearly aren't the best in the nation, 'bama showed us that. So all that matters is being best in the Big Ten, and that has nothing to do with ND. Additionally, this year big ten wins are less impressive to pollsters. If this was bball and we cared about making the tourney, I would agree with you. But in football, I don't think ND"s success matters.
And I don't like them.
That's what I'm talking about. Who likes ND? But its not about that. All personal feelings aside, those are two good losses that will help us out down the road if we go undefeated the rest of the way. It is what it is if you like them or not.
ND is one of our biggest recruiting rivals, so them doing well is not good for us, IMO.
Can BK stop the QB charade finally? I know Golson gives them more flexibility and causes the D to prepare differently, but every game they bring in Rees to close the deal. I'm not crazy about Rees either but why not just give him the job? I know the ND fans hate him but they'd have quite the different record without him.
Golson left with an injury. Rees came in and has played the rest of the game.
True but he either leaves with injury or is replaced by Rees every game. Before the season started I thought they'd be crazy to start Rees, but their offense has been stagnant with Golson and moves the ball decent with Rees. I know it's situational too (2 minute drills vs regular game/offense) but I feel like it'd be worth a shot. Allow their offense to have some consistency.
here is a stat for you, the only thing in common with that 67-65 game two years ago, is M scored 45 points in regulation.
I love a great defensive squad
CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck you, Notre Dame!
Don't you mean, f you, officials and replay officals? That was clearly a TD for Stanford. Complete and utter bullsh*t officiating.
Notre Dame should consider forgoing the rest of their home games this season. Three games, three nail biters. Away from South Bend they have been blowing people out.
That's a touchdown
You never like to see ND people happy, but one always can appreciate a good goal line stand, especially with so much on the line.
That's a TD. The ball def broke the plane. But prob won't be overturned.
That was a TD. Man Notre Dame are serious pretenders.
How'd you come to that conclusion after this game?
Hell of a stand by the ND defense there.
be a TD. I may have spoken too soon.
Ball's in the endzone for a touchdown.
But Notre Dame rules are in effect.
Looked like a TD to me. But yet again, why the fuck is there no camera on the goal line?
This comes up every week. I ask the same question every time. So simple.
It's honestly a solution a kindergartner could come up with.
Referees are absolutely handing this game to Notre Dame. Typical nepotistic garbage. I am about to hit my television to silence these annoying announcers. I am sure they will find this not to be a touchdown. What a load of garbage.
That's a touchdown
Even the announcers are conceding it was a touchdown
Man that's BS call. I really hope USC kicks ND in the throat.
Wow Stanford just got robbed of a chance to tie.
Refs wussed out because they feared the old men in the stands.
Another gift for a fraud Notre Dame team
Oh well, makes us look better I guess.
Son of a bitch!!!!! This is what Notre Dame was like under Holtz. Close games always going their way and helped by a questionable call.
Wooooooooooooooow. How they didn't call that a TD after review is beyond me.
THIS IS HORSESHIT! I HATE NOTRE DAME. NO OTHER TEAM IN THE COUNTRY WOULD GET SUCH A CRAP CALL. WHEN ARE THE OFFICIALS GETTING THEIR CHECKS FROM THE NOTRE DAME BOOSTERS!?
Like the Bush Push, right?
I like how you remembered to put your name in lowercase, with a tilde.
Man, I forgot how much I love a good defense. Now if we can just shut down Bell.
If they don't get the call correct?
Even if he fumbled, the Stanford guy clearly secured the ball in the end zone!
That rule doesn't apply in South Bend unless it helps out Notre Dame.
I am so mad I'm shaking about the ND game. They were GIVEN that game.
Quite the overreaction.
Big Game Bob is going to take Notre Dame to the woodshed in Norman.
I am piss drunk and I cannot believe that they scored TWICE on that final drive. complete. bullshit.
Stanford got a shafting from the refs on that last play. Complete bullshit!
Not sure why I flipped to ESPN, but I'm regretting it.
last week they put one of those smart mics on Holtz and it turned itself off. So ESPN isn't always all bad.
Oklahoma is going to kick the shit out the Irish.
Don't Stanford have a 6'8'' tight end. Come on coaches!
So I switch away from the god-awful Tom Hammonds and the NBC homers to ESPN...and there's Lou Holtz.
You can't win. You can't even break even.
Between the ND mafia and the OSU mafia (Herbie, Spielman, R. Smith, Galloway on the WWL and E. George on Fox...seriously, how the h*ll does OSU get so many people on TV?), it's almost impossible to watch college football analysis without feeling like throwing up.
Herbie is an OSU grad, but he is not anywhere near a homer and I will defend that tooth and nail. The dude moved out of Ohio because of the shit fans complaining about his anti-OSU picks, fergodsake!
The others, eh, they may or may not have received a degree from OSU. Either way, TV commentary is a better career than pizza delivery. You can't even criticize OSU as a pizza boy!
They're all communications majors down there.
I cry foul on the ND game! He was clearly in on the reach and the refs simply ignored it after the initial stop.
Yeah, because forward progress isn't a thing.
there wouldn't have been a review. The whistle would have stopped play.
Note also that the review allowed the call to stand, they did not confirm it. If the call had been forward progress there couldn't have been a situation where the ball was too close to the goal line to make a determination.
^ I don't think he's entirely helpful in determing what actually stops the play here, but he affirms that forward progress wasn't ruled, and then follows that up by saying the whistle blowing has no bearing on the play. If the whistle is blown how is progress not marked? How those are exclusive beats me.
Dude, are you closet ND fan or what?
Less of an ND "fan" more of a board goer who finds the extreme reactions to rivals' wins to be a bit ridiculous. We get it, you're not supposed to cheer for Michigan State or Notre Dame, but flooding the board with "These guys are frauds!" after games such as the Capital One Bowl earlier this year or Stanford today gets a bit old. It's silly if you can't just enjoy a good football game.
ND is 6-0***
***Given one game due to the refs
He rolled in, what the heck.... I never really cared for ND but I hate them now. I hope Oklahoma runs over them...
I guess replay official Tommy O'Flannagan didn't see it the way the replay showed.
Whatever. Notre Dame can still kiss my ass. Oklahoma and USC will pound them but those games aren't for a while. In the meantime, it will be constant national championship talk by the media for them led by Lou Holtz. Have your mute buttons ready.
...the OL did.
That's how I saw it.
Oklahoma already has done good this season by defeating Texas. They can extinguish another wrong this season.
Here's the one bad we can extract from today. WVA getting its ass kicked today only means Braxton has an easier chance to take the Heisman. At this rate, I'd still take Smith or Klein over Miller, but still, I might cry if Braxton Miller takes home the hardware.
When in Notre Dame's favor they use it to zoom in but when it is against them you never see it.
There are advantages to having your own network--of that there can be no doubt.
I don't think there is any chance that Braxton Miller, QB for OSU is going to win the Heisman this year. He's good, especially at running, but even with the loss Geno Smith's numbers will dwarf anything that Miller does.
and he hasn't played us yet
What I find interesting (frustrating) is that no one mentions that Miller almost lost that game against MSU with 3 TO's. OSU won but Miller did his [email protected] to try to lose that game with all of his miscues.
I guess as long as your team wins, it doesn't matter how many mistakes you make in a game.
ESPN College GameDay watch next week:
Kansas State v. WVU: would be surprised if they go here with the absolute trouncing in Lubbock.
South Carolina v. Florida: should be a CBS game, S. Car was featured last week.
Any other possibilities? Where will they go? If only MSU was halfway decent this year, would be pretty much a no brainer.
Gotta be Bama-Tennessee or SCar-Florida knowing those guys.
South Carolina/Florida is an important game--it'll decide which team gets to lose to Alabama in the SEC championship and which team gets to lose to them in the MNC.
I hate ND fans and I hope they lose the rest of their games, and I also want Woodson to be the only defensive player to win the Heisman (unless another Wolverine does it), but at this point I think Te'o should be the leader for it.
See also Ryan, Jake
That's right, I said it.
Keep it in the family. Only Michigan can have defensive Heisman winners. I like the way you think.
As to the call, if you watch the replay, the side judge was running toward the pile BEFORE the roll into the end zone. This, if I am not mistaken, indicates that he blew the whistle as he deemed that forward progress was stopped. But, the announcers said that if the whistle had blown, there would be no replay review. I am confused.
I think it was VERY close as to whether or not forward progress was, in fact, stopped, but NO QUESTION that he crossed the goal line with his second effort. Further, the ref's explanation was strangely shallow -- usually they say something about what happened.
Add this to the communications problems Michigan experienced, the whistles from the crowd, and it's quite clear to me that ND is so desperate to be "back" that they're willing to do pretty much anything to tip the balance in their favor.
My deep seeded hatred of Notre Dame is only growing.
I can't find the written rule to check this, but my understanding is that a decision by an official that a ball carrier is down by rule (player steps out of bounds, forward progress is stopped, knee is down) is not reviewable. They can review the spot in these situations but they cannot overturn the decision to blow the play dead.
So if the call on the field had been that forward progress was stopped, all they could review was the spot at which forward progress had been stopped. That was CLEARLY short of the goal line (had progress really been stopped, I mean), so the call would have been confirmed and not merely allowed to stand.
Worked with my friend on our Sterling Engine (cool project, btw. I recommend it.)
Discovered that the wife WANTED to do the cleaning today. Told me to stay put.
The Michigan Difference.
Now? Tigers postseason and LOTS OF WARSTEINER!
After? I'm thinkin things a gentleman doesn't speak of in public.
As I said... perfect Saturday.
What are you powering with the Stirling engine?
Curiosity. Later? We're going to size it up and use it to charge batteries for an electric bike, I believe. The current one is a midget model. Something like 1/16th HP. Runs on hot water. We're familiarizing ourselves with the process and function, before we invest too heavily.
Baylor-TCU has to play second fiddle to OkSt-KU.
I'm glad you updated it. I forgot that we're now one win away from 900.
Having #900 come over Dantonio's thug players (who will no doubt try to injure Denard) would be pretty sweet.
In an appropriately timed commercial relative to the "down with pink wristbands" thread yesterday, Fox sports just had a cheesy public service announcement for prostate cancer awareness during the USC game. Erin Andrews looks good. Joey Harrington still looks ready to throw an interception.
" believe he scored also, but you know certain things happen at certain places when you play games that are close."
Whatever could he possibly mean with that statement?! Shockingly enough, Lou doesn't think it was even close to a Stanford td.
the traditional thumbs-up is a lot more convincing when the medic doesn't have to lift your arm in the air so you can give it.
Hope he's ok.
Vandy...wow. Long TD called back on a hold, then on 3rd down in the red zone their QB ran backwards and lost 14 yards to set up a long field goal. Some teams, man. Naturally, the field goal was blocked. 11-7 Florida.
Anyone else more worried about next weeks game against MSU now that they lost? Not that it wasn't their Super Bowl already, but now that considering their season is on life support, they will absolutely pull out all the stops to make sure UMich doesn't win. Their season is over if they lose, and they know it.
Yes, I hear you. I just think they will be extra dirty. Injuries are my main concern.
Let them. If they get dirty just send Furman in to do to Maxwell what he did to the punt returner today. Or well Q-Wash to get dirty after he falls on Bell. Serousily though, if Denard helmet twist 2.0 happens, I want to see us return the favor.
The whole "this is their super bowl" thing really only applies to the fans.
Crappy teams don't just decide to be good one week.
ESPN was just highlighting some of LSU's recent struggles, most notably that the last 35 drives have led to one offensive TD and that they are 21% on 3rd-down conversions in conference play.
Surely some of the divots in the field are where Les has eaten spots into the turf to note where he would like receivers to be on routes.
Les refuses to hire someone like DeBord because he's uncomfortable with that kind of focus on offense.
Holy hell SC's unis are atrocious.
I think those are supposed to be the alternate "battle" uniforms that South Carolina had in mind for the LSU game this year, although they don't look a lot like the photo that I remember from the CBSSports.com piece. In any event, when I tuned into this game, I did not have have my glasses on and thought some of the Gamecocks were wearing olive rainboots (then of course, I put the glasses on and I realize that it is simply how some are wearing their socks), so that's what my first impression entailed.
I've only watched about 5 plays of Indiana's offense, but they already have three drops.
tOSU is looking pretty flat as well. I'm not really fearing either of them right now. That O-Line on tOSU only seems to really play once every three plays.
Early stages along the road to the eventual heat death of the universe.
Entropy, and thus "uninformativeness", must increase over time--thus the eventual state of the universe is one in which all commentating positions are held by OSU grads and former ND coaches.
may be the ugliest I have ever seen, they are hideous.
Vanderbilt has some fugly threads on as well.
Anybody know if the Texas player that was pulled off in a stretcher is OK?
Hoosiers block the punt!
LSU's offensive troubles continue, of course...
Two incomplete passes, a stunted attempt to just hurdle the Gamecock defensive line (best play of the drive really), and then an interception returned to about the 1 yard line.
Clearly, the Tigers are trying to innovate by going Sam McGuffie on defenses.
IU just blocked a punt in the red zone to Urban Meyer's dismay.
Touchdown! Hoosiers lead....for now.
Indiana 14 OSU 10 after IU got the ball on a blocked punt
Feeling Nebraska is going to struggle with northwestern seeing Ohio flail against Indiana
Even though their defense has been torched a couple times this season, I'm still very worried about us playing in Lincoln...at night.
We'll be ok if we can get a TD on one of the first two drives.
Who else is impressed with Indiana's front on D so far? Dominant's the right word I think
Holy late flag batman!
Good they picked it up.
Missed FG for Ohio.
Indiana making a game out of it. Lets hope they can hold on... All of you in Michigan will hear me cackle with glee down here in Tx if Indiana pulls this one out...
You know why Denard always smiles? It's because he's thinking about Ohio's back 7 trying to tackle him later this year.
If only Braxton Miller would tackle himself on more keepers like that, the world might be a better place...
....and the pass to Brown is ruled incomplete, and Ohio must punt it away. It might be some time before the finer elements of "Walrusball" are phased out of this offense.
Punt block, TD Ohio.
Just when Indiana was looking like they could make a game of it.
Terrible blocking. Nonexistent, really. I could have blocked that punt.
Frack. Well, knowing Indiana, that's probably all she wrote. Fun while it lasted though.
It annoyed people in Ohio. It was glorious while it lasted.
Another Indiana drop.
Arm punt for TD. Lucky.
If you have Concern Rays to spare Washington is only down 24-14 at the end of the 3rd against Southern Cal. Washington has shown defensive grit as of late in the game.
Huskies fumble on the goal line. Return to your regularly scheduled SEC showdowns.
Ref sets a pick for Braxton. Well, that's about it for the Hoosiers.
South Carolina returns a ball to about the LSU 20, only to have a personal foul bring it back to their 46 yard line. Steve Spurrier's visor looked scared for a moment, but alas he was not thrown.
In other news, Marcus Lattimore only averaging about 2.5 yards per carry right now, so Cunningham basically needed to make that catch to get them to the LSU 2.
of the qb "oh noes"?
I like it.
Hoosiers back within a touchdown.
Indiana just got jobbed. DB wasn't looking at the ball but didn't make contact until the ball arrived.
Anyone think Rod Smith is comparable/similar to Deveon Smith?
And now two weak calls for Ohio...
at Yankee Stadium, too; inneresting.
Ohio's defense is trash
Have to admit, there is violence on the o and d lines. Ouch!
First time since 1989 that Indiana has scored over 30 points on OSU.
OSU's defense is looking mediocre at best so far this year. I feel we will have no problem scoring on them but they may also score against us. Seems like a similar game as last years is coming on Nov. 24
Indiana scores with about a minute left and gets the 2 pt conversion. 52-49 now.
52-49 OSU. Enough time for another onside kick and lucky recovery. Even if the Hoosiers don't pull the upset I am thoroughly, thoroughly entertained.
Channel 10 Wall-to-wall Sports Columbus just lost it live on the air. Ha. Have fun with your full report in the morning.
52-49 is your final from Bloomington.
Most points ever scored by IU against OSU.
Didn't realize basketball season had already begun ...
Seems like the game is over.
That on-side kick recovery by IND was awsome, tho...
Ohio has some serious issues on their D.
I like our chances against them.
man that guy was lucky he recovered it...
I think we will put up quite a few points on Ohio. With they way our defense is playing, it might get ugly for them. They will not score near 49 on us.
Miss. State just put an exclamation point on this game with a TD, I would say, as there are only about seven minutes and some change left. Then again, going over the defensive stats of generally middling SEC teams would make one believe that seven minutes is an eternity. Indeed, Tennessee is already at the 17 and threatening in Miss. State territory.
Oy. The cowbell team.
Yeah, they can beat the Manning team. Fine by me.
On a day when we did what we're supposed to do to a shitty Big Ten team, it's nice to see staee and ohio choke against them. To ohio: may you have many more 100-point games against the Indianas of the world! We've moved on from that.
RR :: Michigan = Urban :: ohio.
Bigger steaming pile of shit...ohio's defense or valverde's pitching? go
Normally I'd go with Valverde, but Ohio has Zach Boren on D now. Which makes it a tie.
Also, Zach led them in tackles. LOL @ any team who has a fullback convert to LB in less than a week and he's leading your team in tackles.
Miss St goes for it on 4th and goal from the 7, receiver makes a one-handed grab in the endzone.