Post-game celebration needs to change.
LMFAO if there was a meme contest, you win
...Coach Hoke was emotionally charged up after the game. I don't see a problem with the celebration.
But he still went over to graciously shake hands.
Great laugh to start the day with. But seriously, let college kids be college kids.
This could have gone in the snowflakes thread.
yes, the team should have shaken hands with NW at midfield immediately after the game, but that was a dramatic comeback and a crucial win towards the goal of winning the division. These are also 18-22 year olds who tend towards the emotional in games like this one... let's not attempt to find fault in every situation.
now twice this morning?!?
...cause I don't want to read this crap either.
Half the team goes and celebrates with the students who helped them to victory, the other half shakes hands with the other team. The celebration with the students usually lasts 2-3 minutes per player. Do you not realize, that they jump into the stands and then get out to go greet the visiting team while other teammates jump into the stands?
As for posting this in the Sunday Snowflakes thread...
I thought about it. I really did. But I had an idea about what might happen; I was right. This one thread has double the number of posts, and 30 times the active +/- votes, than the entire Snowflake thread. And now, thanks to the "final play video" thread, viewers can see for themselves what I was talking about. Better, I think, and more usable for everybody, to have this one by itself.
For once, I agree with Section 1. Can't they shake hands then run to the student section?
But as for the rawk, yes I believe that it should be stopped before the other team goes into the huddle. BUT, the rawk selection yesterday was pretty good.
The rawk was alright, as long as we don't count OT. Playing Journey right before a 4th down in OT? Really Special K?
StraightDave does not owe you a steak dinner. He said he will BE a steak dinner. There is a difference. Once he morphs into a steak dinner, then you can eat him.
I think the team should shake hands first, then head over to the student section.
You realize this was a dramatic come from behind finish at home. Usually when this happens the away team tries to get the hell off the field as fast as possible.
Oh look Section 1 is being a concern troll again. Water is wet, etc.
Concern trolls are the best trolls.
I have to agree with Section 1. Handshakes come first.
If you measure sportsmanship by post game handshakes. It's in game play that maters
I would be upset with this after a 20 point win. However, with 18 seconds left this team was dead, the game was over, and everyone knew it. A dramatic come from behind win warrants this kind of reaction.
As CRex said, water is indeed wet.
They had their hearts ripped out in an OT loss and still were sportsman enough to go shake hands. I actually agree w/ Section1 on this.
And to those that noted Hoke was fired up: Yes he was, and he promptly went out and shook Fits' hand and seemingly said some nice words to him.
At least our coach didnt celebrate a late hit penalty like a teenage girl at a Bieber concert.
that was weird. I don't think I have ever seen a coach do that.
That being said, Michigan is getting a little carried away with hits close to the sideline. There were two or three that were not called that could have been and it seems to happen in about every game. They are not malicious and are certainly just a product of being aggressive and finishing plays, but that gets called a lot more now than it used to. They need to ease up on that or it is really going to start to cost them.
On a related note, it does not look like the refs think that Kovacs is capable of committing pass interference, and thank god, because he got away with about three of them. On the whole, the crew yesterday was uneven. The breaks went both ways but it was not a well called game.
Was this a tv thing? Was there a camera on Fitzgerald? Some replay? Because I've been watching Pat Fitzgerald since he was a Northwestern linebacker and that is just who he is. Emotional, emotive, yelling.
Fitzgerald had a much bigger and more dubious meltdown last year in Evanston when we (Kovacs, right?) ripped off his quarterback's helmet.
But Fitzgerald is no more emotional in working the refs than Bo was. And I sat directly behind him yesterday, and Fitzgerald was little different from a lot of college coaches.
I'm really curious now; are the people who are so focused on Fitzgerald people who watched the game on tv?
Maybe. Watch the replay of his antics after the late hit. Bo certainly never looked so foolish.
Okay, so what you are saying is that you did indeed watch the game on tv? That was my basic question. I am always interested in how a televised view of an even differs from an in-person view.
Yes, I'm doomed to watch almost all games on TV. Hence I have little idea as to how the postgame celebrations have been this year. But even from the little I've seen, it seems that they make for the student section immediately after the game is over.
The first time I noticed this was after the OSU game last year, but in those circumstances you could argue for a free pass. I remember we both bitched about it.
I was at the game and also noticed Pat's jumping around. At first I was just confused, and then I decided he was a dick. It certainly was not hard to see.
What's your point?
I wondered, "What the heck is any mention of Pat Fizgerald doing, in this thread that had nothing originally to do with him?"
But I got the point, sort of. Some people, who weren't at the game but who apparently saw a video highlight of a few scant seconds of Fitzgerald on Northwestern's sideline, wanted to somehow blow back against me and my thread, which they very inaccurately presupposed to be anti-Michigan, with something that was, uh, anti-Northwestern. I think that's about as far as you can go, in attempting to articulate that sort of low-level thinking. Hey, what about the bad behavior of the other guys?
So under the theory that a picture is worth a thousand words, and not wanting to waste a thousand words on this derivativie backwater of an argument, I thought I'd just post one of the several iconic photos of Bo Schembechler, the avatar of all that is Michigan tradition, in the act of one of his rare, Fitzgerald-like spasms of gesticulation when a call went against his team.
Honest to God, don't any of you guys know Pat Fitzgerald, one of the better young football coaches in college football? Did any of you see him play as a linebacker for Northwestern? Against Michigan? Any of you remember seeing Fitzgerald's Wildcats beat Michigan? He wants to win.
There. Is that better for you? There are only about ten million opposing fans who regarded Bo Schembechler as a "dick," in the parlance of our young friend above, for just the same reasons that Michigan message board members might say that about Pat Fitzgerald. Some of you kids need to get out more and see the rest of the world.
I just thought it was kind of goofy that he was jumping up and down with fists raised at a penalty call. No offense intended.
Section 1, Pat Fitz is a jackass. Any coach that says, "Go Cats..." or the like, after an interview, is a jackass. Bret B from Wisconsin says, "On Wisconsin..." after his interviews too. Could you imagine Hoke saying, "Go Blue..." after being interviewed? It's fucking lame, and Fitz is an overly emotional douche bag. He was good LB, and is a very good coach, but he's a douche bag. As to his response to the flag against Beyer, he looked like a fool. It is one thing to clap, or even to pump your fist, but the jackass jumped in the air a la Phil Mickelson after winning the Master. Not only did he do it once, but several times.
I realize that Bo gestulated, but Bo never did fairy jumps like that, and if he did jump in the air, it was ONLY in response to a play by his team, not to a flag. Fitz thought his team was going to win because of that flag, and I think that is why his team lost. Not because of Karma or something, but because he lost control of his emotions and got ahead of himself. Ever notice how Hoke remains calm and stoic in heat of battle. Well, the players feed of that. When the coach freaks out, the players freak out. Fitz is a clown, and I've lost all respect for him.
...we are discussing Pat Fitzgerald in a thread about Michigan's postgame celebration WHY, exactly?
Um, you sure have been discussing it at length. :)
Not to be that person, but Brady Hoke often does say "Go Blue" after being interviewed (not as much on the ones he's on every week).
I've listened to every Hoke interview that I can find, and I've NEVER once heard him say, "Go Blue..." after an interview. By contrast, EVERY time I see Fitz or Bielama do an interview, they say their schools tag line.
Of course, the TV focus exaggerated it, but Fitzgerald's reaction was weird and inappropriate. His QB was (allegedly) hit late. Coaches shouldn't cheer for that. It is like applauding when your baseball team's batter gets hit by a pitch in a tight game. It might help you, but at the moment you are either concerned about the guy or you are mad at the opponent.
I'm not judging Fitzgerald generally, but his actions at that point diminished his reputation a bit in my mind.
and he did look like a douche. Replace the clip board with a PBR and you could superimpose his antics into any frat house living room on Northwestern's campus (more likely a Heineken). Raising his hands triumphantly like he or his team actually did something on the play. Dildo-brains
The only thing that needs to change is that they need to put something up next to the student section for the players to jump up on. I'm just waiting for one to blowout a knee or ankle trying to get their cleats to grip on the 1.5" piece of granite to get themselves into the students.
Seriously. I was watching Big Will Campbell trying to jump up, struggling and almost falling. The entire time I was thinking, this is not going to end well.
But the loud music is just part of the home field advantage. I've seen it in many a non-EL stadium.
Edited to add:
Based on this video that someone took, there were Wolverines out there shaking hands. Not just Kovacs. Not all the players certainly, but there definitely were some. Some ran right to shake hands, some ran to celebrate and then shake hands.
I see your point and agree that it's not always the most sportsmanlike, but I think this only really happens when it's a theatrical win or on the last play -- OSU, MSU, this game, ND games past, the Illinois OT win -- those aren't normal, businesslike wins. Players had been fighting for 60+ minutes to earn that win up until the buzzer and emotion takes over during the celebration. I think it's acceptable in these situations and most opposing coaches and players would probably agree that they would reach the same way.
Did we do this against Air Force? UMASS? Illinois? Hopefully not. I see your point, but the simple solution is to stop winning games on the last play.
I also couldn't believe how many people were standing in the final minutes of the game blocking my view. Total lack of class.
I don't know that's any protocol or code for all the players to shake hands in football, unlike say, hockey. The only standard is for the coaches to shake hands. That said, I do think Michigan should at least make an attempt to address their opponents, at least just the captains.
They need a step ladder for the celebration. Will Campbell had some trouble getting up the wall after the game.
Agree on the handshaking before celebrating, disagree on the concept of making noise (whether it is crowd noise or music) being "unfair" to the visitor. The second issue is commonplace..well, everywehere, not just EL and is simply a part of the "home field advantage" that every team enjoys.
Why are we still serving Miss Rita's Nacho Dip?
Why? Because its D-DOUBLELICIOUS that's why.
This insulting, idiotic, trollbait of a question actually has a good answer.
The Victors-in-the-student-corner tradition is one of those things that Rodriguez started. Over much objection, I think it has been conclusively established that the team, as a team, never sang The Victors in the endzone until Rodriguez suggested it. Doubters say there is photographic evidence of players in that corner after games. Naturally, I don't doubt the pictures. But pretty clearly, it became a sanctioned event under Rodriguez. One that he joined in, but not until after he had greeted opponents at midfield. Hoke, to my anecdotal observation, doesn't join in. A pure guess; Hoke probably knows that it isn't something that Carr or Schembechler would have encouraged.
I never liked it, and I never thought that it was a great idea initiated on Rodriguez's part.
So if Bo wouldn't have liked it, we can't do it. I see.
If you don't think singing The Victors with the students is cool, you're just a grumpy ass old dude.
If you don't think that it is elementary protocol and basic good sportsmanship, at a Pop Warner, level to shake hands with an opponent after a football game, you're just an ignorant punk.
I didn't protest the idea that the team would sing The Victors with the students. I only suggested that they ought to do what virtually every other team in college football does, which is to shake hands after the game. First. Before the party.
Re-read your previous post. Last pargraph when you said, "I NEVER LIKED IT", PUNK.
Shaking hands would be great, too. Now get off my lawn.
How does anyone as absolutely devoid of intelligence as yourself become so damned arrogant?
You come from money, don't you? Did Daddy buy your way into Michigan? Its nothing to be ashamed of, but it would explain A LOT.
Wait...something Rodriguez did was WRONG?!
against ohio, ND, and MSU. why didn't you post this after those games? or does it not matter in those cases because it's a rivalry game? this is a total overreaction. 18-22 year old kids are going to be emotionally charged after any exciting victory.
I did complain about our conduct after the '11 OSU game. Here at MGoBlog. In the OP just above, and I did so at the time, last year. After the MSU game this year, there was significantly better behavior. Remember Taylor Lewan and Gholston embracing? I was in different seats for the ND-UTL game; without quite as good a view, I couldn't see as well so I don't recall and don't have much comment. But your point that I haven't complained about this previously just fails.
And I don't know why our 18-22 year old kids can't behave as well as -- or better than -- any other school's 18-22 year olds.
never would have happened under RR.
Yes, because we'd never win against a rival...
before our eyes. But Hoke needs to get on this--make the players look the other team in the eye, shake, let them get off of the field. Then commence the celebrations.
I have no problem with running over to the student section for a minute, but take care of business, too. The handshake means a lot; even after my daughter's soccer games, seeing the kids line up and shake gives everyone a good feeling.
It only takes a minute or two to shake hands with the other team. There is plenty of time afterwards for celebration.
As was covered in a previous post. Those of us at the ND game this year experienced loud music and an obnoxiously amplified band right up and through the formation and any audible or called sets. It only stopped right at the snap. I strongly disagree that Michigan stadium is more offensive in regards to the music and I've been to plenty this year. ND was totally classless.
I do agree that we should shake hands with opposing teams before running to the student section. I've watched and usually more than a few players do that before running over.
I did not suggest that Michigan Stadium is "worse." I suggest that I didn't want to see Michigan Stadium go in the direction of other schools and, most importantly, the NFL/NBA/MLB. They don't have marching bands, or 109,000 seats.
People are always going to find something to bitch about. Sometimes you just have to let things be.
Been to a game in Lincoln, you would probably rethink this statement. Their fans are the classiest, most gratious fans I've ever been around. I will always love Michigan but the way that our fans have become more like sparty and buckeye fans is a bit annoying.
It's all Rich Rod's fault.
And RichRod is all Carr's fault. And really Moeller's at fault for Carr. And Bo's the one who had Moeller with him....
1) Driven snow.
2) Ivory soap/Marilyn Chambers
3) Rich Rodriguez.
(Not necessarily in that order)
I would like to see more class but I also feel that the "you suck", when the other team is punting is pretty classless as well.
Arggghhhh! My sister in law pisses and moans every time this happens if we are behind at the time. I am tired of hearing "how can they say you suck when we're losing? We suck. I can't believe how stupid this is" and yadda yadda yadda...Enough already...I get it...and a lot of us probably agree...she is preaching to the choir...try changing the students' view instead.
Damn you kids!
Disagree however I personally know that after a big win on the field you kinda get so wrapped up in the excitement you forget about the obvious things. Shit I left my helmet on the field after a big win and didn't realize it until and hour later, I was just glad we were playing at home
It did have that kind of tone didn't it.
If it was anyone other than Section 1 posting this, most of you would have a different reaction. Give the guy a break.
Remember the 2000 Northwestern game? When they dropped the wide open pass in the endzone that looked to have sealed the game, our guys gave the poor reciever a pat on the head as if to say "don't worry about it man, great game." That's the kind of team I always want us to be, win or lose. Cearly, we didn't get that done this game, and that matters.
Michigan lost the 2000 Northwestern game and it was agonizing.
Section 1 - I usually agree with you but on your suggestions I have two questions:
1. Do you consider a team handshake after a game, any game, to part of the expected protocol for football? I dont ever remember seeing team's do this on a formal basis, only coaches and random players who seemed to know each other from the past. I would have a problem if Hoke didn't shake hands but players seem to seek out individual players (like your MSU game example) as opposed to sanctioned hand-shaking such as after a playoff hockey series for example.
2. If the NCAA is not going to stop teams from playing loud music during the opposition's huddle do you have a problem if we join in and take the same advantadge? I believe it was considered "poor sportsmanship" at one time to platoon players until everyone who did so started winning more consistenly and teams either joined in or lost. I don't like it any more than you do but if other schools are going to do it to us (see Notre Dame 2012) then we damn well need to do it to our visitors too. I want Michigan to win and I dont have a problem giving as well as recieving until such time that the NCAA decides to do something about it for EVERYONE.
Of NU players and some M players meet in prayer around midfield at the culmination of the game. More people than just Kovacs didn't go to the end zone. I agree that I would not want the piped in music to play up to when the opponent lines up.
I saw two players (Was Funchess one? Not sure; I think so) at midfield. And when it got plainly awkward -- Northwestern players standing at midfield looking to the northwest corner -- Kovacs, alone, came streaking back.
Someobody could ask Kovacs. I'm not sure if anybody will get a straight answer while he is still a captain. But I think Kovacs is a straight shooter and could well be asked exactly what the situation was.
you're right section 1: let's just get rid of football.
It would be much better if the team shook hands first, then celebrated with the students. At Michigan, we need to hold ourselves to the highest standards.
As for the canned music, I would also agree the timing and choice of some of them is baffling.
I've noticed this too, they've been doing this for a while now. I agree it is a little weird.
Seriously? Have some perspective for how this game ended. If this happens after a 3 score when then maybe you have a point.
Section 1 is absolutely right about this. At Michigan, winning with class should be a priority, regarless of how close the victory. Again, Kovacs shows he is a true leader, and very worthy of being a captain.
God..what else is there to bitch about today....we have bitched about:
Kovacs wearing 11
Celebration of a dramatic win
Officials of Nebraska games
Denard vs Gardner at QB
We are the Michigan Difference
And what's the deal with airline food?
You open it up, no grapes, no nuts.
When I look back on the immediately pre-Hoke era....And not counting things featuring dreads and wearing the number 16...Those two things you mention were absolutely the only positive contributions of the former regime. Everything else was an unmitigated disaster.
When I look at any changes made to Michigan football and basketball, I think about two things.
1. Does it help Michigan win?
2. Does it compromise the integrity of Michigan athletics?
There is a balance there, and these things are sometimes mutually exclusive(just ask Ohio State) but they do not have to be.
Playing music before the opposing team's ball is spotted...That is absolutely lowering the inhibitions of people in the stands who WANT to make noise, but do not want to stand out. It is absolutely making it more difficult for the other team to audible and hear the snap count. It is absolutely helping Michigan win. And I'll grant you--it is taking the rule book to the letter of the law...but it is not against the rules. They're doing everything they can to help Michigan win, and they would be stupid not to.
As for celebrating with the student section...Go ahead and ask TomVH how the recruits feel about that. And I'll go ahead and admit it--your precious victim Rodriguez started it, and it's awesome. These days you just dont get to see that much unbridled joy, and I think it is awesome that they want to share it with the student section. It plays pretty well on TV, and the recruits like it...It is helping Michigan win. And maybe it is against some little league convention of manners that 20% of teams do. Its not against the rules. And its helping the team win.
Do you guys think there has been a mindset/culture change over the past few years? When I helped coach a middle school cross country team that was really dominant the head coach made sure to let all the coaches and runners know that when we heard the team results we would clap a little and cheer mildly but not jump around like idiots because we expected to win.
With a few rough years recently do you think the guys on the team don't expect to win like Michigan teams in the past? Maybe this is part of the reason they get so excited after winning a close game and forget? to shake hands.
For the record, I like to see the guys shake hands with the other team before heading over to celebrate. Act like you've been there before. Act like you expect to win.
I think this is a fair point. All of you that are butt hurt by Section 1's comment exaggerate his criticism. The players (or at least most of them) can go shake hands before they run to the student section and the coaches can encourage this. It is sportsmanship. If we can't teach that, what the hell is the point of the university having athletic programs? Just to make money have have excuses for tailgating?
I have no problem if some of these guys got so excited about the end of the game that they ran over to the students without waiting. I had no problem with the little celebration they had after the Ohio State game before they shook hands. I had no problem with the team crashing the south endzone when Carter beat Indiana in 1979. There is room for spontaneity, but in general the players need to be reminded (I guess) that they are ambassadors for the university.
Section 1 is not saying that we are worse than or the same as anyone else. He is just saying we can do better.
I am ashamed to say that I for once completely agree with Section 1. Its a worthwhile observation of something that legitimately needs to change. And by 'legitimately', I mean if we want to legitimately hold ourselves to a high standard.
I would also like to see the team shake hands afterwards. Northwestern played a tough game and often looked better than Michigan. Northwestern has classy kids and deserve to be congratulated for their efforts just as they were willing to congratulate Michigan for their efforts.
I've been part of state championships in the past and it was no problem whatsoever to jump around a bit, then go shake hands, and then go running around like a lunatic celebrating with the home fans.
Section 1, this isn't to say you're wrong, cause I agree with you, but you will literally find any excuse to bitch. If you have a bad taste in your mouth after such a thrilling, unanticipated victory then nothing will make you happy. If you have a grievance you can raise it, just stop sounding like a petulant child and maybe people will treat your ideas with more respect
It never seemed like an issue until the OSU game last year, but this year I've felt like we don't shake the other teams' hands very often.
Man, can people just accept, that you can't please everybody. We win and you complain about how we didn't shake hands? The Michigan team can't make everybody happy with every move they make.
I disagree. For years Michigan stadium had the energy of a funeral and quite frankly it was pretty boring. Now with the renovation, and new energy is really feels like we have a substantial home field advantage. There is a reason Hoke and company picked the student section end-zone to defend. I have no problem with them being rewarded after.
I think you are absolutely right. If we say we respect our opponents, our actions need to be respectful in triumph or defeat. To me that includes the end of game handshake. I am somewhat surprised Hoke has not gone out of his way to assert that with the team
This isn't hockey or basketball. There's no organized handshake line it's always just a throng of people and there are always more than a few that just go up the tunnel.
Was this people's first time watching an overtime game with a thrilling finish?
A Michigan Man always offers a hearty handshake before commencing a celebration.
To do otherwise is to fail to comport with the ethos of The Michigan Difference.
These kids need to follow the examples set by their elders
Damn you evidence!
When you look up the word "refute" in the dictionary, this post appears.
And no, I don't think the selected videos refute anything. I think that the wide-angle posted YouTube video of the Northwestern game shows exactly what I originally described. If you want to argue that there have been other big dogpile midfield celebrations, that's okay. And sometimes, opposing teams that have just lost a tight game walk off the field into the tunnel since it's right behind them.
Again, you're welcome to all of the evidence you'd like. It's fine with me. My first witness in this case will be Jordan Kovacs.
It is interesting to me, that when I first posted this thread, the MGoMembership was downvoting me by about 3 or 4 to 1. Since the wide-angle video of the end of Saturday's game was posted on YouTube, the vote is now even.
That it was something you noticed Michigan doing just the last couple of years. This completely refutes that even if you don't admit it. I'm sure he could have found just as many videos of last second wins of other teams that would refute that too. But who wants to waste the time?
Hard to believe you claim to have insight to the game and have watched Fitz the whole game but didn't see him jumping around like a jackass when his QB was hit late, rather than seeing if he was hurt or anything. And blaming it on tv. It's been all over the blog. And others.
Kinda brings into question everything you "watch closely."
And people bring it up because you can't demand class in return if you're not going to show it. Otherwise you'd have to act classy to the Free Press, even if they don't deserve it.
From my viewpoint on the east side I watched all the NW players--who most probably just wanted to duck into the tunnel behind them at that moment--nevertheless walk out to mid field to congratulate The Victors. THAT was class and I was disappointed that only a handful of Wolverines met them there to shake hands. Thank you Jordan.
For most of the game we were outplayed and we would have lost to the better team but for one very fortunate catch with 8 seconds left. The Wildcats earned our respect and most of our players absolutely ignored them so as not to delay their celebration with the students for 30 seconds.
That's not the way we do things at Michigan.
Your avatar is very appropriate.
I have to agree with Section 1 here. Not the end of the world, but definitely not good sportsmanship. And for those who say "they're only kids", there are 18 year olds out there fighting wars and holding down jobs and attending classes and doing all sorts of grown-up things. I don't see how it's too much to expect an 18-year old to show a little bit of self control, especially if coaches and seniors are willing to serve as examples.
As far as piped-in music goes, that's something the NCAA should look at. IMHO that should be limited to time-outs. Give the teams a fair chance to call their signals.
Should the players, perhaps, been a bit more gracious in victory and shaken hands with NW players? Sure.
But even I, as a 44 year-old man, standing in a crowded AT&T store watching the final plays in regulation and OT, leaped in the air and shouted with joy when Demens made the final tackle to end the game. Last year, I raced out onto the field after the OSU win with a friend of mine, as exhuberant as I can ever remember over a win. I was high-fiving and hugging everyone around me.
Should I (or you) expect any less raw emotion from 18-22 year old kids? Was I just too immature? Or are you too much of a stuffed shirt, endlessly (and needlessly) in search of perfection from what - at the end of the day - is a game.
Life is just too damn short for your kind of grumpiness. Get over yourself.
I know which end of the field he wants to play on in overtime!!!
I'm having the same problem. This app (for iPhone anyway) is consistently buggy, although its usually an embedded video that renders a post un-scrollable for me.
upset you, is just so damn disappointing. And embarrassing, quite frankly. Step away from the computer, breathe the fresh air outside, and let the 18-22 year olds celebrate however the fuck they want.
What, have you mistaken Will Campbell for a 1950's-era housewife straining to reach the upper cabinet shelves?
This man is 300 torso-baring pounds of Tackledom.
What we need is an industrial lift.
Or a ramp. A ramp could work, too.
(Edit: Hell. Misplaced response to an earlier post. Point remains, though...)
God forbid children from celebrating an emotional over time win with their classmates....this term "class" is getting over used an is having overly high expectations of people barely old enough to buy beer
I think people should just be happy and quite whining.
Just remember the low of Northwestern's go ahead score with seconds left to play.
Then remember the high of Demens textbook hit and wrap tackle.
The gap of your experience between all of that is called "a full life". You're living it.
I find a lot of merit in what you're saying. I really do. While I do think yesterday was pretty emotionally charged, I think someone ought to have a talk with the team and just explain that they need to go and shake hands with the other team before commending the celebrations.
We can say that these are just kids, but we all like to say that we're Michigan and that we hold ourselves to higher standards. That shouldn't exclude the football team. Shake hands, congratulate the other team, then rage your face off with the student section.
I like how we play Hells Bells and 7NA just like all the other stadiums too. Gives us a professional atmosphere instead of having to hear the marching band plays those old songs from last century.
Can we serve beer and get some billboard advertising too?
I would love it if Brandon installed taps in the Big House. I say we make Bell's the official brewery of the big house.
Bell's isn't big enough to pay for the exclusivity rights we would demand. It would be like the seat licensing fee, except just to sell your beer in the stadium. We'd need to look the macrobreweries for the Big House.
From your lips to Brandon's ears. Bells Two Hearted if you please.
I promise you this...put THAT in the concession stands and the "where the Hell are the students" question goes away in a nano-second. Hell...install Bells in the stadium and we probably won't be able to get them to leave.
Yeah because $10-12 beer is really gonna drive them in...
Since when has there been any organized handshakes in football? The two coaches are expected to meet at midfield and shake hands, and that's about it. Anything else is pretty much unscripted. It sounds like you are just looking for things to bitch about.
Shake their hands THEN go to the student section. That was really awkward looking with Northwestern just sitting at midfield and hopefully doesn't happen again.
What Michigan did was completely classless. After the stop it is fine to run on the field, but immediately afterwards you should shake hands with Northwestern. Then, when that is finished, it is fine to run to the students. But I expected and expect More from Michigan. I hope to not see this again.
I hate when people bring up class with sports. It's not a lack of class or childness. It's a team who is excited about a victory and want to celebrate with there fans , screw the other team if they feel disrespected then good! They should of won if they don't want that feeling,
paid more attention in English class.
Location, location, location.
Had the game-ending play in OT happened in the south endzone, this probably wouldn't have happened. Who picked that end for OT anyway? Yeah, it's Kovacs' fault.
though I'd say calling it childishness is going a bit too far. But yeah, give the opponents their due respect as the top priority, as a general rule of thumb. It's more understandable to me that the team rushes to the students after an unbelievable and emotional win like this game, so I give them a break here. But going forward, shake hands first.
I originally thought you were exagerating, let kids have fun. But then it does look pretty weird in this video of the final play:
I agree with you. I'm gonna go drink a six pack in the shower and cleanse myself.
after the late hit penalty, am I the only one who thought it was simply a "Bronx Cheer?"
He had previously been upset about a number of calls (including the holding call on the kick return and, as metioned above, several no-calls for PI) and no-calls, and to me, was clearly celebrating the officials calling something in his favor. That's the way I saw it immediately, and I still think that's all it was.
Again, having been seated behind Fitzgerald with him in my near-direct line of sight for much of the game, I was amazed at the number of people freaking out about it. It just had to have been something that television distorted for people who weren't at the game. I don't think anybody in the Stadium thought a whole lot about Pat Fitzgerald other than that is just what he always does. He's significantly younger than just about all of the other coaches in the Conference. Except for Bielema, he's young enough to be the son of most coaches in the Conference.
But as much as I agree with you, what the heck does Pat Fitzgerald have to do with Michigan's post-game celebration? Why are we discussing Fitzgerald here?
and it showed a close up of Fitzgerald during the celebration and it certainly didn't't look like a Bronx cheer. it looked like a pure jock rubbing something in the face of a nerd after he was taught a lesson. you know the kind I mean. jaw clinched, fists in the air and jumping looking for someone to high five.
We will ever make it through a game without someone complaining about something.
Yes, this includes me complaining about posts complaining about something.
Not a MICHIGAN football game, that is for sure.
I mean, I don't get it. It's not LLBB or hockey where there's a hand shake procedure. It was a big win in OT with the B10 title on the line. let them celebrate. They deserve it.
I mean, I don't get it. It's not LLBB or hockey where there's a hand shake procedure. It was a big win in OT with the B10 title on the line. let them celebrate. They deserve it.
Sports fans are just as bad as "star suckers."
If there were a "Perez Hilton" style sports website, this is the type of catty shit that would be posted on it.
If this was the standard procedure after every Michigan home win, but it's not. For the most part, when Michigan wins the players make for the center of the field, shake hands and then make for the student section. Sometimes the emotion of the moment gets the better of you and etiquette gets forgotten, but it doesn't make them classless. Jesus, lighten up.