Wow, it just keeps getting better and better in Columbus.
frank beamer #1
Wow, it just keeps getting better and better in Columbus.
"I feel like he's going to get better, he's going to be a great player. It's going to happen in time,"
Ummm...but will it happen before he graduates?
One can hope not
Somehow I doubt he'll graduate, even after the next two years. He could play several years in the NFL before he graduates.
I'm with you on the doubting he graduates, however my thought process was leaning more towards academic inability...
I think Pryor's switch to the Revolution helmet will enhance his pocket abilities. The old helmet with the flashy visor was soooooo WR.
Worked okay for Troy Smith.
It's really funny when a teammmate tries to give you a compliment and it comes out as "he can't do much worse."
Tressel could issue a gag order, but it sounds like there is a lot of gagging going on in Columbus as it is.
"made the case that too much is expected of Pryor..."
That's probably true, poor guy. People are expecting him to complete a pass, score a few touchdowns, and not turn the ball over. It's like they're expecting the kid to work miracles, or something.
Thanks for the link to the article. I do have one question that I would like to throw out there though. If Pryor is further along at this point in time than Troy Smith and Vince Young, then how good will Tate Forcier be? In my view Tate is ahead of Pryor now. So then later, I guess Tate will be a Superman.
The knock on Forcier has been that he has hit his ceiling, while Pryor contains that untapped font of QB greatness. I don't really buy that, though. Forcier's "ceiling" may really be a boring QB who does nothing but make the right read, time and time again, while turning the ball over only four times while leading Michigan to a National Championship. Pryor may inspire cries of "How the hell did he DO that?", but he also inspires cries of "What the hell was he DOING?". As Tate improves, I think we'll all just sit back and be grateful for him.
I'd take a boring QB to win a NC. I don't think Tate has reached his ceiling. He might be closer to it than most freshman, but he still has a ways to go. He misses WR sometimes, he decides to run the ball too quickly sometimes, and runs the ball sometimes on 3rd and long when he doesn't have a great chance to make it. He needs to get more comfortable while staying in the pocket too. While he is very good, espcially for a true freshman, he can still get quite a bit better.
I agree completely.
Agreed. Besides, we saw the Iowa game; I'm really sure that's not going to be representative of his ceiling.
(This is not a knock on Forcier; he went into a tough environment, etc. He's just not at his limits yet.)
I think Tate has proved he is anything but boring.
Sounds like a former Big 10 QB who is doing quite well in the NFL right now- Drew Brees. Tate needs to improve his arm strength and get stronger before you can actually compare the two, but....
" Boring QB who makes the right read time and time again "
Sounds like Tom Brady, who, as the NFL Internets are quick to remind us, NEVER EVEN STARTED IN COLLEGE!!!
I know this isn't the main context of the convo but, I hope 180 lbs isn't Tate's ceiling.
Oh, Amen to that!
to read the discontent along the Olentangy.
Great to see some angst developing in Columbus these days. I think that by the end of the year, they may have some serious doubts about being able to win at the Big House.
the exact quote is,
"From his first pass, (people said) he's really not that good. But I really feel that's kind of hard for a guy like that, you know what I mean? There's only one Tim Tebow in this world and I don't really know what people want from (Pryor)," Posey said. "He's going to get better. He really can't do much worse."
It's really funny, but kind of taken out of context.
only embarrassing to the extent that he admits to a teammate being something other than terrific or trying really really hard. I think it's an insightful comment otherwise, with more useful context in itself than ESPN would be given to provide anyway.
he wont graduate - he'll go hang out with maurice clarett
IN a similar piece (same Posey quotes) TP's HS coach calls out Tressel for misusing TP, and says his skills would be a better match for RR.
TP will be what he works to become. Same with Tate and Denard. It's a bit early to talk of ceilings for anyone.
You know what? This may be blasphemy, but if Pryor wanted to transfer to Michigan, I'd greet him with open arms, no doubt about it. Sure, we hate him cause he is the quarterback at OSU, but what OSU quarterback have we or will we ever like?
I don't like the guy as a person, but he has a lot left to offer as a football player
I wouldn't want him as a transfer now. Not because he hasn't performed well enough, but because he only would have two years of eligibility left (and wouldn't see the field until 2011, Tate/Denard's junior year).
I agree. With Forcier/Robinson now and Devin Gardner on the horizon, I'm okay with Pryor struggling for 2 more years at OSU *crossing fingers that Pryor will struggle for 2 more years*
he'd have two years as he didn't redshirt.
but we're all entitled our own opinions.
Terrelle Pryor's going to be a Heisman contender by his senior year. There's no question in my mind. He's an incredible talent and Tressel will get his wrinkles worked out on offense.
Here's to a few good games in the next three seasons.
He was a Heisman candidate to start THIS year. I don't doubt that he is talented, but the dude's got some serious mental-capacity issues. There is too much going on at once for him, it seems. He can't get out of his own way...
Last year, he (relatively) succeeded because they had a quarter of a playbook to use. This year, they've tried expanding it for him, and he can't handle it.
I think he was referenced as a possible Heisman candidate because of all this potential that people saw in him given his physical gifts. That doesn't actually mean he's a talented quarterback.
He's not staying for his senior season.
Who will draft him at what position in a season and a half?
...actually, if you said Oakland Raiders, wide receiver, you might be right
I have to agree with you. Remember how unimpressive one Jimmy Clausen looked until the Hawaii game last year? We all thought it was a fluke, he couldn't sustain that level of play. Well he's been a pretty damn good QB this year and very accurate even without Floyd in the line-up. I hate Notre Dame and Jimmah but I won't deny his skill. Same deal with Pryor, he's still dangerous when playing to his strengths and has time to improve.
Clausen has 2 NFL receivers and a senior offensive line. I know he he's a good qb, with a powerful arm that is accurate when not under pressure, but I think the offense takes a good sized step back next year once the o-line graduates. Clausen just falls apart under pressure.
at all? he's an incredible athlete, that's not the same as being a good QB.
There's definitely question. If next year this time we're still labeling him as has great "potential" then I think we start to realize it's just that - something unfulfilled. But at this point the entire OSU offense is less than impressive at almost every position and that's a lot of players that were highly recruited.