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June 1st, 2012 at 3:05 PM
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Please pick M

I love watching Saban lose

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:08 PM
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Let's hope Poggi is the first

Let's hope Poggi is the first part of a 1-2 Saban-losing punch that ends on September 1.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:28 PM
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I also enjoy watching

I also enjoy watching Michigan win occasionally.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:07 PM
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We really need him

What are our chances, Ace?

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:08 PM
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Has he ever visited?

Has he ever visited?

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:11 PM
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It's been a while, but yes...

It's been a while, but yes... at least once.  Visited Alabama most recently.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:11 PM
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He's definitley visited. More

He's definitley visited. More than once I believe. Magnus or someone else may be able to better fill you in.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:16 PM
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He has visited twice.

He has visited twice.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:38 PM
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He visited for Purdue last

He visited for Purdue last year and he visited in mid-March this year.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:41 PM
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What do you think of him?

I can't remember if I've seen him on TTB or not. 

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:42 PM
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http://touchthebanner.blogspo

http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2012/03/scouting-report-henry-poggi.html

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:40 PM
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He has been on campus three

He has been on campus three times, once for a game (Purdue). Latest visit was in March

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:10 PM
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The next 30 days = June

The next 30 days = June

Sam Webb predicts multiple good things will happen in Michigan recruiting in June.  

1+1 = Hurst and Poggi.

 

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:02 PM
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Oh yeah... Hurst + Poggi +

Oh yeah... Hurst + Poggi + Treadwell + Green.... think REALLY big

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:05 PM
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Treadwell

I think Treadwell will decide at the end of the summer.  ...but I guess HS kids can change their minds quite easily, so we'll see!

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:12 PM
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Bucke up?

Someone needs to put "MGoLaw" in this PIC for us:

 

 

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:15 PM
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Will you prosecute anyone who

Will you prosecute anyone who does not buckle properly?

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:26 PM
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Done

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:07 PM
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+10,000

Good stuff.  +10,000 for the weekend as long as you grant me a license to repost this at will. 

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:31 PM
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Can he go for 20,000

If he adds some Maize in there too?

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:40 PM
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I actually drafted one up at

I actually drafted one up at the same time I made the first one.

 

And of course I'm fine with these being used whenever you want.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:44 PM
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Speaking of MGoLaw . . .

I hope the MGoColor Police don't get after you for your rendering of maize!

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:46 PM
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ZOMG, we are not Oregon.

ZOMG, we are not Oregon.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:48 PM
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+ another 10,000 anyway. 

+ another 10,000 anyway.  Good suggestion, M-W.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:57 PM
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Yeah, the other one was a little too Penn State for my taste.

But far be it from me to critique more hard work and creativity than I was willing to put in.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:55 PM
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I tried to match it by using

I tried to match it by using the color picker to match the color of the font on the site. It looks like the color picker failed me. Oh well, changing the color is as simple as using the paint bucket tool.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:32 PM
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Great Job!!

Wonderful!  Great Job!!  Even got rid of that sickly looking green.  /s

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:14 PM
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How many more DL were we

How many more DL were we expected to take?

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:17 PM
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The number I've heard most is

The number I've heard most is 4, including Taco.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:44 PM
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Yeah, but every program does

Yeah, but every program does that to a certain extent.  ND and OSU didn't offer Bolden last year, even though both teams later took lower rated LBs.  Maybe the staff felt Schutt was redundant with Pipkins, and wanted a true 3-tech guy instead. 

The Lucien thing makes me crazy (but not in the way it makes everyone else, it seems, crazy).  Everyone got so excited about him because he had four stars from Rivals and he liked us, then he though Hoke was crazy for turning him away.  HE HAD NO OTHER MAJOR OFFERS.  Hoke said no to Lucien because he wasn't good enough.  Same reason the big West Coast teams passed on him. 

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:26 PM
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No major offers?

He didn't have a ton of major offers, but Cal, UCLA, Nebraska, Miami, ASU, Texas A&M and Colorado are hardly nobody.

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:28 PM
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But who on there is elite? 

But who on there is elite?  He is from LA, but no USC, Washington, Oregon or Stanford, the top recruiters on the west coast.  No Texas or Oklahoma, no ND, none of the major midwest or SEC schools. 

There are TONS of kids who have offers from those schools but not from Michigan - Lucien is hardly the first.  I'm not saying those offers are from nobody, but everyone makes Lucien out to be this can't miss prospect.  Well, the good half of the Pac-12 felt fine passing on him, so why is MICHIGAN getting worked up over it?

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:41 PM
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Why is Michigan getting

Why is Michigan getting worked up over it?  Because he wanted to come to Michigan.  And we need receivers, which is why we're taking 3 or 4 of them this year.  And regardless of what other people thought about offering him, he is reportedly in line to start for UCLA in 2012 as a redshirt freshman.  Not that UCLA is a great team or has a boatload of other elite guys at wide receiver, but he could turn out to be a pretty darn good receiver...and Michigan has 5'8" Jeremy Gallon starting at split end.

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June 1st, 2012 at 10:34 PM
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And there are plenty of kids

And there are plenty of kids offered by those schools who are offered by Michigan.  If Michigan restricted itself to offering only those players who are sought after by "elite" programs, we'd hardly have enough players to field a team of starters right now.  If that.

 

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:15 PM
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I know we have lost some of

I know we have lost some of the more recent battles to other schools but honestly I am just glad we are in them. The kids are thinking about Michigan seriously, and it is a good thing. You can't win them all, but we are battling for them.

 

 

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:15 PM
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Ill be just as surprised if

Ill be just as surprised if Poggi picks us as i would if Hurst did not pick us, if that makes any sense.

If not, this is my feeling.....

80% Hurst

20% Poggi

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:16 PM
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Show me whatcha got, whatcha

Show me whatcha got, whatcha got, Poggi.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:17 PM
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Crosses fingers

Oh please, oh please, oh please. Not that this class isn't already insane, but this would fill one of our few remaining needs with, maybe, the top guy on the coaches board. 

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:18 PM
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Poggi and Hurst play completely different positions

Hurst will be a nose tackle and Poggi will be a strongside defensive end/3 tech. They have nothing to do with one another. And Poggi has visited and loved it.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:22 PM
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All of the recent reports say

All of the recent reports say Hurst is being recruited as a 3-tech, like Poggi. 

Not that those are set in stone, but what has been reported so far is that Hurst is also a 3-tech, not a NT.  This is not super surprising considering he's athletic and un-huge.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:10 PM
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I remember an interview with

I remember an interview with Hurst wherein he said that Mattison told him he was being recruited primarily as a 3 Tech, BUT that he would likely see time at NT as well spelling Pipkins.  Hurst is already 300 lbs. so plenty big enough to play NT and his quickness will  be an asset there a la Will Carr, Mike Martin and the like.  Really happy if he goes BLUE.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:31 PM
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That's my impression also,

That's my impression also, that they view Hurst as a 3-tech/1-tech and Poggi as a 3-tech/5-tech.

Mattison likes to roll his DL during games, so we need 8-10 solid players who can contribute.  These two guys would really help.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:52 PM
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3-tech

Hurst was quoted as being told by the coaches that he's being recruited as a 3-tech and he mentioned that it was because PeeWee would be playing NT.  He could play NT after PeeWee leaves.  Poggi is expected bo be a 3-tech, 5-tech.   It appears they would take both and probably still go after a top SDE.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:19 PM
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lets try to keep the

lets try to keep the expectation lid down on this one. After Garnett and Levenberry I tend to be more cautious about when people think we have the best chance. Just hurts my heart too much

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:02 PM
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Keep the lid down

always good advice. Keeps the rats out, too.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:24 PM
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Please pick U-M

I know we have a great class already, but it seems we have been losing these more public decisions lately.  Hopefully that trend ends with Poggi deciding in our favor.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:29 PM
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The interesting thing is not

The interesting thing is not that Hurst is visiting this weekend, it is that Hardreck Walker, another DT, is visiting late June.  If Poggi is feeling pressure it is that Hurst AND Walker will take spots, not just that Hurst will.  The Walker visit might be the one that is bringing Poggi forward.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:05 PM
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Poggi doesn't need to feel

Poggi doesn't need to feel pressure from Hurst, its obvious that Michigan is recruiting him at RB. Fred Jackson thinks that he is a mix between Refrigerator Perry (but bigger) and Gayle Sayers (but more elusive).

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:10 PM
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More like Tecmo Bo Jackson,

More like Tecmo Bo Jackson, but more powerful.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:29 PM
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Sam Webb has said that he is

Sam Webb has said that he is very confident that Poggi will blue, and he has also said that he believes Michigan will have a great June recruiting month.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:44 PM
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Did Sam really say this?  Do

Did Sam really say this?  Do you by chance have a link?  I recall Sam saying something to the effect that we are looking good for Poggi, but nothing saying that he thinks Poggi will be blue.

Looking good really only means we have a good chance, like 30% chance plus.  Not that we lead.

 

WIth that said, i sure hope Sam did say that.  Would love to have both Poggi and Hurst but i think Poggi is all Bama.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:58 PM
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You think that if Sam felt we

You think that if Sam felt we had a 30% chance in a two horse race he'd say we're "looking good?"  I doubt it. 

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:09 PM
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His percentage scale is odd

30% = looking good

He gives Poggi a 20% chance of going blue in an earlier post.

He says in his latest post that he thinks Poggi is "all Bama"

so one must deduce that 20% = looking very, very bad.

so a majority of the uncertainty is bundled up in the 20-30% range.

 

 

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:12 PM
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That's very complex.  It

That's very complex.  It seems that the difference between 22% and 28% is about as great as 28% and 90% or so.  Once you're at 30, you're golden. Dip below 25 though, and you've got an uphill battle.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:55 PM
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It was an example.  Sam

It was an example.  Sam saying we are looking good for a recruit, may mean that he gives Michigan a 30% shot if 2 other universities are also at 30%, and 1 at 10%.

Wouldnt you say we are looking good too if we are even with 2 others?

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:32 PM
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Wait, Poggi's dad's name is

Wait, Poggi's dad's name is Biff?  Now I really want him. 

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:41 PM
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Make like a tree and get the

Make like a tree and get the hell out of here.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:43 PM
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I have your car towed all the

I have your car towed all the way to your house and all you've got for me is light beer??

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:20 PM
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Why didn't you tell me your

Why didn't you tell me your car had a blindspot? I could have been killed!

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:58 PM
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Say hi to your mom for me.

Say hi to your mom for me.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:19 PM
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That's about as funny as a

That's about as funny as a screen door on a battleship.

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:19 PM
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"It's leaf you idiot"    

"It's leaf you idiot"

 

 

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:59 PM
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Who you calling butthead,

Who you calling butthead, butthead?

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:35 PM
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Just my opinion, but I do

Just my opinion, but I do like our chances with Poggi. His parents really seemed to love the visit and the coaches, and Alabama wants him as a tight end. I think it's very close, but I just think Michigan might have a 55/45 edge.

And no, I did not think Michigan would get Levenberry, so I don't think every prospect goes our way.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:43 PM
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Where is this tight end

Where is this tight end business coming from?  That is the first I have heard that.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:46 PM
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He plays TE in high school.

He plays TE in high school.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:00 PM
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Is Alabama really looking at

Is Alabama really looking at him for TE?

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:06 PM
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I couldn't tell you for sure

I couldn't tell you for sure because I don't follow Alabama recruiting, but I believe that's what Roll Damn Tide said in one of his updates.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:50 PM
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Yes

From what I can gather, they want him as TE/H-Back type. Think Brad Smelley.

Also, Andrew Bone, who is Scout's 'Bama guy, is really confident that Alabama will land Poggi, but he doesn't have nearly as good of a track record as Sam Webb, so take that FWIW

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:51 PM
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I will take Sam's gut over

I will take Sam's gut over Andrew's boner anyday of the week

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:43 PM
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I would like our chances more

I would like our chances more if Poggi was visiting prior to his annoucement.  

I'd say Hurst is a lock to go blue when he visits.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:44 PM
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I wish...

I could believe all the pro-Poggi banter but after Levenberry/Garnett/Isaac/et. al. I have become very skeptical of recruits who visit other schools and commit soon after. Rarely does that seem to work out for the previous "leader" (M). Here's to preparing for the worst and hoping for the best!.....

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:48 PM
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Whatever happened to

Whatever happened to Mgoposter Roll Damn Tide?  I generally enjoyed hearing his insights on common recruits.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:01 PM
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Well, if he guarantees another one to Michigan....

...we can all stop worrying about it because it'll mean he's headed to Bama.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:46 PM
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Keep Your Head Down

RTD is probably waiting this one out given his last 3 calls:

- Levenberry favors Michigan

-  Isaac favors Michigan

- Poggi favors Michigan

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:48 PM
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Considering the

Considering the alternative,in this case 1 out of 3 ain't bad

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:49 PM
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Whatever happened to

<double post. sorry.>

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:51 PM
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Obligatory No Seat Belt PSA

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June 1st, 2012 at 7:54 PM
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Joke redacted

EDIT: Redacted my joke because I didn't realize this guy died.  What kind of sick fuck posts a gif of a guy dying in a thread about recruiting?  Is this MGoFacesOfDeath?  

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:19 PM
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good lord

did this dude survive?

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:34 PM
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No he did not. This was a

No he did not.

That window is open back there. That was his head going out as the car rolled. I saw this film in a mandatory seat belt safety class I took for all the wrong reasons.

I wish this was about recruiting. Peace to this guys' family - that he didn't die in vain.  I always think about this prior to buckling up...which I guess is the point.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:46 PM
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Is he wearing a Duke t-shirt?

Please say, "Yes."

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:59 PM
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I think it's Dale Earnhardt.

I think it's Dale Earnhardt.

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:29 PM
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Iron

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:57 PM
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Dude, this guy died. That is

Dude, this guy died. That is a gif of someone being killed, possibly instantaneously. Not cool. 

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:54 PM
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I don't want to imagine the

I don't want to imagine the complaining if Michigan loses another 50/50 battle.

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:55 PM
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Hello Ryan Van.. err I mean Henry Poggi

 

Not identical, but they could definitely pass as brothers

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June 1st, 2012 at 3:59 PM
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I'd be very happy with

I'd be very happy with another RVB.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:22 PM
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I won't anytime soon forget

I won't anytime soon forget RVB's sack of Troy Smith down near the goal line, setting up a Safety on the next play when OSU was called for holding in the End Zone.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:23 PM
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Troy Smith?  Are you sure?

Troy Smith?  Are you sure?

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:27 PM
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whatever his name is, some

whatever his name is, some damn buckeye QB. What is his name anyway? Anyway..... memorable Michigan play

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:31 PM
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Braxton Miller.

Braxton Miller.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:41 PM
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Actually glad I didn't go

Actually glad I didn't go back to the Seventies and pull Cornelius Green out of the memory bank

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June 1st, 2012 at 8:29 PM
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I think you're confusing the

I think you're confusing the good memories with the bad ones. 

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:28 PM
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I'm not doubting the kids

I'm not doubting the kids talents, but let's be real here.  He will have a much better shot at making some noise at Michigan than he will at Bama.  Southern D line recruits are freaks.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:32 PM
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He won't have to worry about

He won't have to worry about souther D-line recruits, because he's reportedly being recruited for tight end by Alabama.

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:44 PM
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Poggi, Treadwell, Green

Poggi, Treadwell, Green commitment on same day sometime this June, Ok recruiting deities?

Oh, and Hurst this weekend too please. It's been awhile since the last Hello post, I need a hit.

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June 1st, 2012 at 10:10 PM
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No offense newbie,

but with 31 points, I'm surprised you even know what a "Hello" post looks like.  I bet you're a Hello post virgin. 

Either way, welcome to the board, sir. 

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June 1st, 2012 at 4:59 PM
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Last Visit to Bama

We don't seem to do well in these close calls when they don't visit Michigan last.

But let's hope that:

- academics

- playing at DT

- and the Hoke family culture

....win the day over Bama.

 

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:43 PM
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I have been hearing this too

I have been hearing this too - Not a knock against Michigan or Hoke, but Saban goes around promising the best recruits that they will have a future in the NFL if they play for him, and who can compete against that? Maybe USC or Florida State. But in recent years, Michigan has not put out too many first rounders. 

I think Hurst picks Michigan this weekend and Poggi goes to Alabama. (Not that they influence each other since Hurst at 6' 2'' would be better slotted for the nose anyway).

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:29 PM
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If Saban Really wants this kid....

...we are in trouble. Saban rarely loses kids that he really wants. We have a knack for finishing a close second for the big fish so to speak. Hopefully that trend won't continue. I think we should really go after Green as hard as possible. Green+Treadwell+ Hurst+ Poggi would be a great finish.

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:57 PM
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This is silly.  Bama doesn't

This is silly.  Bama doesn't get everyone they really want... by a long shot.  Come on.  This is classic... if they get a kid it is because they REALLY wanted him.  If they don't it must be because they didn't really want him because... you know... Bama always gets a kid if they really want him so they must not have really wanted him.

Bama has never finished a class with a 4.0 star average in Scout's database.  I'm pretty sure that if they were getting everyone they wanted they'd win the recruiting war every year, right?  They don't.  Michigan currently has a 4.0 star average with 18 commits.  Are we getting everyone we want... I meant the ones we REALLY want??

Please.

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:36 PM
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I agree with you.  However,

I agree with you.  However, there are schools out there that have a better track record at landing top tier recruits year after year and usually get what they want (not always who they want).  If Bama misses on Poggi, they will surely get a top DL in his place.

Schools with a great track record?  Bama, osu, USC, ND (but they will leave soon after), and FSU.  I consider Michigan in the second tier, and will soon cross over and join these schools with a year or two more under Hoke.  Everyone is bitching about losing out on Ty Issaic, Lavenberry, ect..  We have a great class and will continue to have a top 10 class every year with a guy that knows how to sell Michigan.  Hoke and Mattison know what's up.

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:42 PM
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michigan and alabama dont have the same standards of tact.

When Bama really wants a kid....strings get pulled. That's all I'm saying. Julio Jones committed to Fsu the night before signing day and low and behold an overnight phone call lol. Kuandjo is another example. Michigan does things right. Miss Mary and Singletary don't cut corners. I believe Bama will. All I'm saying.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 10:18 AM
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Strings get pulled? Does the

Strings get pulled? Does the 14 in michiganman14 stand for years old, seriously?

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June 1st, 2012 at 7:49 PM
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Only getting people they

Only getting people they REALLY want? Sounds like something Buckeye fans would think of.

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June 4th, 2012 at 9:28 AM
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I guess Bama didn't REALLY

I guess Bama didn't REALLY want Poggi after all.... it is the only explanation.

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:39 PM
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Recruit X favors Michigan.

Recruit X favors Michigan. Recruit X then visits 2nd school more recently. Recruit X sets commit date. Recruit X picks other school.

It's happened way too much for me to not think that he's going to Bama

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June 1st, 2012 at 5:42 PM
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Poggi a TE?

Per Poggi's father, after his second and most recent visit to Alabama:

"Everyone wants him to play defensive line, but everyone has told him that he could play tight end for them. There are a few schools recruiting him solely as a tight end/H-back and as you know from looking at the NFL draft, the last two days that position has become incredibly valuable in the league. Tennessee has been recruiting him as a H-back/tight end, as is Oklahoma. Alabama has offered him at like three different positions, so we’ll see. He just wants to play- he doesn't care where."

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:23 PM
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He gone.

He gone.

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June 1st, 2012 at 7:04 PM
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While

While a TE is valuable at the next level. A DT has even more value in the NFL. Especially if he has received good coaching... which Poggi would get at Michigan.

NFL teams, can always pick up a good TE after the 2nd day of the draft. However, if you have a chance at a good DT, you take him in the 1st round.

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June 1st, 2012 at 7:12 PM
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Too bad

To bad he doesn't see it that way, but nice try.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 8:31 AM
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NFL or Cut

This reminds me of the Woody Hayes quote about passing:

"There are three things can happen when you pass the ball and two of them ain't good"

 

If Poggi chooses Alabama, there are three things that can happen and two of them ain't good.  

A. He will indeed make it to the NFL

B. He'll have his offer pulled before signing day, in lieu of another recruit (now referred to as "Pulling a Saban"): http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/tag/alabama/

C. He'll get cut before his RS Freshman season to make room for a 2013 recruit (read that same link for information on how Saban cuts current players, post signing day, to make room for incoming recruits)

There probably isn't much chance of anything inbetween happening.  

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June 2nd, 2012 at 8:43 AM
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The funny thing about Woody's

The funny thing about Woody's statement, of course, is there are three things that can happen when you run the ball, and two of them ain't good.  You can gain yards, lose yards, or fumble.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:11 PM
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True-Dat!

True-Dat!

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June 2nd, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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Alright. Officially

Alright. Officially unbuckling and going to the bar. I've seen this movie before and don't like the ending.

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:21 PM
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This is good news given the

This is good news given the portents for June. 

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:35 PM
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He's going to the Tide.

He's going to the Tide. Probably why the kid from Texas was offered.



Oh, well. Although this does make me wonder a little about what it is with the current recruiting strategy that two headed battles may as well be conceded once they start.

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:38 PM
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First come first serve.  I

First come first serve.  I wouldn't look at it as a sign of weakness with Poggi, but a precaution if he goes elsewhere.  They can't just send offers to their first choice, anything can happen with recruiting.

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June 1st, 2012 at 7:10 PM
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We should sign everyone

Why in the hell are we missing these kids, our class is shit, we are failing. I am going to go jump off a bridge. #sarcasm I would be happy if we didn't sign one more kid. This class kicks ass so quit bitching. F!

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June 1st, 2012 at 7:48 PM
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Yes

That's a bitch! We need to sign all 5 stars going forward. What an idiot!

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June 1st, 2012 at 7:52 PM
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bluestan
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I like how you felt the need

I like how you felt the need to put the word "fucking" in that sentence.

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June 1st, 2012 at 7:58 PM
(Reply to #120) #424
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It adds emphasis.  I do the

It adds emphasis.  I do the same thing.

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June 1st, 2012 at 8:58 PM
(Reply to #121) #425
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BFH

BFH

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June 2nd, 2012 at 12:33 AM
(Reply to #125) #426
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JMFJ

#3 <3

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June 1st, 2012 at 8:58 PM
(Reply to #120) #427
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Yes

It does add mother fucking emphasis!

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June 1st, 2012 at 9:17 PM
(Reply to #117) #428
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Contrary to weird and

Contrary to weird and extremely biased readings of what I said, I wasn't suggesting Hoke can't recruit.  I am over the moon with how well the staff has done, but you can't deny there's a trend of losing 50/50 battles or even battles where a guy slightly favors Michigan.  I'm just wondering if it's just one of those things or something more systematic.  That's all, no bashing of the staff intended.  

I reiterate, I think Poggi's Bama bound.  Doubt there's any need to buckle up.

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June 1st, 2012 at 6:44 PM
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graybeaver
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There's a decent possibility

There's a decent possibility that Michigan misses out on all of their top remaining targets. That is the only downfall of having 18 verbals before June 1st. I bet Hoke lands at least 2 recruits in this class that nobody including Sam Webb is mentioning. Regardless this class will be top 5 nationally and that is awesome.

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June 1st, 2012 at 9:17 PM
(Reply to #110) #430
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Exactly even if the class

Exactly even if the class misses out on Treadwell, Green, and Poggi(highly likely).  It's not the end of the world as the class is very highly rated and with great talent.  I just think that we need to get ready to welcome more Willie Henry Senior Year Breakout specials(which given the success of Jake Ryan I'nm a big fan of) than five star guys to fill out the rest of the class.

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June 1st, 2012 at 9:27 PM
(Reply to #110) #431
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I don't understand the

I don't understand the connection between getting a lot of early verbals and missing out on later top targets.  Help me out?

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June 1st, 2012 at 9:56 PM
(Reply to #130) #432
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I think he means... a) We've

I think he means...

a) We've already won 18 recruiting "battles"

and

b) some top targets might possibly be turned off by the guys who are already committed.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 2:02 PM
(Reply to #131) #433
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Thanks... definitely

Thanks... definitely possible.

Still, though, if you think about the particular guys involved, this doesn't seem like a realistic explanation:

Isaac clearly wasn't worried about competition at his position, since he committed knowing that another 5-star RB was about to commit to USC.

Garnett joined an O-line class at Stanford that was completely loaded with talent - much more so than even our O-line class (though I think Peat committed after him).

Levenberry... well, this might actually be relevant for Levenberry.

And for Poggi, yes, Michigan has 18 commitments already, but exactly zero of them are DTs.  Even if Hurst commits, it's hard for me to believe that this would scare Poggi out of committing.

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June 1st, 2012 at 8:12 PM
#434
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Just my opinion, but I think

Just my opinion, but I think Poggi choosing not to decide at the end of April is an indicator. I know that academics were high on his list and he has a brother at Duke, so his family has probably pushed academics. Saban is definitely selling the NFL very hard and making him take more time to consider. Hoke hasn't been here long enough to establish what Saban has at Bama, obviously. Saban is probably spinning the offer at multiple positions as a positive and using that as a tool to guarantee playing time. I think it's likely that Saban has done enough to make academics an afterthought for Poggi. Have him going to Bama, merely my take on it.

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June 1st, 2012 at 9:24 PM
(Reply to #122) #435
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Guess we'll see if academics

Guess we'll see if academics are part of the equation for Poggi. 

If anyone picks Bama over Michigan and then says academics were an important part of the decision, then they are either misinformed, delusional or just full of it.

Having a brother at Duke is a good sign.

 

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June 1st, 2012 at 8:57 PM
#436
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We could wind up surprised,

We could wind up surprised, but I've got to go with the consensus that Poggi may commit to Bama.  But we'll see if he changes his mind after UM wins the kickoff classic in Dallas on Sept. 1.  (fingers crossed)

 

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June 1st, 2012 at 10:22 PM
#437
Belisarius
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We missed out on Levenberry.

We missed out on Levenberry. We missed out on Isaac. Why in God's name is everybody ready to write off every recruit we come down to the final two, for, now? Lord. Bunch of gloomy folk. Let's wait and see.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 9:57 AM
(Reply to #133) #438
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Because of human nature

I think what's happened is we've learned to read between the lines instead of applying hope and personal biases to the information received.  In all of these cases there's been what seems to be a tipping point where the battle has gone against UM and never was able to reverse course.  In the case of Poggi, it seems like we've gone past the tipping point and thus the negativity.

 

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June 2nd, 2012 at 9:17 PM
(Reply to #133) #439
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I believe it's referred to as

I believe it's referred to as hindsight bias. After you get kicked in the balls three times in the past 70 days you decide wearing a cup is a great idea...

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June 2nd, 2012 at 1:03 PM
#440
Sinsemillaplease
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Do the Hokey Poggi...

for good luck.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 2:20 PM
#441
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This more than a want...

We NEEED Poggi and Hurst.

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June 2nd, 2012 at 4:04 PM
(Reply to #145) #442
Carcajous
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One down...

One down...

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