Ok I'm all for it when it gets the crowd loud (Seven Nation Army, RAWK), but Sexy and I know it? Really? I don't know any of the other stuff they played besides Sweet Caroline and Don't Stop Beliving but it was all pretty terrible and it really didn't help with atmosphere at all.
Piped in music getting ridiculous
I agree. It's nonsense and it needs to die.
It's impossible to please everyone. More news coming up at 11.
I wish that we wouldnt play piped in music every other down, and it gets in the way of the crowd noise on third down if everybody's chanting 7 nation army instead of just yelling as loud as they can.
Seven Nation Army was played no less than 10 times. It was awful.
That's positively average for a home game now. Against Minnesota I counted 6 in the first quarter alone.
but on the opening kickoff? if seven nation army has a place, it is later in the game. i could even live with it being played on a big 3rd down, though i'd rather people just yelled. but if seven nation army is required on the first play of the game to get us pumped up, something is seriously wrong with our fan base.
But when it is played in moderation. Like 2-3 times a game is fine at good points (like during a timeout before an important defensive play) It gets the student section pumped up more than just about any other song. However, they play it FAR too much. I lost count of how many times exactly at 10. It's hit the point where I hear that song in the stadium almost as much as I hear the victors. And it's getting kind of crazy.
Sounds like a veiled dig at the offense to me...
The fact that they have comparable numbers (as our offense has done well this year) just shows how ludicrously trigger happy they are with that song.
I was making a joke...forgot the sarcasm tag
yet. a reasonable alternative- why doesn't the MMB play seven nation army instead of pumping it in?
The Jay-Z/Kanye track they kept trying to play sounded like it was being played through someone's after-market subwoofers in their '03 Dodge Neon after they've blown their speakers trying to be cool.
can we stop whining about piped in music...how about we get our keys out and jingle them like idiots....piped in music is here to stay just deal with it and stop being blue hairs about it.
I like the piped in music. I'm just saying, the playlist they came up with yesterday was terrible.
I don't like watching football games and hearing music and think "Oh, that sounds just like the Big House"
I watched the USC-Stanford game and noticed they had some original (i.e., not played in every other stadium in the western hemisphere or cheesy bachelorette parties) music playing, and even at Penn State, they played a song that was actually released in the past 5 years. It would be nice if the DJ realized there are more than 4 songs ever written.
We should not use PSU as a model. Pretty much all they do is play piped-in music. Even after a TD, they play Zombie Nation.
Personally, I don't really care about the playlist. I want the piped-in music to be used sparingly, when the MMB isn't available.
One thing I noticed about the USC-Stanford game is the band was playing *a lot* more than it was during the Michigan game and they sounded great.
Why doesn't the MMB learn some songs in addition to the ones they know, and play those instead of having piped in music?
Music-wise, my takeaways from the 2 games were:
- USC - great sounding band
- Michigan - 7 Nation Army. (Besides The Victors and Temptation, which are obviously great. But why can't the band also learn other songs and play those instead of the piped in shit? 7NA is played out and boring at this point. Same with Don't Stop Believin'.... (aka "OMG ppl, they're about to say "South Detroit" so let's scream it real loud b/c we're from Michigan... even though South Detroit doesn't exist!!" Lame.)
Pretty much just plays "Fight On" every 5 seconds.
It's one of the most annoying things in all of college football.
Actually, the one you hear the most is called "Tribute to Troy". It has the slow march beat to it like gladiators marching to war. It is the second part of a three song compilation that together makes up the USC "song".
"Fight on!" is part 3. It is more up beat and is played a lot after first downs and touchdowns. You'll hear "Tribute to Troy" many more times during the course of the game. I like USC but I won't disagree with you on the annoying part. They take the band on all the trips too. It really annoys home crowds.
If you care to listen to the whole thing together, the annoyingly overplayed "Tribute to Troy" is at :40. "Fight On" is at 1:40.
No matter how many times it is played, it beats piped-in music. Sadly, it is the way of the world at these games.
Maybe the problem could be solved with better microphones on the MMB curtosy of ESPN2.
I don't think USC's band plays more total songs than ours does. As far as I can tell, they just play their fight song, that Trojan chant thing, and the "Charge!" song over and over.
Yesterday, during the game, the MMB played "The Victors," "Let's Go Blue!," "Intimidation," "Temptation," "Respect" (I think), "Lose Yourself," the Caribbean Victors, the Blues Brothers song and I think at least one other one I can't remember. It's not the number of songs, but the frequency of playing that is key. The problem is simply that we kept on piping in "Seven Nation Army" before defensive third downs, so it was easy to miss all the times the MMB did play.
USC's band is not a good example to follow by any means. They play the same two songs 13 billion times throughout the entire game. That Conquest/Men of Troy thing they do is played so often that it's become a running joke with the rest of the PAC 10 opponents. When USC's band starts playing it, they sing along with the words, "This is the only song we know, the only song we know, the only song we know." They're as bad as Florida State's band and that stupid Braves cheer which they play after every down no matter what's happened (20 yard gain or 20 yard loss).
I'm glad our band has a little more variety.
Yeah I think you're right about the total # of songs MMB plays vs. USC band. The main point I was getting at above was that USC's band sounded much better than hearing 7NA piped in.
I'd rather have all piped in music than those sunglass wearing one song playing idiots. You could've named almost any other band and you would have had a better point.
South Detroit is Windsor
That's not how you spell 'Mexicantown'.
You sir, know nothing about Marching Bands. The USC band is one of the least musical and least least liked bands in the nation, and that includes from their own fans.
MMB already knows both of those songs, among many other would-be piped-in alternatives.
is the proper attitude. The piped in music will go NOWHERE. But, they play what they play because it's what everybody plays. If you want better stuff, send them recommendations.
I agree with what your saying but I think he is asking for more of a variety of music. They should get with the lions on what they play. They do a pretty good job of mixing up their music. I like the piped in music I
Iike the fact the fan base is getting younger too. I can't stand the people who get all pissed off when people want to stand up and watch and get excited. if you wanna be boring (like this one women who was about 300 lbs and had a cane) and sit and clap your hands that's fine but don't yell at me when everyone else stands and I stand to see over them. The last 5 games I've been to people have yelled at me for standing and yelling too loud.
If somebody actually manages to convince an usher to come over, then sit sometimes. Otherwise, screw them.
year they seemed to have found a nice mix, but yesterday was atrocious.
On the plus side I did catch Denard head bobbing to one song, including after the song was over while lining up for a snap. He then proceeded to run for about 30 yards.
I had no qualms with sexy and I know it, but then again i like having an excuse to do the hip thrust motion.
Seven Nation Army every down is the most annoying thing in the world
It wouldn't be such an annoyance if they didn't play it 10 times per quarter, but instead of pumping people up, everyone around me groans whenever it's played now.
I don't understand who thinks it's a good idea to keep blasting the same 3 songs the entire game.
Get off my lawn, rabble rabble. It's gonna happen. Not that big of a deal.
Every time we substitute "The Victors" for "In the Big House", we are essentially replacing the near-concensus greatest fight song of all time for the toadstools of queefcore. To me this is a big deal.
On that note, I don't think "In the Big House" was played yesterday. Or if it was, it must have been during the pregame.
If we have to play it, play it a couple times per drive, and not more. Most of the people here complaining about it are in favor of night games and new scoreboards, and not blue hairs.
its so...EVERYBODY ELSE!!!...Id much rather iisten to our band anytime, anyday anyplace...
ENOUGH with the piped in music
What would you recommend they play to get the crowd fired up? Because it was pretty god damn awesome during the Notre Damn Game. The crowd was pretty STALE yesterday...i guess you can blame that on Purdue.
I can't tell if that's a typo or if you did it on purpose. Either way it's awesome.
Jesus Lizard, Massive Attack, The Clash, The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, The Buzzcocks, Wire, Gang of Four, James Brown, The Pogues, etc.
Just curious, what Massive Attack and Mastodon tracks are you thinking of? Big fan of both groups.
The crowd was fired up when there wasn't piped in music going on key plays in the ND game.
Why don't you start one of your world famous petitions about it?
Funny, the first post on there was about having Piped-In Music and Ads plastered wall to wall. We've got the music, and we already started the Ads at The Big Chill.....
I thought there was a good mix of having the band play during some timeouts and whatever the music they played also. I think they have reached a good middle ground to me, it's clear it isn''t going away but they aren't making the band a nonfactor like at Penn State these days.
piped in music definitely makes for a more fun environment but they need to take a page out of the hockey band's playbook when choosing songs. The hockey band plays relevant, fun songs that people can sing along to, but they play them once. No one reacts to the band playing cadances between plays but also no one reacts to seven nation army on a second down in the 3rd quarter. There needs to be a mix that can maximize participation from the crowd.
I've been pretty Meh about the Piped In Music so far, I mean I remember after UTL when they played it and it got the Old people behind me jumping around. But it's seems like it's been playing WAY too much. I think they're overusing Seven Nation Army and Journey should never be played ever
You know what? Maybe this isn't about you (us) as fans. The players enjoy the piped in music. That is a fact. If Seven Nation Army helps our defense get up for a big set of downs, so be it. I couldn't give two shits about whether this is "so SEC" or "minor league hockey-esque". If our players enjoy it, nobody should complain. It could be worse.
Support this team, the program, the AD, and our players.
Even though I agree with your main opinion it's not smart to try and make this about whether or not people support the team. People are perfectly allowed to offer their opinion.
The players should be fired up for a big third down regardless of whether there's piped in music or not.
So when you are at the gym, on a run, or at a tailgate, there aren't any songs that just fire you up when you hear them?
Everybody has different tastes. For you, that song may be Slayer, it may be Metallica, it may be Kanye, or, judging by your comment, it may be Sarah McClachlan.
For the players it happens to be Seven Nation Army. If it helps the players, we should all be able to deal with it.
This comment is.
I'm laughing right now whilst eating my corn flakes.
Seven Nation Army is way overplayed. It would be good every once in a while to help fire up the student section, but when they play it about 10 times per game, it's just annoying.
They play 7 nation army like it's our song. No it isn't the victors is.
I guess that wanted to claim a piped in song as "our song". Seven Nation Army worked well against ND, so now it's "ours"... and way overused.
My main complaint is the "Seven Nation Army" before a bunch of defensive plays. Way overdone. Other than that, they've used the piped-in music reasonably sparingly.
stop complaining...dont go to games or bring your fucking ear muffs you pussy...its the 21st century ...
7NA only on 3rd downs? Then followed by the band's Temptation? Rocket Man by Elton John was cool. The Blue Hairs were singing like crazy.
I guess I prefer the Band and less piped in music. Wait......is my hair turing blue?????? Lord please help me.
3rd downs is Temptation, everyone knows this. I like 7NA when returning from a timeout because it's handy for getting the crowd back into it.
stop complaining...dont go to games or bring your fucking ear muffs you pussy...its the 21st century ...
+ one billion. Best response to this post possible.
College football = marching bands.
Did Michigan have a problem winning at home before RAWK? I don't seem to remember that being a problem that needed solving.
Because that's totally the fault of a lack of crowd noise?
I was on the field for that game. It was plenty loud when it needed to be. Too bad the team decided not to execute all game.
If only we had piped in "Welcome to the Jungle" before that last field goal attempt. Gingell totally would have made it.
Little did we know Sandstorm would have automatically cued Crable to block his man.
That's cool, but frankly, I don't care what Northwestern needs to do to get their 50 fans into supporting a team that has a hard time winning a football game. The Purdues and Minnesotas of the world don't have the greatest college fight song ever written, the best college marching band in the country, the biggest stadium in the country, and a school with an iota of the tradition and prestige of the University of Michigan.
We give way too much credit to a "raucous atmosphere" (which is a purely subjective term anyway), and not enough credit to the kinds of things that actually win ballgames. Blocking, tackling, catching, throwing, kicking, technique, scheme, those win football games. The White Stripes don't.
Hey look, a band member who is actually implying that there is no correlatation between the band and the outcome of the game. When I was in school, the band geeks all but insisted that they were responsible for a 7 point advantage each week.
Does anyone else dislike the "you suck" chant as much as me? I've always thought it's so stupid. The band part is great and I like the ominous feel of it but saying You Suck just seems pretty weak to me. Especially the last couple years when we would do it after one good third down play even when we were losing and/or getting dominated the entire rest of the game and it was clear our defense was the one that sucked.
And "Leaders and the best" sounds awfully conceited now that I think about it.
I do normally dislike the You Suck chant, since it's very rare to find the sweet spot where the other team actually does suck, AND there's still a reason to unleash such a negative cheer on them.
For instance, when Michigan's beating up on a MAC team, then sure: they suck. BUT, why bother to tell EMU they suck? They're not expected to keep up with Michigan, everybody knows the way the game is supposed to end; it's just mean.
On the other hand, it's probably a lot worse to yell "You suck!" at a team that is actually winning, as has often happened over the last 3 years. When the visiting fans can laugh and legitimately respond, "Scoreboard!", maybe this is a bad idea. Even more worse, the You Suck chant was probably answered 10 or more times by 4th down conversions in the last few years. That sucks.
I have to admit, though, after Purdue's missed-call-assisted quick strike and general horsefaceyness on Saturday, I did have to crack a smile as the student section informed them of their lack of football talent.
I wish the student section could be coordinated well enough that somebody could make the call to chant or not chant on a situational basis. Two consecutive punts for any B1G opponent not in the middle of a GopherQuest? You Suck! Any punts when Appalachian State comes back in 2014? YOU SUUUUUUCK. Baby Seal U is setting up for a field goal? Maybe we don't need to yell this time.
With all that said, I would prefer if this cheer could be traded in for something positive, like the similarly-syllabled "Go Blue." There's just something so middle-school-ish (i.e., Danny Hope-like) about it.
I'm just happy this is the biggest gripe with yesterday's game. I was at the Clemson @ Georgia Tech game yesterday, and their piped in music is 90% rap, Waka Flaka type rap too, not even good stuff.
it gets the crowd which we are always talked down about here at Michigan pumped up. One of my favorite college traditions beside the U of M is Wisconsin and the timeout between 3rd and 4th quarter Jump around by House Of Pain. Man that would get me jacked if I were rooting for the Badgers. Our fans yell atme every year for freaking staanding I mean I live in Ohio and it is my vacation to come up to Ann Arbor and I feel like the older fans deserve there fun but holy crap they want to just sit and listen to the game on there radio and make almost zero noise. So if the piped in music gets only 10 percent more people up and going crazy like it did for me at the UTL game then I am all for it.
You clearly don't appreciate college football and view it as the same as pro..
The band should play, and if your 18 year old students can't get pumped by the band, they shouldn't be at the game.
Maybe the mix of music had something to do with homecoming and all the old people who were back in town at the game?
I know the argument would be, wouldn't they just prefer the band, because that's what they had. But, if DB is trying to sell a new expereince, maybe the mix of music was supposed to do that.
Disclaimer, I was not at the game, only what I could tell over the ESPN2 broadcast.
Piped in music is here to stay, regardless of what anyone really wants. I think the best way to reduce the complaining is for the athletic department to start cracking down on exactly what songs people want. Perhaps they could do something akin to what the marching band did with "fan appreciation day," and let people vote in X amount of categories ranging from what songs should be played to when they should be played.
I like all the music hahah...
serious about liking it which I cant really tell, I also like the music I am telling people the music helped without a doubt for the UTL game. The stadium was rocking and I had no voice after the game from screaming seven nation army for 4 quarters. I mean the game also helped but the music was great lol.
Yesterday was the closest to a minor league baseball game experience I've ever had at Michigan Stadium. The RAWK was out of control(and more often than not earsplittingly loud), the Rocket Man deal struck me as an unnecessary gimmick (play the Space, Bitches PSA and call it a day), that train graphic on the scoreboards, everything felt extraordinarily cheap and generic. Very un-Big House-esque.
And, here' s a fun fact: One of the highlights of Homecoming has always been the alumni cheerleaders doing gymnastic tricks in the end zones during stoppages in play. It's fun, and always gets the fans really into things during lulls in the action. They were told this year they were not allowed to do flips and such on the field, or so one of them told a few of us in Alumni Band. And it was true, they basically just sat and did nothing for the entire game.
A little bit at a time, the uniqueness of Michigan is being chipped away in favor of a generic, corporate, sterile experience. Seems to me "revenue streams" and marketing gurus rue the day in DB's Athletic Department, and it really doesn't need to be that way.
I was distracted by it and missed a pretty big run by Denard
RAWK = Wow factor®
Old cheerleaders doing their traditional thing? . . . not so much.
The alumni cheerleaders doing their thing is one of the highlights of homecoming for me, and I definitely noticed when they didn't come around doing flips and shit for the whole game (although at one point during the fourth quarter they came by and one of them did an awesome handstand).
It makes me really sad that they were told they couldn't do their gymnastics this year, do you have any idea why? :/
the mix yesterday was different than most other games. Because of the tribute to the Apollo 15 "all Michigan" crew ... the MMB played "2001 A Space Odyssey" and the RAWK included "Rocketman". No Journey yesterday either.
Also the atmosphere was less than exciting ... the students were REALLY late getting to the game ... and also left before the end. I know the rain didn't help, but when the team ran over to the students after the game there were maybe 10 rows of students. Part of this was because it was Purdue and the other part was ANOTHER 12noon START. We have had 1 3:30 start this year ... which sucks.
If you're a student at u of m, and you don't show up to a football game because it's a noon start.
You're a complete and utter waste of a seat which could go to a season ticket holder.
If you will show up on time for a 9AM class without thinking about it, yet won't show up on time for a 12PM kickoff at Michigan Stadium...
It couldn't be that difficult for Athletics to do some kind of system with the ticket barcodes to determine which student tickets were actually scanned and which weren't (they've done it for basketball in the past), and even go a step farther and keep track of how many minutes after kickoff those same tickets were scanned, and use that data when determining seating locations next year. Don't use your tickets? Welcome to row 85. Consistently don't use your tickets until 30-60 minutes after kickoff? Welcome to row 84.
Great idea. We need more students like Lloyd Brady, whom I saw at least three times on the video board.
It's the reason my wife asked me if the Red Wings were playing?
This will probably be my ticket to Bolivia, but I think it would be cool to play dubstep to help get the students and the younger crowd into the game. Not to mention it would be original unlike Seven Nation Army, which is becoming increasingly annoying.
Yeah. We should have a rave and drop some wiz remixes.
I hear La Paz is wonderful this time of year.
There's been some song they've been playing when michigan is on defense where it just sounds like really hard rock yelling. Someone name it if you know what I'm talking about.
...yesterday was the first day they did NOT play the Pop Evil crap in that 5 seconds before the team takes the field. Come to think of it...I don't remember any Pop Evil! That's a huge improvement!
But do we really need Seven Nation Army before the first snap of the game? Pump up music with 3 hours of play left?! Let me drink my $8 hot chocolate in peace fergodsakes.
they only played it during warmups
...you can tell because they show early to soak it all up during pregame.
Someone said the band need to learn more music and play it instead of the piped in... If you actually listen to them (i think it was mostly the third quarter), they were playing a lot of popular music arrangements.
I realize that this is a bit off the point but what also bothered me what the cartoon Boilermaker train being zapped or whatever. That reminds of Spartan stadium the last time I was there (2001) when they had something similar -- not an example we want to emulate.
I heard the band play Kashmir (I think) in the thrid or fourth quarter and felt like I hadn't heard them play all day. Can we limit the piped in stuff to maybe one song per quarter? I liked the idea at first but it's really being overdone.
Going all the way back to middle school, I have absolutley hated band music, it makes my head hurt and stomach turn, to me it just sounds like noise. Just not my taste in music, my guess is those who dont like the piped in music feel the same way about that. You are not the only fans, other people like different things. Theres 100k+ at the stadium, if only 10% are like me and can't stand band music, then thats 10k people who grin and bear the band to make you happy. So my suggestion is to just deal with it and stop being so selfish.
The ONLY band song I have ever liked is The Victors - music is awesome and the lyrics make it the best ever.
Just how I personally feel about band music. My feeling on Piped in Music is, QUIT PLAYING THE SAME DAMN SONGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, like listening to a bad radio DJ who keeps playing the #1 song that week, just ruins it!
I love Seven Nation Army, but god dammit if I hear that song one more time I will punch a goat in the face. It's good once or twice a game. Maximum.
new songs yes not doing it or doing it less no
Seven Nation Army is the new B1G conference theme song. I heard OSU play it at least 3 or 4 times against Wisky. Penn State does. We over do it. Notre Dame does it. I think Jim Delany is just brain washing the whole midwest with it ala Mugatu
How about the BS Notre dame plays crazy train on every play, I know their band sucks but come on find some other music to play
but it generates a lot of white noise. More ambient white noise is better for the stadium atmosphere. So I guess I should get used to listening to RAWK before kickoffs from now on.
The miking of the band is good for similar reasons.
...at a high school game, aside from the piped-in music (37 iterations of the Black Eyed Peas and 14 repetitions of Cat Scratch Fever--oddly, it was the very first game all year that I did NOT hear a single playing of Seven Nation Army) they had piped in crowd noise so we could pretend there were actually a lot of people at the game.
This could never happen in college, right? At some school (no, I'm not referring to Michigan here) that stopped filling their stands because fans resented being hit up for big mandatory contributions just to stay on the season ticket list, it couldn't happen....
The Journey song was coming in pretty loud over the television. I haven't been up there for a game since they started piping in music, and I have to say it was quite surreal to hear it over the television. I really don't know if I like it or not.
Still get your White Stripes, play something relatively underutilizied. Problem solved.
I have always been partial to the Raconteurs' "Steady As She Goes," although I'm not sure if either of these lends itself so easily to being chanted along with.