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Pioneer vs Golf Course for Tailgating

I'm wondering which one everyone prefers when it comes to tailgating?  I usually go to Pioneer but last year it seemed like they were cramming everyone in and you didn't really have room to set up bags (cornhole) or tables.  Or any suggestions on where at Pioneer is the best to park to avoid that?

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August 24th, 2012 at 11:22 AM | I always go to AAGO, I use to (Score:2)
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I always go to AAGO, I use to park at the UM course off of Stadium, but they would always put us in a crappy spot with not as many people. It seems to me though in the last year or two, the crowd as gotten smaller at AAGO, I prefer bigger crowds myself, makes tailgating more fun. Is it better if you go to the golf course entrance on State Street?

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August 24th, 2012 at 11:26 AM | Park for $30 dollars on the (Score:2)
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Park for $30 dollars on the cheaper golf course. Cars are parked close but you have plenty of room either behind or in front.

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August 24th, 2012 at 11:27 AM | Is it acceptable to urinate (Score:4 Normal)
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Is it acceptable to urinate off in distance in the trees on the course or is this offensive to some?

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August 24th, 2012 at 11:37 AM | If your not on the actual (Score:3 Normal)
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If your not on the actual playing area and no one sees you. Sure.

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:07 PM | this seems (Score:2)
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like a reasonable idea. For me, this quickly changes to opening a car door and pissing in the grass there. As I say it now, it sounds gross, but the inebriated me doesn't find it that bad at all.

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:18 PM | Unless you miss the grass and (Score:4 Normal)
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Unless you miss the grass and get it in the car door compartment. Lol.

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August 24th, 2012 at 1:20 PM | I don't get that (Score:4 Normal)
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drunk. Sandals and toes are also a target to avoid though.

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August 24th, 2012 at 1:21 PM | Jeebus (Score:4 Normal)
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How drunk do you have to be to miss the GRASS in the middle of a freaking GOLF COURSE?



/I'm pretty sure I've missed.

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August 24th, 2012 at 2:29 PM | its not so much of missing (Score:3 Normal)
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its not so much of missing the grass as it is hitting your car door.

hasnt happened to me but i would be really 'pissed' if it did.

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:10 PM | As long as it's not in the (Score:3 Normal)
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As long as it's not in the cup.

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August 24th, 2012 at 10:43 PM | Be very discreet--- (Score:2)
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AA Police  have apparently last season started cracking down on public urination on the golf courses, I saw them during one of the early-season pre-game tailgates last year checking along the treeline between the two golf courses, they looked like they were writing a ticket for one guy and I saw another pair of officers some 50 yards or so away also checking along the treeline.  Then a few weeks later we then heard from another nearby group of tailgaters that there had been some complaints about the public urination problems and that there had been a lot of "stops" made, including a few arrests for disorderly conduct when a few of the more inebriated "nature boys" got too out of control when approached by officers.

I've often chosen trees in the past rather than wait in long lines for the porta-potties, but from that point on last season decided the wait was a little less risky. 

Regarding the parking situation, though, I much prefer golf course parking to the gravel or asphalt of Pioneer HS.  Even more importantly, though, I can drink freely and openly on the courses, while at Pioneer, alcohol consumption is prohibited (although I have no idea how much enforcement there is of that ban---it's been at least 5 years since I've parked omn Pioneer property.).

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August 24th, 2012 at 11:32 AM | So similar topic...I'm just (Score:2)
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So similar topic...I'm just doing one game this year and going to msu um. I love to tailgate but my normal crew backed out of going to the game because there cheap. So just going with the wife. Tailgaiting just the two of us doesn't sound all that fun, but also want to get into town early and get some pregameing done and make sure when is sufficiently "lubed" up too lol. Where would there be a good bar to go grab some grub and some drinks before the game?

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:13 PM | Nothing close (Score:1)
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There aren't any bars really close to the stadium. The closest is probably Packard Pub. Concrete floors. Trashy. On the corner of Packard and State.

I like Fraser's. Its on Packard near Stadium. Townie bar with hot waitresses.

Or, if you don't mind walking a little further go to Good Time Charleys on South University but beware, it will get very crowded.

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:28 PM | Packard Pub - closed (Score:3 Normal)
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Packard Pub closed over the last Christmas break, and has not reopened since, and there are no plans to open it in the fall.

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:57 PM | Cub's AC (Score:2)
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10 - 15 minute walk

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August 24th, 2012 at 1:02 PM | Brown Jug and all that isn't (Score:2)
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Brown Jug and all that isn't that awful of a walk, even some of the bars on main street. You'll have to walk regardless.

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

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August 24th, 2012 at 1:36 PM | Park in the garage near the Jug (Score:2 Normal)
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on Forest. Go to the Jug, Charlies first. There will be people boozing at the bars and eating. You may not get a table, but you can stand and drink.

There is also plenty of food nearby. You can then walk to State St and go to some bars there and then walk to the game. The benefit is that leaving the garage on Forest is easy and you can get food after the game there too. I did this a few years back, and it was awesome.

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August 24th, 2012 at 2:02 PM | This sounds like a good plan (Score:2)
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This sounds like a good plan. How early does that garage if up? Looks like a nice walk to the stadium. Will be the wife's first Michigan game....first time really ever being at a major sporting event....I took her to northwestern last year but thats not even close to the experience that lays ahead

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August 24th, 2012 at 11:40 AM | So my radical suggestion is: (Score:2 Insightful)
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Tailgate at the lumber yard thats right on hill and 5th. It is where they have that big bus & party, and is an often overlooked tailgate spot.

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August 24th, 2012 at 3:14 PM | South Industrial Parking Washtenaw News (Score:1)
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Great place to park, indoor bathrooms and older crowd that has fun but not a drunk fest.

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August 24th, 2012 at 11:41 AM | toss up (Score:1)
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Pioneer is good for location, proximity to stadium, and it's easy to get in and out.  However, it seems tighter and doesn't offer as nice an atomosphere.

 

the golf course is less convenient (see reasons above) but offers a less compact and better tailgating atmosphere.

I personally prefer the victor's club parking lot.  You can't beat the proximity to the stadium and watching the band play the victors on the way in to the stadium.  

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August 24th, 2012 at 11:42 AM | Ive tailgated at both and the (Score:2)
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Ive tailgated at both and the UofM course is much better. Cheaper, better crowd, friendly workers

Despite what the other guy calls himself, my name actually is Magnus.

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August 24th, 2012 at 11:42 AM | solicitors (Score:1)
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Is it me or is the amount of charity solicitation getting out of control during tailgates?  

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August 24th, 2012 at 1:26 PM | Yeah it's kind of crazy. I (Score:3 Normal)
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Yeah it's kind of crazy. I mean, I don't mind throwing $5 - $10 at the Woman's LAX team but when dudes are coming up wanting a dollar for an American flag pin that cost him a penny...that's where I cross the line. Move along buddy I got beer to drink.

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August 24th, 2012 at 11:43 AM | Jesus, use the internet for (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Jesus, use the internet for more than FB and porn. Fuckssake.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:02 PM | I do.  FB, Porn, and MGOBLOG. (Score:5 Normal)
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I do.  FB, Porn, and MGOBLOG.  

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:03 PM | For my money, it doesn't get (Score:4 Funny)
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For my money, it doesn't get any better to be boxed in on some guy's back lawn in AA.  But that's just me.  It's all part of the experience - getting a dent in your hood from a football being thrown by a drunk guy pretending to be Chad Henne and taking a massive dump in some stranger's bathroom.  All part of the experience.

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:27 PM | I live 2 blocks west of the (Score:1)
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I live 2 blocks west of the stadium and you'd be surprised how many people park at my place and then just walk over to pioneer or the golf course to tailgate with friends.  It's half the price and easier to get out.  Your comment about people throwing balls or risking damage to cars is funny, but on my street there really isn't any of that going on.  I wouldn't say it's quiet by any means, but no one is really around the cars.  Anyway, this idea is only good if you already know people tailgating in other locations.  $0.02

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August 24th, 2012 at 1:13 PM | I take great satisfaction (Score:1)
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in denying rival fans entry to my bathroom when my landlord parks them in my yard despite my drunken objections. He still manages to get 25-30 out of them even w/o bathroom access... and they won't even realize the bridge is out so technically the yard isn't a 5 minute walk from the stadium anymore. Suckers...

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August 24th, 2012 at 3:10 PM | bathroom denial (Score:3 Normal)
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Since most rival fans tend to be respectful and decent (buckeyes and sparties exception), I think the only rivals I personnally would deny bathroom use would be buckeyes.  Make them hold it...they probably brought their own cooler for that business anyway.

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:13 PM | Whichever one has free beer. (Score:2)
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Haven't tailgated either, but been to tailgates of both, and I'd say it probably depends on the size of your party.  If it's big the golf course has more space, and a more relaxed atmosphere for people to spread out and chill. If you're not having that many people, you can always share tailgating fun with those who are right next to you in the Pioneer lot, and fewer people won't be all crowded under one tent.

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:27 PM | my choice (Score:1)
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is pioneer. I have parked at both locations but you can usually get to pioneer a little earlier and those spots aren't to bad for setting up games and tables.

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:57 PM | Give me the golf course! I'm (Score:1 Normal)
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Give me the golf course! I'm a man I want grass and dirt under my feet when tossing the pig skin!

GO BLUE!

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:59 PM | IMO, (Score:2)
ChuckieWoodson
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Joined: 01/13/2012
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Frysinger park is the best option.  Free parking on street (as long as you're about 3 hrs before most games) just enough space to throw the football around and play some cornhole.  Only a 10-15 min. walk to the stadium.

"Touchdown... No flags!!"

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August 24th, 2012 at 12:59 PM | The golf course off State (Score:2 Normal)
dlanny22
Joined: 01/04/2009
MGoPoints: 732

My group, the "Jager Yearbook tailgates on the course and we are always up for hosting more people.  If any fellow Mgobloggers want to stop by and do some shots or beer pong feel free.  If you want to stay for thte whole time thats cool as well.  Here are some good sights of it ...

 

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August 24th, 2012 at 1:04 PM | I usually just hit the golf (Score:2)
DrunkOnHiggins
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I usually just hit the golf course but last year for UTL was forced to park at Pioneer. It was my first time parked at Pioneer. It looked pretty obvious (because of the weather) they were trying to jam as many people into Pioneer as possible so it was pretty crowded but as others have said, sometimes it's better that way. We had our own little cubby hole of people surrounding us.

I have a single ticket to the MSU game and am looking for some people to tailgate with. Let me know...I will supply a shit load of beer and liquor. Just give me a shout.

"And if that doesn't wet your appetite, you're watching the wrong channel."

You can usually find me bumping some Reggae, hammered on Higgins Lake with the goon squad. #HALOL

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August 24th, 2012 at 1:13 PM | I prefer the golf course.   (Score:2)
pasadenablue
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I prefer the golf course.   The grass vs concrete/dust makes all the difference.  The golf course is gorgeous, there's tons of room and beautiful trees for a small measure of privacy, and if you get drunk and fall over, there's a beautiful carpet to keep you from injuries.  Pioneer is literally a noisy pit of gravel on gamedays.

This is home...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgijdypJUEQ

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August 24th, 2012 at 1:21 PM | .. (Score:1)
THISISMICHIGAN33
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I liked the old pioneer lot better until they moved it last year. The golf course is better.

THIS IS MICHIGAN

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August 24th, 2012 at 2:10 PM | According to MGOBLUE.com UM (Score:1)
ZB75
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According to MGOBLUE.com UM golf course is up to $40 this year and Pioneer has went up to $50.  Thats three straight years that Pioneer's price has increased (was $30 in 2009).  http://www.mgoblue.com/genrel/082609aad.html 

 

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August 24th, 2012 at 2:18 PM | WTF? I still have my parking (Score:1)
Wolverine Devotee
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WTF? I still have my parking pass from 2007 when it was $20. May be a collectible now.

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August 24th, 2012 at 2:17 PM | Nothing beats Jack's Lot on (Score:1)
Wolverine Devotee
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Nothing beats Jack's Lot on Potter St. off of State St. across from The Big House. 

Been tailgating there since my first game. I went to the golf course once for the 2007 game against notre dame. It was nice, a lot of people but too many notre dame fans.

Me no like opposition.

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August 24th, 2012 at 3:38 PM | You have to do anything (Score:2)
DrunkOnHiggins
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Joined: 06/16/2011
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You have to do anything special to get into "Jack's Lot" or you just show up early? My buddy knows people who park over there.

Thanks

"And if that doesn't wet your appetite, you're watching the wrong channel."

You can usually find me bumping some Reggae, hammered on Higgins Lake with the goon squad. #HALOL

Go Blue!

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August 24th, 2012 at 6:32 PM | Berkley! (Score:1)
cozy200
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One block from the stadium at the first intersection. Carols yard is amazing. Whole yard sold out before the season, fresh porta potty and only 25 for the last 8 years. Great people and lots of food.

Its called a royale with cheese

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