November 5th, 2011 at 3:40 PM ^
We need to pick this game apart play by play for every missed bad call, bad spot, and all the crap in this game. Then start a petition, get enough signatures and send it to ESPN, the NCAA, and the B10...
I want an explanation for this, these people are paid way too much money for this crap.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:41 PM ^
AP: "Michigan drove to Iowa's 3-yard line with 16 seconds left. But Denard Robinson missed on four straight throws, with Iowa's B.J. Lowery breaking up Robinson's final toss to seal the win."
Makes it sound so simple.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:51 PM ^
It's the AP for a reason. MSM is awful.
November 5th, 2011 at 4:30 PM ^
"breaking up" the final pass is....one way to describe what happened.
The other way is to say what actually happened.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:41 PM ^
Can't believe that any of those 3three schmucks don't have the balls to say the refs missed the TD and the penalty on the last play....the 2 calling the game did not have a problem saying it
November 5th, 2011 at 4:15 PM ^
I didnt' see the BTN commentators but, Mark May and Holthhhhh both said it was PI and Holthhhh said it was a TD.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:42 PM ^
Brady Hokes not complaining about it, we shouldn't either
November 5th, 2011 at 3:42 PM ^
The refs have done their part in each of our road losses and there's definitely an argument they've kept some of our points off the board. But the play-calling and Denard's continued adventures with the downfield passing game have played at least as big a role. Blind refs or no, we should be putting more than 14 or 16 (or 21~23) points up.
otoh, the defense seemed to play better than one that gave up 24 points.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:42 PM ^
the refs weren't the ones calling run plays into Iowa's 8-man defensive front
The refs weren't the ones who decided to go to the spread when only when we were down late
Sorry, guys, I know we're all incredibly frustrated, but for me it's not just with the officiating, but also with our offensive coordinator, who just refuses to get out of his own way
November 5th, 2011 at 3:49 PM ^
agreed! the whole weekend you hear how iowa's defense struggles with dual threat qbs, but Borges decides to keep Denard in the pocket and run a power I that didn't work for 3 quarters of the game.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:42 PM ^
We just need to complain and blame the refs for everything, oh wait thats what most the fanbase already does. Poor Coaching/Denard lost another 1 for us.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:45 PM ^
Denard actually played well, the receivers did play like lil bitches, I think Al Borges lost this game for us.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:49 PM ^
17-37 with 2 stupid turnovers , was that a joke? Just because he showed signs on some plays doesnt mean he played well wake up. I do agree this game is on Borges' shoulders.
November 5th, 2011 at 4:07 PM ^
best, when he isn't being used properly. And I actually thought Denard threw the ball well, with the exception of the overthrows on deep passes. A couple of those incompletions were tipped balls at the line as well. He was accurate on short to intermediate passes, for the most part. The INT wasn't a bad decision either, another play where it looked PI and the receiver had inside position when he threw it.
November 5th, 2011 at 4:43 PM ^
was into double coverage
November 5th, 2011 at 6:13 PM ^
Denard's numbers. You can't fault him for those, those drops are on the receivers. He played better than those numbers indicate.
November 5th, 2011 at 4:04 PM ^
Oh, so it's the recievers' fault for not being 15 more yards downfield when Denard throws deep?
November 5th, 2011 at 3:42 PM ^
some of the playcalling was almost as bad as the officiating....not to mention some of the costly drops and the team coming out flat in general. Put all those together and you get disaster.
This team better buck up because they will get their asses kicked next week with Illinois coming off the buy if they show up to play two hand touch football.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:43 PM ^
I thought we were getting screwed with spots all game long. I didn't know that was just the lubing.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:44 PM ^
...with the notion that 'we didn't deserve to win'. No, neither team dominated the game. Got it. If you dominate the game, bad calls don't hurt you. Got it. But in the last minute, Michigan scored a TD that could have tied the game...they deserved that. Being mad about that being taken away is totally legit.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:44 PM ^
At least they're consistent. That's a no-call the rest of the game, too.
And that's a problem, obviously.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:46 PM ^
We didn't play well enough to win, but should have ended up in OT anyway. It was a pretty nice job by the defense to keep us in it. Would have been great if they make one more play, but pretty nice job by them. I had issues with the playcalling too, but hopefully Borges learns that we can move the ball with short first down passing to force defenses to respect that and open up holes on the ground.
I'm bummed, but not that down. I think we beat the Zookers next week and I still think OSU is not that good. 9-3 is still entirely doable and would be a success.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:47 PM ^
We did ourselves no favors in this game, but it's been a while since I've seen referees home cook a game like this. The interference on the first half pick, the fact that Hemingway clearly had the ball with two hands and a knee down for a TD at the end of the game, and then this missed interference on Roundtree. Stunning incompetence that, had Iowa been on offense for any of those three, I bet would have swung the other way.
Regardless, Borges is a problem. He has plenty of time to improve, but his play calling is uninspiring. His inability to better exploit standard, vanilla cover 2 run by a bunch of Iowa corn fed white boys who aren't fast is troubling. His ineffectual use of Gardner evidences complete lack of faith in Denard's ability, justified with how errant Denard was on so many deep balls, especially the one where Roundtree was wide open for six but overthrew him by 8 yards.
It is what it is. Preseason I thought 8-4 would be good. Looks like 8-4 remains the target.
The future is bright for this team. I'm going to hang my hat on that.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:47 PM ^
This game is another perfect example of why "home-field advantage" exists in sports... The refs subconciously desire to please the home fans and call the game accordingly.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:47 PM ^
Screw the refs, also we shud not called time out with 16 secs. Shud of spiked it then ran it
November 5th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^
...not spiking it ended up giving us 4 tried instead of 3.
November 5th, 2011 at 4:31 PM ^
Is it better to have 4 plays where you need to throw to the endzone or 3 plays where you know you have the possibility of running because you saved your timeout?
November 5th, 2011 at 3:56 PM ^
You majored in clock managemewnt as Les Miles University didn't you?
November 5th, 2011 at 3:48 PM ^
This game is another perfect example of why "home-field advantage" exists in sports... The refs subconciously desire to please the home fans and call the game accordingly.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:48 PM ^
This game is another perfect example of why "home-field advantage" exists in sports... The refs subconciously desire to please the home fans and call the game accordingly.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:52 PM ^
Who cares if we didn't deserve to win or not, the fact is that at the end of the Game the Refs changed the potential outcome of the game, not once but twice. That's what pisses me off the most, that in the final 10 seconds of the game the refs didn't let the game be decided on the field
November 5th, 2011 at 3:48 PM ^
let's not also forget.....UM two turnovers....Iowa zero....can't be -2 the next games and win.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:48 PM ^
We can sit here and say "Oh, we should have played better and it shouldn't come down to that", but guys...we aren't some juggernaut team. We're maybe a bit better than Iowa. It was at Iowa. So those calls were really the difference between us winning and losing that game.
Were weren't outplayed by some significant margin. It was a close game and it would have been closer had the refs called
a) the PI where the flag was thrown and then taken back, as Roundtree was tackled before the ball arrived, which cost us the drive.
b) the PI on the pick in the red zone, which probably cost us at least 3 points.
c) the no-TD call on the Hemingway miracle catch. How that wasn't originally considered a Touchdown is beyond me. You could make a case for the ball being loose, but much like Calvin Johnson against Chicago, how can you look someone in the eye and say "Not a catch".
d) the PI at the end, which cost us a TD.
Yeah, Borges was terrible and the whole insertion of Devin in the offense did nothing but waste valuable plays, but we aren't Alabama or LSU. We are a team that is going to make some mistakes. What we didn't need was the officiating crew swinging a close game in the home team's favor.
November 5th, 2011 at 6:04 PM ^
...PI non-call vs. Round tree on a slant over the middle. So make it four non-PIs and the one non-TD.
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November 5th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^
Offensive miscues didn't help, but the refs certainly won that game for Iowa. First with the PI non call that led to Denard's ugly fumble the next play, then the PI non call that turned into a deflected pick in the enzone, THEN the non call TD that CLEARLY was a TD, then to kick us when we're down, yet another PI non call to finish the game.
November 5th, 2011 at 6:01 PM ^
...heard it from a friend that on the walk back upfield, the Iowa DB was telling the ref he knew where he lived, and he'd be paying a visit if he didn't pick up the flag and never throw another the rest of the game.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:51 PM ^
Enough said. We had too many stupid plays, and silly coaching errors.
November 5th, 2011 at 5:31 PM ^
Actually we did play well enough to win. If we don't get jobbed on the last series we could well have tied the game and won in OT.
I know we made mistakes but I can't stand that "didn't play well enough to win" mantra you hear after these games. Fact is a lot of these games have mistakes, and they are close. We could have won.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:51 PM ^
not so gorgeous anymore. seems like he craps down his leg at the away games. seriously, how can every damn person watching the game realize that devin coming in just screws up momentum and isn't fooling anyone, yet borges doesn't see it? also, how sad is it that probably the worst commentator and ex-ohio player could be a better coordinator for us after seeing all of 2 games? roll the fuckin qb out and let him run or throw. you've got another entire season with denard and he's NEVER going to be a good pocket passer. you can revert back when morris arrives. just more stupid ass people making way more money than they should be.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:53 PM ^
We're not a juggernaut, so we're not going to just dominate teams just because "THIS IS MICHIGAN." If the refs call that fairly at the end (or throughout the game), we definitely go to a 2-PT conversion, and perhaps overtime.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:53 PM ^
We went 0-4 from the 2-yard line. Do you really think we were magically going to get it together on 2 consecutive plays? We didn't play well and lost. End of story.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:57 PM ^
We DID get it on 2 consecutive plays, but the Refs blew it both times
November 5th, 2011 at 4:03 PM ^
1/3 actually. Unless you're as blind or unknowledgabe about the game of football as the refs are.
November 5th, 2011 at 4:05 PM ^
in a television, so you can actually watch the games we discuss here.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:53 PM ^
We certainly did play crappy today...I'm most upset about that. Our offense for some reason is getting shut down as we get into the meat of the B1G season...like in recent years. We came out flat AGAIN; our week-to-week inconsistency is frustrating.
But the bottom line is that we were still in a position to score a touchdown, get a two-point conversion and tie the game, then play OT. HOWEVER, one poor call and one badly-missed call at the end of the game compromised that for us.
For the record, I think one replay view absolutely shows Hemingway hitting the ground OOB didn't disturb his possession of the ball after he clearly established possession in the endzone. Hence, touchdown.
November 5th, 2011 at 4:02 PM ^
Make that *two* badly missed calls at the end of the game...
November 5th, 2011 at 4:16 PM ^
because for some reason Borges made this team a predictable i-formation team for 3 quarters. It made no damn sense at all. His playcalling was poor in the MSU game as well, even though I think MSU's defense did play well in that game.
November 5th, 2011 at 4:19 PM ^
because for some reason Borges made this team a predictable i-formation team for 3 quarters. It made no damn sense at all. His playcalling was poor in the MSU game as well, even though I think MSU's defense did play well in that game.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^
Stop bitching about the refs. You sound like a bunch of fucking Penn State fans.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:54 PM ^
At least denard had that really nice throw to tacopants there in the 4th. His accuracy was tremendous