RickAndScott

December 13th, 2013 at 10:55 PM ^

No one has ever had to "earn" the No. 2 jersey before. Only one guy - Braylon - "earned" the No. 1 jersey. All previous No. 1's came in from high school with it.

You don't even know your history and yet you are telling people what should and shouldn't be put on a pedestal.

 

GVSUGoBlue

December 14th, 2013 at 12:00 AM ^

First of all, don't personally insult me. Whatever I post on this blog is obviously my OPINION and I have every right to believe whatever I want. Secondly, RichRod screwed up and gave away the 1 and 2 jerseys when they should have been earned. That is my OPINION. We are all here on this blog voicing our own beliefs. You can believe that 1 and 2 should be given to freshman the moment they arrive on campus. That's totally fine. That's your personal opinion. Just chill out man.

GVSUGoBlue

December 14th, 2013 at 12:20 AM ^

I might be a little drunk, and I could very well be interpreting things wrong. If I did just get a little sensitive I apologize. I just felt a little hostility in the comment about my lack of knowledge in Michigan history. What I'm trying to say is that I personally believe that #1 and #2 should be earned and not given. I don't believe that they need to be a freak of nature athlete in order to achieve it, but I do like the idea of a player proving something on the field first. For example, I believe Gallon achieved #1 status heading into this year. 

Victor Valiant

December 13th, 2013 at 9:16 PM ^

Fantastic pic. On a side note, on the Moe Ways sleeper comments, I saw him play once this year when they played Escanaba, my alma mater. Escanaba is a town of 13K in the U.P. of Michigan. It's a team comprised entirely of slow, small, white kids. Ways looked sluggish and unmotivated. It was a close game, so he should have been getting targets, but he got maybe 6 all game. I couldn't tell if it was because his team just did a terrible job of working him into the game plan or he just didn't care to dominate. His QB, Tyler Wiegers, looked terrible. Other than great size and a tight spiral, I cannot see how that dude is getting quality D1 offers. Almost all of his passes sailed and consistently failed to find open receivers. I know, I know, small sample size. 

Back to ways though, I'm hoping the game was just an outlier. It does worry me though. If you can't dominate and don't look explosive against a bunch of 5'8 kids that run 4.9, I'm not sure you're going to do much at Michigan. 

 

WolvinLA2

December 14th, 2013 at 12:29 AM ^

Either you're a bad football scout or Country Day played a bad game. Wiegers is a legit Big Ten player. And Ways is really good. Like NFL good. He has such a prototypical WR body. It's possible he didn't give enough effort that game, but that happens with high schools. I'm sure that wasn't a regular thing because his season stats we really good so it sounds like this game was an outlier.

Victor Valiant

December 14th, 2013 at 12:26 PM ^

DCD played a bad game. I've watched more football than I care to admit, and while I'm obviously just an armchair scout, I know talent when I see it. Wiegers is not a quality D1 recruit. I just do not see it. Do not tell me 11/16 162 and 2 TDs is somehow indicative of a quality game. They were playing against a terrible team and I was actually there to see those completions. I am not saying Ways won't pan out either. I'm simply saying that before that game I was high on him but after I was less so. 

Magnus

December 14th, 2013 at 6:21 AM ^

Ways had 5 catches for 105 yards and 1 touchdown in that game. Wiegers was 11/16 for 162 yards and 2 touchdowns. Detroit Country Day was up 28-7 at halftime (and won by a score of 34-7). Not every game is Michigan vs. Indiana where the QB throws for 500 yards and his #1 receiver gets 300 yards. It sounds to me like you're just bitter that DCD beat your alma mater.

EDIT: Also, Ways had 55 catches for 1,261 yards and 16 touchdowns on the year, including 180+ yards in three of his last four games.

Victor Valiant

December 14th, 2013 at 12:14 PM ^

I wasn't bitter at all. Ways looked sluggish and unmotivated. The game was far closer than that score shows. DCD struggled to score and Wiegers looked awful. I don't doubt those were their stats, but those stats are terrible for the competition they were playing. I'm not saying Ways isn't good. I'm saying the one game I saw I was unimpressed. It's a small sample size, but I wasn't the only one. I was with several Michigan fans who follow the team and recruiting closely, and everyone was scratching their head at Ways showing.
The same goes for Wiegers. We were cracking jokes about how Rutgers was too good for him. I'm giving my observations, and just stating that based on them I am worried Ways may disappoint. Please, by all means everyone, continue with the unfunny snark.

WolvinLA2

December 14th, 2013 at 12:42 PM ^

Where's the snark? You said Wiegers looked awful and almost all of his passes sailed, and we're saying he only threw 5 incompletions and averaged over 10 yards per attempt. And almost half of his completions were to Ways, who averaged over 20 yards per catch. DCD struggled to score? They're a high school team who had 28 points in the first half. That's not a lot of struggle. I'm not sure what else you wanted to see.

Victor Valiant

December 14th, 2013 at 1:19 PM ^

They DID struggle to score. They scored with 3:33 to go in the 2nd off a turnover and had a pick-6 as time expired in the 2nd to go up 28-7. You take those two plays away and it's 16-7 not 28-7. The stats/score does not tell the whole story. Wiegers looked bad. Surely you can understand how a QB prospect could look bad while still going 11/16. 

Magnus

December 14th, 2013 at 2:05 PM ^

Ah yes, the good ol' "If you take away the good plays, they didn't have any good plays" argument. I don't really know why scoring with 3:33 to go in the second quarter is relevant. Does the fact that they scored off of turnovers reflect poorly upon Wiegers or Ways? Is it their fault that a DCD linebacker returned an interception 91 yards for a touchdown?

And actually, no, I don't really understand how a high school QB prospect looks bad while going 11/16 for 162 yards and 2 touchdowns. That's an NCAA passer efficiency rating of 195.05 and a completion percentage of 69%. I've been on coaching staffs that have sent quarterbacks on to play BCS and high-level Division II football (I'm not claiming responsibility for their coaching, but just saying that I saw them play weekly), and they would have killed to put up those numbers while looking "bad."

Jammatime

December 13th, 2013 at 10:57 PM ^

I really like Moe's senior highlight tape. One of those guys who are a long strider so he is deceptively fast. He also looks to really have grown into is frame. But, I don't think I hate anyone more than I hate the cowbell fan in his highlight film.

Losher

December 13th, 2013 at 10:58 PM ^

I think Moe has an opportunity to be the slot guy who will come in to get the kind of production that Gallon had. He's got quick feet that will help him get open on the short and intermediate routes out if the slot and those famous bunch formations that Borges likes to run

tybert

December 13th, 2013 at 11:34 PM ^

Rich Hewlett QB - got yanked eventually in 1980 season for John Wangler but played as a special teams guy and holder

Then...Charles...I was at the 1995 Virginia game with my dad and remember the guy nearly jumping a slant route for a pick. Then and there realized that our new #2 was something special.