Photo: Harbaugh in a Michigan hat for the 1st time as HC

You know MGO I didn't get to answer in that thread but in my mind the Browns are the most tragic NFL franchise of all time. Unlike the Lions who have never really come close, except 91, we have been heart wrenchingly close, had our franchise stolen from us by fat man and his coke head kid, had a litany if uninformed meddlesome owners and keep finding a way to make the situation worse with musical chair coaches. My best friend from high school got divorced and in the proceedings fought tooth and nail to keep this crappy shanty he called a house for one reason only - he had painted the basement orange and brown for his beloved browns. He saw manzeil throw his first nfl pass, and he calls me and says, "if I burn this place down the insurance is not enough to be a browns season ticket holder". That, my friends, is the almost mythological frustration of being a browns fan.

I think it was called "The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down"

So you like shit beer? Congrats.

You might be a redneck...is that how the joke goes?

Now let's don't get all crazy and stuff. Lite beer is pisswater.

I like the pretentious artisanal microbrews as much as anybody—hey, I love Heady Topper!—but reading the drinking threads sometimes reminds me of all the kids I knew growing up in Grosse Pointe discussing their stereo equipment or sports cars or skiing destinations.