Is a night game that late in the season possible due to weather?
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Is a night game that late in the season possible due to weather?
It's not in January. What's the big deal?
The big deal is the rule that night games in November cannot happen in the Big Ten Conference.
We live in Michigan fergodsakes. Winter rarely waits until January.
It waited until February this year.
There is no need to validate their existence with a night game. You handle the rivarly games as follows: beat ND & OSU, ignore MSU. - It's really the best way of dealing with them.
Agreed. 3rd rival is not worth a night game. This is a wasted petition is you ask me.
Aren't 99.99% of online petitions wasted petitions?
Won't someone think of the couches?!
Thankfully, STAEE fans and students are used to BYOC
is to get lil bro reved up to think that we have given them "Rival" status. We dont need to play them at night. Save it for a real team.
This is absurd and a tired meme. They are our in-state rival whom we compete against for recruits as well as our main competition for the division title. Not to mention that whole 4 in a row thing.
There are valid concerns about an MSU night game. Yours isn't one of them.
Nebraska will be our year-in year-out best competition for the division title, not MSU.
True. Now tell me where MSU's pipeline is.
I hate this meme almost as much as I hate Sparty. They don't need our validation. They beat us four straight. They played for the Big Ten title, and would have been in the Rose Bowl any year other than 2011.
Validation, but oh how they want it. Like Golum and the precious.
You know what I hate? Saying "they would have went to the Rose Bowl any other year than 2011." It is what whiney Spartans say who are butthurt about having the best 4 year span of their lifetime and still not going to the Rose Bowl. These are the same people who bitch about Michigan going to a BCS bowl when they weren't eligible. Guess what....it was 2011 and they didn't go to the Rose Bowl. Again. They will deserve our respect when they stop judging their success on what Michigan does every year.
Not in favor. I frankly don't trust the MSU or OSU fanbases to come here and behave themselves for a night game - and I especially wouldn't want to have to go to EL or Columbus at night.
Why I don't like the idea of a night game against Ohio or MSU. After the MSU game last year I almost got in a fight with a State fan, and he was obviously trying to get in one with me. I was able to get away from the guy, but I couldn't help to think it would be much worse after a night game. After 7 more hours of drinking, the fans would likely be a lot rowdier. I liked the idea of doing the game against Notre Dame, because the fans are still very dedicated, but they're less aggresive than MSU and OSU fans.
Save Night Games for traditional powers.
Yeah, like ND?
Yeah, like ND.......I feel like you are implying that ND is not a traditional power.
And I feel like he is right.
ND is without doubt a traditional power.
I'd love to see a night game against them next season. This is the game I want to come to all the way from Tennessee, and it would be even better at night.
But I'm in agreement with you- after their last visit under the light of day, I can't imagine them running around town in mass after midnight, after having a full day to drink. Get them home by nightfall.
And pray the moon isn't full.
I can't be fully objectionable to that.
This petition will never work, but I like the idea of playing them under the lights. Anything that will help us win is welcomed, IMO.
What are you talking about? Petititions always work. The Jay Z halftime show during the OSU game was insane this year!!
Love the idea. Makes it alot easier to hide spartan bodies behind portable toilet rows. I fear no fan base coming to town.
They mostly come at night...mostly.
Nice work, Bronson.
How about a petition for no more noon games? Allows students to get up and allows for everyone to eat a quality lunch and not breakfast before the game. 1 and 3o clock games are perfect.
The almighty TV networks have decreed otherwise. The timeslots are noon, 3:30 and evening.
But before you feel too sorry for yourself, consider this: the Big Ten schools in the Central time zone (there are six of them) often have to play games at 11:00 a.m.
Imagine more interested fanbases having to get up to watch their team at 9 am.
I lived in Seattle for 5 years and loved watching the games at 9am on Sat morning. Get up, roll down to the Rocksport and have a large omlette and watch the game. No waiting nervously for kickoff. Then party down all day after a W.
I don't understand why everyone thinks noon is so early. Especially the students who just have to walk over to the stadium.
Because they went to bed at 6AM on Friday night. #collegeproblems
Just don't go to bed until after the game is over. Turn Friday night's party into Saturday morning's tailgate.
I was in Seattle for the San Diego State game visiting a friend. We had too good of a time Friday night to be up at 9am for the game.
Priorities man, priorities.
When did young people start needing so much sleep? I think I spent all of October and November my sophomore year up past 4 am. And I had classes earlier than kickoff. Y'all are getting soft.
No night game for Ohio or STAEE for reasons better articulated above. I would be in favor of a night game against Nebraska, Wisconsin or one of the future PAC games.
Nebraska games are played in November so it can't be against them. Ohio is out as well since they are in November. Agree that night games against ND and PAC would be fun, and also would be great weather as well.
I don't believe there is any guarantee that the Nebraska game will always take place in November. In fact, I would be in favor of moving it up in the schedule, especially in years where we take road trips to both Lincoln and Colombus.
Though the next two years it's back in November. But I think that's scheduling happenstance more than any particular date edict.
for some reason I thought that the Nebraska game was being pushed to the second to last game since we are in the same division (and the two traditional powers in the division). not correct about that, and it seems the November thing was debunked earlier as well.
With annual back to back finishes of Nebraska and OSU. Particularly on years where they're both on the road. Not liking that concept so much. (Though it didn't work out too bady this last year).
Night games vs. PAC teams is a smart move, increases ratings as people are able to tune in from the West Coast. Musch smarter than giving Sparties a whole day to work themselves into a drunken frenzy. If the most recent home game vs MSU is any indication, we need to keep them where we can see them, with the lights on.
If we are going to play OSU at noon for the rest of eternity, and only get ND every other year, why not add a couple of games to the night slate? MSU would be the best candidate. Next in line would be Wisconsin and Nebraska-- I would love these games under the lights. I mean, its not like people are going to demand a night game for the UMass rematch or the crummy directional Michigan schools.
N seems like the least vandalous fanbase, and it's a two-day trip for them anyway, is it not?
RE user name: Is IhatSEC "hate" or "heart" as in the old "I heart dog-head" bumper stickers?
I would like to see a Penn State night game.
I think he means he hats them, like he goes around putting hats on SEC fans.
I actually meant to put "Hate" but typed to fast and submitted it. I asked Brian to change it, but in never happened. I decided not to care too much, since this is kind of funny and the original was pretty lame anyway.
them play! Let them play! Let them play!
DB essentially said a night game would never happen vs MSU because of crowd control and public safety. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Wisconsin, Nebraska, or Iowa over the next few years
Agree. Since MSU and Ohio are out for the obvious reasons, I don't think we should limit the discussion to "rivals only" - which means we will only have night games against ND. In the past few years, Penn State, Iowa, and Northwestern have scheduled us for night games. I wouldn't be against returning the favor against any of them.
I don't think anyone could stand it if there were 5-10 thousand Sparty brahs walking around campus after having a 12ish hours to get wasted before the game. It sounds like a terrible idea.
MSU is the fanbase I'd least like to have in town for a night game
I love the smell of Axe Body Spray/Tear Gas/Vomit in the morning, it smells like victory.
Bro i would definitely like to see the situation there at night bro.. Im 99% certain that bro is as gay as the day is long bro. I would definitely have him at the tailgate, get him super wasted bro, then film him blowing guys in the porta potty bro. Carson Daly maybe? All good bro! Bring on their bro's bro.
I don't understand the anti-night game crowd. It would be a great atmosphere and a spotlight night for the program. Recruits are still talking about the ND game and the energy of the crowd. Hoke might prefer noon games, but they don't move the needle the same way. I just don't see the downside of playing Sparty under the lights. Hoke has ended quite a few streaks already and done things we haven't done in years. This should be the year we return to form against State, and this game is probably the most important one to get to Indy and finally return to the top of the conference.
The game itself against State under the lights would be great. But whatever the outcome, there seems to be more bad blood between Sparty and UM fans which, given a whole day to drink, puts a lot of pressure on the police force and the city itself to maintain peace between both fanbases. I am not saying ND fans aren't passionate, but it's a different kind of passion when it comes to MSU-UM.
it's not like rival SEC fanbases are very polite with each other, yet they play at night all the time. I bet our new friend RDT would back me up on that. I can see that I'm outnumbered on this in these parts, but I still don't understand why Sparty fans will be so much more bearable at 3:30 than 7 or 8. Doesn't seem worth skipping a night game next year to me.
This. Right here. There's no way the AAPD or DPS can cope with the shitstorm STAEE and Ohio fans bring to town for night game.
Based on my impressions, Nebraska fans carried themselves as well as any opposing fans I've ever seen in AA this past year. I suspect PAC fans would be ok - I remember UCLA fans as tolerable in '96.
I like the idea for the game itself. It's going to be a huge game next year, could basically determine the Big Ten champion, and would be an amazing environment under the lights.
The problem, as has been said above, is that Ann Arbor might not survive an all day into the night visit from drunken STAEE fans. It would be a disaster, with tons of property damage, drunk driving, and fighting. Horrible idea. Have the game at noon or 3:30 and get them the hell out of Ann Arbor asap.
Were you there, weren't ya watching? 2004 had pretty much a full half of football under the lights -- with tears of Sparty fallen!
A night game against Sparty would be awesome. Anyone that is worried about it being to cold is a pussy. I bet Hoke would still wear a short sleeved shirt.
Why elevate the Sparty game? It's just Sparty, for crissake. Play it at 9:45 AM on a Tuesday.
There will not be a night game against MSU because Dave Brandon said so. Don't listen to all those blog rumors being spread.
I love how the MSU/Ohio fans are essentially being described as a bunch of wild dogs that when get let lose, upheavel ensues. It's very true though and these folks need to be kept in check. No night game for them.
And if anyone has any good ideas on how to sabotage and/or otherwise undermine this petition/campaign, I'd like to hear them.
Looks like we'll have maybe one night game from 2012 to 2014. Brandon continues to disappoint recently. His resistance to a 4-team playoff, night games, and scheduling home-and-homes is irritating. As interesting as the one-off in Dallas will be, our 2013-2016 schedules up until the Pac-12 relationship begins in 2017 are probably going to be very bland. I hope we don't just play unranked ND teams at night every two years. That is exactly what night games should not be used for.
I don't see how you can be disappointed in his resistance to night games when he was responsible for scheduling one up in the first place. He just wants the night games to be special. Brandon is not the only AD in the country, either, who schedules neutral site games (LSU-Oregon last year).
Let alone the couches.
Ann Arbor does not want to wake up to this on Sunday morning...
I'm the only guy that starts petitions around these parts...
to be fair, i didn't start the petition simply found it and started the thread. you can continue being the petition-master.
When I first game here, my first post was a petition to play night games and everyone thought I was a complete moron (I was a little carried away with the maize jersey thing though, I don't want one of those anymore).
yeah i think i vaguely remember that. i wasn't being a dick or anytying (i was also making a joke ha ha)
I don't care what time of day the game is scheduled. I'll watch it no matter when.
My preference for MSU is a day game, but my preference isn't strong enough that I would sign a petition against a night game.
There is one thing being forgotten . . . Michigan plays in numerous night games, they just aren't all in Ann Arbor. This year, ND, Northwestern, and the Sugar Bowl were all at night, and Illinois could half be called a night game. In past years, Michigan has played at ND at night, as well as Penn State.
I still track with a night game being kind of special. More than that, I'd like to hear the opinion of anyone in public safety or law enforcement regarding a night game against Ohio or Michigan State. Just a bad idea. The violence, fueled and exacerbated by alcohol excess, isn't worth it.
The darkness and the sheer amount of partying time would practially be begging Sparty "fans" to engage in various felonies, misdemeanors, and acts of thuggery. The fire department doesn't have enough extra people for all of the furniture burning that would take place.
No X 1,000.
You should really go easy on the ellipses; this is not MGoSteamofConciousness here.
I think the problem next year is that we really don't have any games to choose from if we don't make the STAEE game a UTL affair. Air Force at night? That's not exactly awe-inspiring. So MSU might be a bad choice, but I'm not sure there's a better one if Brandon is committed to playing a UTL game in 2012
As amazing as a night game atmosphere against State or Ohio would be, its definitely not the best idea, and Brandon will never let it happen. Ohio's for obvious reasons, in November, but I feel like the campus would be absolutely trashed after a full day and night of drinking and fighting between UM and MSU fans. I do support Brandon's decision on that one.
However, I hope Brandon is smart enough to not only schedule Notre Dame for night games. Nebraska would be great, maybe Iowa (if they're good that year), Wisconsin, and USC/Stanford/Oregon when we start playing the PAC-12.
Maybe throw in an SEC home-and-home in there somewhere. Just saying.....
I'd do a night game vs. ND, and Iowa, and Nebraska, and Penn State, and also against the Pac 10 teams. I'm not as sure about Wisconsin . . . I know they put away their beer. I'm also not sure I'd do a night game vs. Illinois. They really don't like Michigan, even if they're not rivals on the same level as Ohio or MSU. Oh, and until we convincingly win against MSU, for say, 10 years, can we put away the "MSU isn't a rival" meme? I don't like them, and they're not on the same level as Ohio, but the fact they've beat us four years in a row certainly makes them a rival.
STOP TAKING SHOTS AT THE D a-hole
HELL TO THA NAW!!!!!
I don't see it really being about the rowdy fan issue.
A night game at Michigan is going to get a lot of coverage and national TV attention. It's an edge for recruiting. When kids see a game like that, they get fired up to go Blue.
I don't think Dave Brandon will EVER share that spotlight with our in-state rival.He'd never even consider it. There's no upside, and plenty of downside.