Petition to fire Al Borges

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November 24th, 2012 at 4:51 PM
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Mturner
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Petition to fire Al Borges

Al Borges is continually bringing us down with bad play calling. He does not put our players in the postion to succeed and it is killing us in our big games. Couldn't score a touchdown against ND, MSU, Nebraska, and the second half aginst OSU. He continually tries to make our players do what they can't do. Running it up the gut with Vinny Smith, or trying to make denard a pro style passer. I know our players don't execute at times, and have turnovers, but he has a lot of the blame on him becuase he is not helping them at all with playing to their skills.

I'm worried what needs to be done never will becuase Borges's ineptitude is covered up by weaker big 10 teams and soft non conference oponents inflating our record. 

 

 

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November 24th, 2012 at 4:52 PM | Just shut up (Score:5 Normal)
Geaux_Blue
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This is embarrassing garbage from our fanbase. Grow up. God.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:02 PM | It will only get worse as the (Score:4 Normal)
TheLastHoke
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It will only get worse as the day goes on. 

I can't wait for the inevitable, "Now that we've had some time to think about the game rationally, and divorce ourselves from it, FIRE BORGES!" post in 3 hours.

HOKEAMANIA RUNNIN' WILD

Formerly, TheLastProphet

November 24th, 2012 at 5:14 PM | These posts do tend to come (Score:2 Normal)
WMUgoblue
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These posts do tend to come in waves, even when some of them have valid points they get lost in the congestion of 12 new threads. Beware, it is coming....

Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:14 PM | Second. (Score:3 Underrated)
backtoblu
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Second.

November 24th, 2012 at 4:53 PM | If you think an online (Score:5 Normal)
SAvoodoo
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If you think an online petition is going to get Borges fired you're an idiot.  Everyone knows David Brandon doesn't give a shit what the fans think.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:01 PM | This (Score:3 Normal)
ÆonBlue
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"Everyone knows David Brandon doesn't give a shit what the fans think."

Absolutely this.

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November 24th, 2012 at 8:23 PM | Especially when the fans (Score:0 Normal)
November 25th, 2012 at 12:17 PM | The opposite of the truth.... (Score:1)
cigol
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He cares entirely about what the fans want.  Your mistake is that you think that the "fans" are represented by 1,000 blog followers who think that adding one layer of extra piping to a jersey  or playing music over the speakers is the equivalent of deficating on Yost's grave.

He is a business man that focuses on the demands of his entire customer base.  Trust me, if over half of the base felt the way that many on this blog feels, he'd do just as you like.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:06 PM | AD's dont fire coordinators (Score:4 Normal)
Nick
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only head coaches do.

I would doubt Dave Brandon would even think of doing it himself, much less pressuring Hoke to fire him.

I'm not a Borges fan, but I don't know firing him is the right thing to do either for purposes of continuity and the fact that the spread era is pretty much officially over starting next year.

November 24th, 2012 at 4:54 PM | signed, Mike Debord (Score:2 Normal)
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signed,

Mike Debord

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

- Vince Lombardi

November 24th, 2012 at 4:57 PM | i won't take you seriously (Score:5 Normal)
VictorValiant
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i won't take you seriously until you set up a firealborges.com website.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:45 PM | Done son.  Looks like someone (Score:4 Normal)
Buccaneer_9
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Done son.  Looks like someone has taken your idea and run with it.

The Dalai Lama: "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun". (May 15, 2001, The Seattle Times)

November 24th, 2012 at 4:59 PM | Jesus... (Score:1 Normal)
SpreadGuru
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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO CHILL THE FUCK OUT. None of you have any answers, only 20/20 hindsight.

"Forty-two Big Ten Championships!"

November 24th, 2012 at 5:08 PM | I don't agree with this (Score:3 Normal)
Logan
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I don't agree with this thread but your second sentence is complete b.s.  Go check the game thread, that's not 20/20 hindsight.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:00 PM | Excellerate? (Score:3 Normal)
SalvatoreQuattro
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Have you ever heard of a dictionary?

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

November 24th, 2012 at 5:50 PM | Must be... (Score:3 Normal)
wolpherine2000
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...some kind of energy drink.

As a matter of fact I like beer.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:00 PM | Who (Score:2 Normal)
THISISMICHIGAN33
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Who would the top candidates for the job? Go pay Cam Cameron a bunch of money to come.

THIS IS MICHIGAN

November 24th, 2012 at 5:10 PM | Exactly. If Borges is still (Score:0 Trolling)
November 24th, 2012 at 5:00 PM | Yes, the University of (Score:3 Normal)
NYC Blue
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Yes, the University of Michigan requires some anonymous idiot posting internet petitions to "save" itself because only some guy "MTurner" has the key to saving the 100+ year history of Michigan football.

This is why it is better to turn off your internet connection until you sober up.

 

November 24th, 2012 at 5:12 PM | His name is Marshall Turner. (Score:2 Normal)
SalvatoreQuattro
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His name is on the petition.



"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

November 24th, 2012 at 5:21 PM | Wow. I've taken classes with (Score:2 Normal)
russale2012
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Wow. I've taken classes with this guy......

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November 24th, 2012 at 5:08 PM | Well said. (Score:-1 Overrated)
November 24th, 2012 at 5:49 PM | What argument was made to (Score:-1 Flamebait)
November 24th, 2012 at 6:12 PM | I was telling my wife (Score:4 Normal)
Kermits Blue Key
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I was telling my wife during the game that I could grab the playsheet and call better plays than Borges as long as I could determine the formations from it and knowing nothing else.  I stand by that statement. How does Borges not know by now that his interior O-line is not very good and that I-form/interior plays will not be very successful against OSU?

November 24th, 2012 at 6:43 PM | Well, I may have (Score:2 Normal)
NYC Blue
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Well, I may have underestimated you and I apologize for that.  That is a real skill- you should take advantage of it.  The good news is that there are likely to be 10-20 openings at the end of this year for Division I offensive coordinator positions.  Generally, they pay very well.

Having the skill to be OC for a major program such as Michigan with a complex offense would put you in a good position for any of those openings.  I think you should put together your tape from this game along with your play calls and send it off. 

I have been surfing the web, and there are an awful lot of bad OCs out there who seem not to know how to call plays.  I think that you could really help a lot of these programs. (not to mention making quite a bit of money for yourself)

November 24th, 2012 at 6:27 PM | Just in case anyone's wondering... (Score:3 Normal)
jhender85
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I didn't actually reply to the post it looks like I did. My condescending response was to a post that for some reason only shows on the mobile app, most likely because that user is a troll. I'm not as big of a douche as my comment may imply.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:02 PM | Petition? (Score:3 Interesting)
salami
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Is this on the white house's website?

November 24th, 2012 at 5:03 PM | Oh yeah, (Score:0 Normal)
November 24th, 2012 at 5:04 PM | I agree (Score:3 Normal)
Soulfire21
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He struggles in marquee games (Alabama, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Ohio State).

His playcalls are inexcusable.  He's got two huge threats in Devin and Denard, so what does he do?  Hand off to the tailback, up the middle.  Hand off to the tailback, up the middle.

Great gameplan with Devin and Denard in against Iowa to roll up 42 points, what does he do in the 2nd half?  Rotate in Denard/Devin each play, killing off any momentum either of them would've gained and making our offense insanely predictable:  Devin's in, they throw/hand off run up the middle; Denard in, they run.

Michigan is an elite football program, we need an elite offensive coordinator.  Maybe give him another year with a lot of marquee games at home, see if he can gain any semblance of competence, but if he blows next year, out.

I've got 2/3 of my body in the "Fire Borges" bus.  Let's go.

HAIL.

November 24th, 2012 at 6:09 PM | Yup. I shouldn't be able to (Score:1)
OmarDontScare
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Yup. I shouldn't be able to predict every play on my couch.

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

November 24th, 2012 at 5:04 PM | Okay - but who was (Score:2)
snoopblue
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Okay - but who was responsible for changing the play calls in the second half? Hoke? or Borges? Without knowing that (and you never will) you can't make a rash decision like that.

More sad to see Denard go like that.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:05 PM | FULL DERP ACTIVATED (Score:3 Normal)
estours717
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FULL DERP ACTIVATED

You’re two Reese’s Pieces away from the offensive line.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:10 PM | You are a disgrace to the (Score:5 Normal)
robbyt003
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You are a disgrace to the Michigan fanbase.  Enjoy Bolivia asshole.  

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November 24th, 2012 at 5:12 PM | C'mon (Score:1 Trolling)
BlueSpice.inSEC.hell
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.......stop it - I can go to a LOT of games over the last 4-5 years where we had issues scoring in the second half and BORGES was NOT a coach in many of those instances. Players have to execute, play with discipline and not commit turnovers.  In the second half of this game - We did not do the cumulative sum of any of those three things better

November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 PM | Borges to fire Al Petition? (Score:0 Trolling)
November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 PM | "Yes I went this far.." (Score:5 Normal)
Huss
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Ah, nothing like the sweet smell of seeping douche in the afternoon.  Went this far?  You're a disgruntled fan complaining about playcalling after a loss on an internet message board.  Taking a step outside right now without a t-shirt is more courageous.  Bravo.

I said - not good enough.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 PM | Brian thanks you for contributing to TWIS.* (Score:1)
SalvatoreQuattro
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Fgg

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 PM | We've gone full retard. (Score:1 Normal)
Jeff09
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We've gone full retard.

Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow

November 24th, 2012 at 5:13 PM | Chill out brothers. It's (Score:3 Normal)
M fan in Cincy
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Chill out brothers. It's hugely disappointing that they lost, but the best is yet to come.

Apparently my hypocricy knows no bounds...

November 24th, 2012 at 5:16 PM | Everyone is angry now, but (Score:3 Normal)
blue note
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Everyone is angry now, but just wait until next year when Borges finally gets to unleash all the Rawls halfback dives he wants behind an all sophmore o line. 

November 24th, 2012 at 5:23 PM | Derrick Green come on down (Score:1)
Jeff09
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Derrick Green come on down (plz)

Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow

November 24th, 2012 at 6:10 PM | Blue Note (Score:1)
mgoO
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well played

@owenrosen

November 24th, 2012 at 5:17 PM | Not signing (Score:5 Normal)
TyrannousLex
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I've defended him quite a bit, but the second half was mystifying. It's like the coaches got together at the half and said, "Hey, all that stuff that was working pretty good in the 1st half ... let's do none of that." I just don't understand playing our biggest weakness to their biggest strength. I don't understand so little of both QBs in the backfield together, nor the constant rotation that allowed no one to get into a groove.

All that being said, your petition idea is stupid. (And is probably a good argument for us low point total members not starting threads.)

November 24th, 2012 at 5:18 PM | I (Score:2 Normal)
mcz13
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Completely agree with all of this. A petition won't work, but dang, I'm

Not happy with how the offense was called in the second half

November 24th, 2012 at 5:24 PM | Yes (Score:2 Normal)
Mike420GoBlue
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All of this.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:20 PM | Borges (Score:2 Normal)
Trobdcso
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Stunk...again.

November 24th, 2012 at 5:20 PM | Fire him after two years! (Score:0 Overrated)
November 24th, 2012 at 5:20 PM | Fire him after two years! (Score:0 Redundant)
November 24th, 2012 at 5:37 PM | What? (Score:1)
jblaze
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Where has anybody advocated firing Hoke or Mattison? Don't be a douche.

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November 24th, 2012 at 5:21 PM | This board now looks just (Score:5 Normal)
maizenblue87
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This board now looks just like RCMB. Apparently if we trade our loser (Borges) for Sparty's loser (Roushar) then all will be well for next year.

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