Pete Carroll in Seattle...Thoughts on potential success?

Submitted by clarkiefromcanada on
So, Pete Carroll is going to Seattle for a ton of money. Obviously, he's done well coaching (alleged) amateurs in the NCAA for the past decade. My question is do you all perceive that the last decade has made him a substantially better NFL coach or has Paul Allen just spend a bunch of money on a "name hire" that will work at SC with (alleged) amateurs but not at the next level. I am not a Seahawks fan but I can't help but wonder if they wouldn't have done better with a Leslie Frazier or Ron Rivera (experienced current NFL coordinators) as opposed to Carroll whose last experience in the league was eons ago. Perhaps Allen needed the name to maintain box renewals and seat sales. Best wishes all.
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Buckeye

January 11th, 2010 at 2:19 PM ^

No matter how much i hate him, which is alot, Pete Caroll is a winner. I wouldnt be surprised at all if he was successful, but then again, I wouldnt be surprised if he failed either

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mjv

January 11th, 2010 at 2:35 PM ^

I don't see this working out well for Carroll or the Seahawks. PC succeeded in an environment where he could out recruit the opposition and then beat them with superior talent. That doesn't happen in the NFL. The last really successful college HC to be successful in the NFL I can recall is Jimmy Johnson. And he did that at a time pre-salary cap where the cowboys were willing and able to amass more talent than the opposition. I think that he will be middling at best in the NFL and return to the college ranks within 5 years.

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Jim Harbaugh S…

January 11th, 2010 at 2:38 PM ^

so that is a plus. However, the Seahawks are getting old fast and have been killed by injuries the past few seasons. This is a rebuilding project, gonna need the right pieces through the draft and free agency. I think he will have a rough year or two and then get into playoff contention.

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MichiganExile

January 11th, 2010 at 2:39 PM ^

As a Seahawks fan I am hoping for the same type of results he had in college. I won't hold my breath though. The Seahawks, as an organization, seem to literally be allergic to sustained success.

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Wolverine96

January 11th, 2010 at 2:43 PM ^

I actually think he will be mildly successful. He won't be in the Super Bowl during his tenure, but I can see a visit to the playoffs or two. Reasons for this. He has NFL head coaching and coordinator experience. His style and personality should be able to connect with the NFL egos. My prediction: A 5 year run with 2 playoff appearances and a spot in the TV booth when he quits.

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Drake

January 11th, 2010 at 2:46 PM ^

I dont think he'll be an all world coach or anything but I think he'll be decent. They just have to bring in more talent then whats already there, 2 fist round picks will help with that.

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Yostal

January 11th, 2010 at 2:54 PM ^

Carroll can be successful, and I think he's learned a lot from being at USC over the last decade. He's learned how to manage, and he's learned how to find exceptional coordinator talent, which is critical. Here's one thing I thought of: The pipeline. I realize that every former Trojan can't just head up to Seattle and help him build Troy North at Qwest Field, but I wonder if he wouldn't have interest in a lot of his old guys who have not been optimized in the NFL, such as Leinart, Bush, and others I am sure that could be more readily pointed to by more active fantasy owners than I. I won't say "Reggie Bush goes to Seattle and becomes a 2,000 yard back" or "Matt Leinart reunites with his old coach and becomes the second coming of Drew Brees v. 2.0", but it's an interesting thing. Will loyalty mean something? We saw Parcells go after "Parcells guys" all the time whenever he would move to a new situation, will Carroll go after "Carroll guys" in Seattle? Will he have the power to do so since it does not look like he will be the General Manager. Also, I am going on record, with Carroll taking the job, Monday Night Football next year will include one of the following Seahawks games: Kansas City at Seattle (Weis as KC OC vs. nemesis Carroll as SEA HC) or Seattle at New Orleans (ESPN loves the Superdome, Carroll against Reggie Bush)

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4godkingandwol…

January 11th, 2010 at 3:02 PM ^

... keep him out of college football. Also, as a Seattle resident, it would be nice to see the team improve. These people really love the team (not like Lions fans, mind you), and it would be nice to have a decent product on Sunday's for which to cheer.

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wisecrakker

January 11th, 2010 at 3:25 PM ^

Hopefully, his leaving and the possibility of the USC program being sanctioned will have positive effects on the recruits which were considering Michigan and USC

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Plegerize

January 11th, 2010 at 3:35 PM ^

If granted more power than just head coaching duties. Most people forget that he had an above .500 record in the NFL granted as mediocre as it is at 33-31. However the standards of success aren't as great as say a Dallas or Washington nor is the owner as much of a control freak, so I think Pete will do well in Seattle with the time given.

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Engin77

January 11th, 2010 at 3:37 PM ^

BK accepts the ND job and faster than you can say "Go Irish, Beat SC":
    Pete Carroll leaves for the NFL NCAA sanction rumors swirl around Los Angeles SC blue chip commits start to return other coaches phone calls
BK is one lucky guy.

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PurpleStuff

January 11th, 2010 at 4:05 PM ^

Success in the NFL is all about talent and personnel and with a 53-man roster limit and a hard salary cap there is a lot of luck involved in the personnel department. Pete wasn't all that bad in the NFL the last time around. He only got one year with the Jets (kind of unfair to judge any coach on just one season) and had a winning record over three seasons in New England with 2 playoff appearances. Just about every long time NFL coach, even the great ones, will have huge swings in record/achievement based on personnel. Parcells, Shanahan, Johnson, Cowher, Gibbs, Fisher, and Belichick (not to mention a ton more I'm sure) all coached really good teams and teams that were pretty darn bad. I think Pete is a good enough coach to win in Seattle, but whether or not he does depends a lot more on the players he ends up with than anything he can do as a coach.

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Seth

January 11th, 2010 at 5:12 PM ^

I'll say this for Pete Carroll -- if I ever had to be a member of an Evil Empire, PC certainly made his look more fun than Steinbrenner's or Bowden's or Kruschev's or Darth Vader's. I could never bring myself to hate Pete Carroll. I thought he was a good coach who masterfully parlayed the allure of Hollywood and SC's historical cachet into one of those runs atop college football that can buoy a program a decade or a century later. A new generation who never saw O.J. will think of Reggie Bush and Carson Palmer and Matt Leinhart. Michigan fans will still have nightmares of losing top in-state prospects to a higher power, and defensive lines that could eat Lloyd Carr's well-fed offensive lines. Make no mistake, though, this is curtains for USC. One bad year they could have weathered. And they'll stay in the pre-season rankings for the foreseeable future. But their fire has now gone out of the universe. Hey, anything on the recruit buffet?

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