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January 27th, 2013 at 12:19 PM | Next (Score:2 Normal)
MaizeRage89
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Question!

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January 27th, 2013 at 1:01 PM | Biggest reasons (Score:-1 Offtopic)
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I see two main factors for a spike.  First of all, there aren't any "Michigan men" telling HS coaches not to send their players to Michigan.  Second, I think players perceive a great opportunity for playing time as Hoke retools the team for his style of football.

Ulitmately, though, the Michigan name is always going to be attractive; Michigan is one of the few schools capable of pulling in top ten classes on a regular basis without offering illegal perks.  It's amazing what can happen when a coach has the full resources of the program.

 

 

 

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January 27th, 2013 at 1:36 PM | How could ANYONE want Dantonio? (Score:2)
JamieH
Joined: 09/05/2009
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Remember, he was the Defenisve Cooridinator at OSU during the Robert Reynolds choking Jim Sorgii incident.  He refused to punish Reynolds and esentially condoned the play, which is still one of the most despicable and cowardly things I've ever seen done on a Div 1-A football field.

Dantonio has no class or integrity of any kind.  He runs an undisciplined, "inmates run the asylum", WIN AT ALL COSTS program.  He is the anthesis of what Michigan is.  I'm hard pressed to come up with more than a handful of coaches I would want here LESS than him. 

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January 27th, 2013 at 2:46 PM | He also didn't punish Tommy (Score:1)
BigBlue02
Joined: 06/29/2009
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He also didn't punish Tommy Gholston and made the B10 do it after the head twist/throat punh game.  I remember MSU fans loved it because he "stuck up for his players" because Lewan was racist and was grabbing his facemask.

Dantonio is a perfect fit for that fanbase if you ask me.

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January 27th, 2013 at 5:34 PM | Fair enough. I wasnt aware (Score:0)
VelikovskysDog
Joined: 09/10/2009
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Fair enough. I wasnt aware of any of that

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:18 PM | um he was already at state (Score:0)
bostonsix
Joined: 01/01/2013
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When RR was hired so ur an idiot if u think he would have switched over to Michigan, let alone the alumnus and fanbase reaction would have sent him packing faster than RR did.

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For those about to block! We recruit you!

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January 27th, 2013 at 5:31 PM | Um youre the idiot. Carr (Score:0)
VelikovskysDog
Joined: 09/10/2009
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Um youre the idiot. Carr was getting smoked by Carr. Around 2005 the move shouldve been made. Instead Carr stayed on two more years when everyome knew he wa supposed to leave. That when recruitimg took a major hit. Then in 2007 came R R

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January 27th, 2013 at 3:11 PM | Fools, all of you. Of course (Score:2)
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Fools, all of you. Of course Dantonio hates recruiting. Recruiting is a huge waste of time for him, cuz it don' matter who he git, he jus gon' coach em up and beat y'all anyway...

Sorry. Slid into my sarcasm voice there for a second. Why my sarcasm voice sounds like a southerner from the 1930s, I don't know.

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January 27th, 2013 at 5:17 PM | Yeah, many of you will slam (Score:1)
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Joined: 12/17/2009
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Yeah, many of you will slam me for this, but I think the whole obsession over recruiting is overrated.  You don't know  until you see them play against others on this level.    The recruiting rankings are completely overrated.   I am glad Michigan got Green, but I would like to see him actually play before doing a happy dance all over the place.     And trusting what rivals.com says is like trusting what ESPN has to say.  There are agendas abound there and I just don't buy what they say.    Good luck to the kid, I hope he excels, but I know people who actually lose sleep over recruiting season - and I think that is silly.   

"Those who stay will be asked to produce their ticket stub"

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January 27th, 2013 at 5:38 PM | Well, you could be in the (Score:1)
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Well, you could be in the middle.  I follow recruiting, I get excited when we have (for what seems like in the moment) success, and I am able to not lose sleep over the process.

People do take it too seriously (see the adults who tweet/interact with recruits), though, so that's definitely too much.

HAIL.

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January 27th, 2013 at 6:00 PM | This isn't slamming you, but (Score:2)
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This isn't slamming you, but there have been good analyses posted recently showing that the recruiting services seem to be predictive of success at both the college and NFL level.  So while, you're right, that many highly-recruited kids won't pan out, the odds of a 5-star panning out are considerably higher than a 4-star player, and they're much more likely to pan out than a 3-star player.

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January 27th, 2013 at 6:06 PM | What bothers me is what if (Score:1)
Copey1050
Joined: 12/17/2009
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What bothers me is what if Derrick Green just turns out to be a good player?   What if he is not an All-American?   Are some people going to take shots at him?   Call him a failure?   I am sure some will, and that's unfair to him.    Some of these guys are so completely superior to who they play against in high school that it makes scouts drool, but until they play against guys that are just as big as they are, that have the same relative speed they do, and with the spotlight of national TV and 110,000 watching in person, we just don't know.      There are so many "busts" and it's because there almost seemed to be a competition in building someone up rather than evaluation what they are.    I know there is always going to be a ratings system, but I just wish we'd all stop looking at it like it's some kind of word of God measurment (and I am an atheist).   And it works the other way too.   Jake Ryan was a very under-the-radar type of recruit, wasn't he?   That guy was not supposed to be fast enough.   He may not win in too many foot races, but damn if he is not the fastest reactionary player on the defense.    Again, I wish Mr. Green well.  I hope he is as good as some think and I hope he represents the school well in his personal life and attitude, but I don't have any expectation of him - he is righ tin the middle of the scale to me because he has yet to prove anything.   

"Those who stay will be asked to produce their ticket stub"

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January 27th, 2013 at 7:06 PM | It is MICHIGAN (Score:1)
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Joined: 02/18/2009
MGoPoints: 469

Even an average saleman can sell water in the desert.

 

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