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Pentagram's Explanation of the LOGO

 

From the designer of the logo - some of the logo's look better in their work - and the abbreviated logo with a different color - but really? 

 

New Work: Big Ten Conference

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The Big Ten Conference is the U.S.’ oldest and largest Division I college athletic association. Founded in 1896, the conference is comprised of schools located mainly in the Midwest and includes world-class academic institutions such as Ohio State, Michigan State, Penn State, Purdue, Northwestern, and University of Wisconsin–Madison. Big Ten schools compete at the highest level of NCAA competition in basketball and football, and over the past decade the Big Ten has led all conferences with national titles in different sports including volleyball, track and field, cross country, wrestling, hockey, soccer, tennis and golf. Despite its name, the conference has included 11 member schools since Penn State joined in 1990, and it will add University of Nebraska – Lincoln as its 12th member in July 2011.

Pentagram’s Michael Gericke (a graduate of the University of Wisconsin) and Michael Bierut (husband of 30 years to an Ohio State alumna) have designed the new logo for the conference, announced today. The conference’s previous logo hid an “11” in the negative space around the “T” in “Ten.” The new logo evolved from this use of negative space and is built on the conference’s iconic name without reference to the number of member institutions. “Seeing two numbers at once is clever, but it means redesigning the logo every time the conference expands,” says Bierut. “It was time for something direct and simple.” The resulting logo features contemporary collegiate lettering with an embedded numeral “10” in the word “BIG,” which allows fans to see “BIG” and “10” in a single word.

“The new logo was developed to symbolize the conference’s future, as well as its heritage and tradition of competition,” says Gericke. “Going forward, fans will know The Big Ten will always be the Big Ten.”

“The new Big Ten logo provides a contemporary identifying mark unifying twelve outstanding institutions,” said Big Ten Commissioner James E. Delany. “It conveys some elements from the past while simultaneously introducing new features. We think the new logo is fun and has something for everyone.”

 

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December 14th, 2010 at 9:59 PM | I'm sorry (Score:1)
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The author lost me at:

...world-class academic institutions such as Ohio State, Michigan State...

I have a Fandom Endurance III merit badge

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December 15th, 2010 at 12:31 AM | fixed it (Score:1)
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...world-class academic institutions and also Ohio State, Michigan State...

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December 15th, 2010 at 2:00 AM | Wow, they had the balls to (Score:1)
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Wow, they had the balls to put in MSU and leave out Michigan.  That has to be a typo.

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December 14th, 2010 at 9:59 PM | Everyone will eventually get (Score:1)
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Everyone will eventually get used to this design, and it will be like it never changed in the first place.

And so flow the sands of time, erasing our memories, replacing them with . . . . the present.

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:37 PM | Agreed.... Now if they had (Score:1)
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Agreed....

Now if they had only named the Divisions "RO*TEL" and "Velveeta" ... 

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December 15th, 2010 at 3:13 AM | Big Ten Conference (Score:1)
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The problem is that the Big Ten Conference is the United States' oldest Division I college athletic conference.   Our new logo is a bit off and the division names are terrible. 

Last week I was in Kentucky (had a fantastic time) and I was just reading a University of Kentucky blog about the Big Ten division names.  It was a bit painful to read.  I'd rather not reference their suggestions.  (I now know what Luke Wilson's character in Idiocracy felt like.)  My point is that the Big Ten is a highly respected conference with history and these changes are not getting us any more respect.

"luminous beings are we, not this crude matter"

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December 15th, 2010 at 2:43 PM | If it is the blog I ran across, (Score:1)
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I thought that the most stinging were:

Vanity and Hubris

Pomp and Circumstance

How can these names do anything other than make the B1G Ten look elitist?

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:00 PM | ... (Score:1)
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context indeed.

 
 

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:03 PM | I still see (Score:1)
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a 6 instead of a 0.

No excuses. Play like a champion.

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:16 PM | I still see a G. (Score:1)
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I still see a G.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:25 PM | I see a shit bad embarrassing (Score:1)
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I see a shit bad embarrassing logo that appears to be designed by a couple of 7th graders with photoshop on their dad's PC and 15 minutes to kill before class.

 

 

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December 15th, 2010 at 1:07 AM | I don't (Score:1)
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I am of the opinion that a couple of 7th graders would design a far superior logo in 15 minutes.

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December 15th, 2010 at 12:03 AM | me too (Score:1)
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maybe they're just waiting for a 16 team league...

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December 15th, 2010 at 11:54 AM | Yeah, people already thought of that (Score:1)
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So what does our new logo look more like? A 12 team conference, or this?-

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December 15th, 2010 at 4:28 PM | I like it.  Prefer the normal (Score:1)
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I like it.  Prefer the normal blue color.  

 

Fuzy247's is cool too

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:04 PM | Honestly, how do you include (Score:1)
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Honestly, how do you include Michigan State in world class academic institutions but not Michigan?  The only Big Ten school academically superior to Michigan is Northwestern.  As mentioned above, that was the point I stopped reading as well.

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:47 PM | Notice the guys' loyalties... (Score:1)
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And then notice that Wisconsin's main rivals, Minnesota and Iowa, were also left out.

LSA '11

App State to Miss State

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December 14th, 2010 at 11:04 PM | Well, I actually get that part, unprofessional thought it might (Score:1)
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be. Why the Conference would let that stand defies logic. The more I think about Delaney's "something for everyone", the madder I get. The something for me will be remembering this, and the sorry excuse for a logo will forever remind me of it.

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December 15th, 2010 at 12:08 AM | Northwestern? (Score:1)
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I wouldn't just concede that Northwestern is "academically superior." Particularly when it is qualified as "world-class," it might be good to expand your research beyond the slop US News and World Report throws in front of you.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2010-2011/top-200.html

#15 Michigan

#25 Northwestern

Go Blue!

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:05 PM | Explanation... (Score:1)
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It was their best effort.

I'm neutral on it.  

Wolverine Nation Unite!

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:05 PM | The real explanation: (Score:1)
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"So, we totally thought it was due next week, but the conference was all like, 'no, it's due tomorrow, and we won't grant any extensions.' So we had to throw something together, cause we can't have an F on our transcript."

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:07 PM | Bryan (Score:1)
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Thank you, that was my first impression also.  

Then you get to the part about the owner/alums backgrounds. Sneeeeeeeeeeeeecky Wisky, tOsu tie ins.

My second thought was "M is not mentioned.  Ding, ding, ding, ding. I see what happened there!

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:12 PM | You're welcome (Score:1)
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Those were my thoughts when I went back to read it as well. 

When a designer has to explain something, they have already failed. I think the new PAC10/12 logo has set the standard, and the B1G logo looks pathetic in comparison. 

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December 15th, 2010 at 2:34 AM | Just don't do it (Score:1)
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New PAC 10 logo is far better than their old sunshine logo.  

I'm grateful that the Big Ten logo doesn't have a bunch of swooshes. Just because it worked for Nike doesn't mean every company needs to put a swoosh into their logo.

 

"luminous beings are we, not this crude matter"

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:07 PM | "Something for everyone." (Score:1)
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There you have it- the direct path usually taken to the land of bland and boring.

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:07 PM | I honestly don't mind the one (Score:1)
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I honestly don't mind the one word B1G logo in two colors, like on the flash drive.

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:12 PM | That's because it's a 1G (Score:1)
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That's because it's a 1G drive.  I see what they did there.

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:14 PM | Concur (Score:1)
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The multi-color one is much better than the one announced yesterday - just having some contrast.... And frankly,  after the dust settles soon, will it really matter? 

I do not worry about the Big 10 logo, only Big 10 championships.   The name for the divisions? Stupid - perhaps - but who really cares.  What matters is that we always play OSU.   Besides, in a few years, the division names will be sold corporately...it is inevitable. 

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December 15th, 2010 at 2:27 AM | ...so you're saying there's a chance... (Score:1)
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for Rotel and Velveeta afterall?

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December 15th, 2010 at 11:53 AM | Meh (Score:1)
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And at that point, anybody with heartburn or lactose intolerance will probably just up and peace out

Go Blue! Always.

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December 14th, 2010 at 11:00 PM | Yeah, I agree. (Score:1)
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Much better than the full version... but still way too much like Gatorade.

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December 14th, 2010 at 11:54 PM | agree (Score:1)
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that should just be the logo.  screw the "ten" part.

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December 15th, 2010 at 12:58 AM | Agreed (Score:1)
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Here's my 5 minutes of work in paint with a little modification.  I think the G as a 0 thing is too much of a stretch.  Just make the logo B10.  I darkened up the blue and found a font that looked ok.  I don't love this, but I think it's better.

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December 15th, 2010 at 2:32 AM | I like the B10... (Score:1)
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... and it looks like BIO like Biology, so naturally we should call the two divisions:

Methane and Ethanol

or Beef and Cheese

or Corn and Beans

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December 15th, 2010 at 11:55 AM | Spicy tomatoes and processed (Score:1)
rcm
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Joined: 09/16/2009
MGoPoints: 475

Spicy tomatoes and processed cheese-substitute?

/dead horse

Go Blue! Always.

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:09 PM | after seeing that sports bottle (Score:1)
baorao
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Joined: 08/08/2008
MGoPoints: 501

all I can see is a plagiarized Gatorade G Series logo.

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:12 PM | B10? (Score:1)
KevbosLastingLessons
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Joined: 08/23/2010
MGoPoints: 2600

Bingo!

Final Four Thoughts!

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:12 PM | The logo is just horrible. (Score:1)
RickH
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Joined: 11/01/2009
MGoPoints: 948

The logo is just horrible.  Can they please admit they fucked up and change it?

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:13 PM | I actually don't mind the new (Score:1)
Fat Mike
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Joined: 11/10/2009
MGoPoints: 438

I actually don't mind the new logo it's just the color scheme. I think it would look better with just B1G and leave the Ten off

“The blue in our ribbons may fade, our trophies may become tarnished, the gleam of our medals lose luster, but the emotional experiences of joy and elation will never be forgotten.”

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:14 PM | It's not a 10 (Score:1)
WorldBPelekoudas
Joined: 03/12/2009
MGoPoints: 66

It just isn't. One doesn't see what they say one is meant to see. It's a failure. A dog's breakfast. It looks like ass.

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:20 PM | Non-Michigan Math (Score:1)
Michigasling
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Joined: 11/21/2009
MGoPoints: 3278

“Going forward, fans will know The Big Ten will always be the Big Ten.”

Oh, I get it.  That's why they only mentioned 7 of 12 the schools, and three of them twice. 

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:23 PM | Meh. (Score:1)
MGoAndy
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Joined: 07/22/2008
MGoPoints: 1686

I'll admit it looks way better on the court than it does standing alone.

Still awful.

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:32 PM | Did I just read the word (Score:1)
Webber's Pimp
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Joined: 09/12/2010
MGoPoints: 1572

Did I just read the word "academics" in the same sentence as Ohio State and Michigan State? Is this from The Onion?

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:37 PM | Seriously - does it really matter? (Score:1)
GustaveFerbert
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Joined: 12/13/2008
MGoPoints: 1066

Is it really that big of a deal that it sucks?   So long as these designers are not hired by UM to mess with crap, then it is ok by me... Just do not mess with the UM brand. 

- Dutch

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:38 PM | It looks like it took 5 (Score:1)
UMxWolverines
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MGoPoints: 5245

It looks like it took 5 minutes to make. and it doesn't look like B10 at all

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:39 PM | Dear Pentagram/Big Ten: (Score:1)
Sgt. Wolverine
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Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 3523

A G isn't going to be seen as a 0, no matter how hard you try.  It's going to be seen as a 6 because that's what it most closely resembles.  Stop trying to convince the rest of the world that reality isn't real.

Sportscenter.com raves: Sgt. Wolverine, "Michigan's biggest fan"!

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:41 PM | Oooh, a flash drive! (Score:1)
BlockM
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Joined: 07/03/2008
MGoPoints: 25313

Oooh, a flash drive!

@pnbloem | Ultra-MGoBoard

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:42 PM | Just because they hid the 11 (Score:1)
philibuster
Joined: 08/10/2009
MGoPoints: 2896

Just because they hid the 11 in the last  logo doesn't mean you have to hide some numbers in this logo, Mr. Gericke.

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:43 PM | Pre penn-state logo (Score:1)
MgoMatt
Joined: 10/24/2008
MGoPoints: -102

How do you think it compares to the old logo?

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December 14th, 2010 at 10:53 PM | How dare you insult my work! (Score:1)
1484
Joined: 06/21/2010
MGoPoints: 14241

Edit.  How bout them Cowboys...

Hail.

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