a Pennlive article of U Meyers recruiting lies
Some of these are new to me, re: Harvin and the Pouncy twins. Just based on this article Urban Meyer is a pretty slick. Well just read the article and you be the judge.
http://blog.pennlive.com/endzone/2011/12/was_urban_myer_telling_lies_to.html
December 24th, 2011 at 1:10 PM ^
December 24th, 2011 at 2:57 PM ^
Boy that Coed is really hot....If you can lie to your wife, you can lie to anyone...
December 24th, 2011 at 5:54 PM ^
At Ohio there will be a lot less of this...
and a lot more of that:
December 25th, 2011 at 5:08 AM ^
Oh theres Tebow. Hes not interested in getting with the ladies, not until hes married at least.
December 24th, 2011 at 1:11 PM ^
as an actual Mgoblog article? The only stuff in that article is taken from an article he quotes as from 'Mgoblog'.
Or should I curtail the holiday booze? No, forget that...
December 24th, 2011 at 1:18 PM ^
I don't think it was an article. He just cited a board post as an Mgoblog article. I love you guys but I don't know how comfortable I would be using you guys as official sources...
Edit: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/will-urban-meyer-be-caught-another-tangle-l…
By cited I mean copied and pasted the whole post. Also, he doesn't know how to spell Urban Meyer.
December 24th, 2011 at 1:16 PM ^
probably right I just did not see the previous post. I nvite the mods to delete if the post is redundant. Merry Christmas
December 24th, 2011 at 1:28 PM ^
I say keep the post for laughs. How can this guy use message board posts and say they were reported in a "Michigan football publication?"
If I was Brian I'd actually be upset. Aren't there disclaimers when you sign up for a message board that say posts on the board don't reflect the views of the website? Yet, this guy said it was reported by Mgoblog. The stuff in the post is mostly rumors and heresay, fine for message board speculation but possible libel if stated as fact...
December 24th, 2011 at 11:04 PM ^
Or as that PennLive author put it.....MGO BLOG
December 24th, 2011 at 1:18 PM ^
I dont think Urban liar ever oversigned, ill give him that. However he does lie, but he had to lie because every SEC coach is a liar.
December 24th, 2011 at 1:29 PM ^
he did make a big stink about "other SEC schools practice of oversigning. That being said I read cannot remember where but Urban has his own way of trimming the roster of guys he's not interested in. Sorry no sources, or references. The jist of the insider post was Urban challenged his players to leave now if they don't want to be at Florida. Then he locked the all of the players in a gym and ran them until he "thined" the herd as it were. don't quote me but I remember reading that on a Florida board from a self proclaimed insider, other posters seem to support his claims. FWIW
December 24th, 2011 at 1:33 PM ^
3&O said Rodriguez did the exact same thing, so I don't really think we can complain about that.
December 24th, 2011 at 1:35 PM ^
RR is gone. He is not our coach. So, sure, we can complain. And, because rr is gone, it is not hypercritical.
December 24th, 2011 at 1:45 PM ^
Three and Out said that RR did that with players who refused to show up in shape. Bo did the same thing, and I'm assuming Carr and Moeller did as well (and I hope Hoke also would).
There's a huge difference between disciplining guys who violate team rules and what the post above alleges Meyer did.
December 24th, 2011 at 1:56 PM ^
Nowhere in bluesouth's original comment did it specify who Urban did it to. It says he "locked all the players in the gym" and "thinned the herd." This happens at every school, probably almost every year. It gets players who aren't keeping up their fitness off the team without being a weasel and telling a kid "you aren't good enough" and revoking their scholarship.
Also, there's a difference between kids not keeping up with off-season workouts and coming in out-of-shape (what 3&O alleges), and "punishing kids for violating team rules." Those kids may not have been giving 100% and letting their teammates down, but they were not violating team rules. I can't speak to the original article bluesouth alludes to but what he laid out sounds virtually identical to what RichRod did. (Which I see nothing wrong with, for the record.) In fact, one could argue RichRod more directly targeted guys he wished were gone, whereas Urban put his entire team through it.
December 24th, 2011 at 2:03 PM ^
The gist of the post was that Meyer locked the entire team in the gym, and the first people to drop were out. To me, that's much shadier than saying that the entire team was responsible for a certain set of mile times and making the ones who didn't make it go puke at six in the morning, especially when only 3/115ish couldn't make it. You could lock the entire field of Olympic marathoners in a gym and somebody will drop first, it really has nothing to do with fulfilling your responsibilities to your team, and to me that's the difference between what's normal/Michigan does and trying to find more roster space like it was alleged Meyer does.
Also, as far as I've ever heard in college athletics (and was stated in 3&O), showing up out of shape is definitely a violation of rules in some form, because some sort of punishment is expected.
December 24th, 2011 at 1:41 PM ^
Isn't that the same thing RR & Barwis did when they came in? I seem to remember people here calling the kids that left lazy & pussies because they could handle Barwiscising.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:42 PM ^
not Florida, and "Black Wednesday" had more to do with off-field issues than on-field performance. The upperclassmen were skipping classes, showing up late to team meetings, etc. Urban warned them that there would be consequences; when behavior didn't improve, he ran their asses until they quit or demonstrated a better attitude.
December 24th, 2011 at 8:38 PM ^
The President of the university of both Florida and Geaorgia are the 2 main universitys fighting against oversigning. I would highly doubt Urban Meyer oversigned at Flroida
December 24th, 2011 at 10:37 PM ^
Also, considering the fact that Florida had something like 65 scholarship athletes this year on the team certainly points to a squad that doesn't oversign egregiously.
December 24th, 2011 at 1:26 PM ^
That fact that they can't spell Urban's last name right makes it hard to take this article seriously
December 24th, 2011 at 1:31 PM ^
We know he lies, and will continue to lie. But none of that is against the rules, and it also works. A few will see through it or be turned off by it, but He will get a lot of recruits because of it none the less. It will now be a reality, so we better just get used to it and hope our staff is up to the task of combating it.
December 24th, 2011 at 2:49 PM ^
The sad part is it works. It worked at Florida even in the SEC against other liars, Hoke and Mattison need to do something to counter Urbans lieing. Just like that article said, schools have been recruiting Spence for 2-3 years, Meyer comes in and gets him to committ in 10 days. I really wish I knew what he told Spence. We gotta get used to it thought, this guy knows what hes doing, and will recruit or win at any cost, thats why his health went to shit. Everyone is so happy Ohio got a bowl ban next year, im not. Urban will now be throwing all of his energy into recruiting in the whole month of December. There also wont be any pressure on Urban to come in and be the savior of Ohio.
December 24th, 2011 at 3:45 PM ^
I wouldn't worry about Spence too much. He was PSU the whole way in his recruitment until they became a tire fire. Meyer just made a good pitch, but probably nothing spectacular. Not like he flipped Spence after he was on the verge of committing to Joe Pa.
December 24th, 2011 at 10:47 PM ^
by Spence. Just my speculation, PSU is a tire fire and there is no incumbent coach for the kid to build a relationship with. Michigan is full of DE talent, Ohio is still close to home it's a big time program and of course they paid him or his family a bundle. Okay that last part went too far.
December 24th, 2011 at 1:33 PM ^
Everyone must be hitting the eggnog hard today. The grammar and punctuation in this thread so far is rough at best.
December 24th, 2011 at 1:41 PM ^
That guy used my post ... pretty much word for word ... Next time he can just call me and I'll sum up an article for him, that way he wont have to paste it word for word.
But it's all good ... hopefully more and more recruits will read the bullshit Meyer is full of, and their parents will see this as well.
No way in hell I would want my kid playing for that sneaky bastard.
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/will-urban-meyer-be-caught-another-tangle-l…
December 24th, 2011 at 1:59 PM ^
You know how to spell "Meyer"...
December 24th, 2011 at 2:12 PM ^
wresler120, My intent was not to upset you believe me. But this is all just about football. I don't take too much of this stuff seriously. Unfortunately the nature of the internet or for any media where there is an abundance of user content we are going to get a lot of non atribution, poorly ref material ( im guilty see my post above). But when internet guy who may be loosely referred to as "blogger" post something without any fiduciary responsibility or code of ethics it's just light entertainment. FWIW
December 24th, 2011 at 1:38 PM ^
Wow this is some good stuff, hopefully his recruits get a chance to read it
December 24th, 2011 at 1:46 PM ^
Was that written by a 12-year old?
December 24th, 2011 at 1:54 PM ^
Seriously, the guy who wrote that can't spell Meyer and got all of his information from right here. I want my ten seconds back.
December 24th, 2011 at 2:15 PM ^
I liked how he lied in his press conference though, telling all of Colombus he was going to mix pro style sets into his offense. Anyone who heard that who wasn't a buckeye fan knew he was just saying it to calm the masses.
December 24th, 2011 at 2:26 PM ^
and Ohio really do seem like a match made in heaven. I hope he violates there probation and then leaves town citing health concerns as his reason for leaving. In fact that is what I would like for christmas next year.
December 24th, 2011 at 3:36 PM ^
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-07-24/sports/adelson_1_snead-jevan-tebow
Here's an Orlando Sentinel article that references the Tebow/Snead story. It apparently originally appeared in a book by Bruce Feldman.
December 24th, 2011 at 4:26 PM ^
he has no staying power at an institution because his wins are u based on a bed of lies. Look how Florida went 180 degree in the opposite direction with their new coach. I have a close friend who is a UF booster...they were ready to run him out of town.
December 25th, 2011 at 2:44 AM ^
Fat chance. Urban had two national championships in his short time at Florida. Not even Nebraska would be dumb enough to run him out.
December 25th, 2011 at 11:29 AM ^
the Brantley family stirring up trouble over Meyer's refusal to change his offense for John?
December 24th, 2011 at 4:14 PM ^
its how the world works, they feel comfortable with each other.
December 24th, 2011 at 4:23 PM ^
December 25th, 2011 at 5:25 AM ^