Make himself "donatable"? I doubt Tom wants us donating him...
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Make himself "donatable"? I doubt Tom wants us donating him...
250k You might want to hold onto this one.
+1 for anything related to Dumb and Dumber
"See this? That's a car, 275K, might wanna hold on to that one..."
I gave Tom my sister and he said that was acceptable payment.
I gave him my newborn to train as an apprentice. In a way, we both win.
You just had to outdo me didn't you? Douche
Don't worry, all i could offer was my fattest sow : (
she is indubitably, irrefutably, breathtaking acceptable payment!!!!
I gave him my pony.
Can someone tell me where I can donate I did not have a clue about donations. I would be glad to help.
There's a button in the top right corner that links to paypal.
Click on make a donation on the right side of the screen where it says "Beveled Guilt". Just above the diaries
Are there any more neat old-tymey Michigan pictures like that and/or where do I find them?
This is so cool. Would you mind if I stole this for a new avitar?
Feel free, I found it on Google Images a while back. I don't own it.
Nice. I'll take the oppertunity to do that now instead of taking notes about healthcare policy.
for an inappropriate photoshop..
Don't worry about it dude. If he didn't enjoy it and wasn't getting by I doubt he'd do it. Plus his clothes look nice in his twitter profile pic so I'll give the man the benefit of the doubt. Also, how sweet would it be to talk recruiting as your job? Don't feel so bad for the guy.
Don't take this as me discounting what Tom does. Huge asset to MGoBlog.
After reading your post out loud, I'm guessing you look like this:
I rock 8 collars. He's only got 7.
I am 99% sure i went to college with this guy, although he is missing the 4 sea-shell necklaces.
I am pretty sure I read earlier this year that Tom is on the payroll.
But donate regardless. The site is the best around.
so I clicked on some adds...
Let's see here. You, the MGoBlog (UM fan site) want to pay a guy who calls up high school kids about their recruiting process?
It's a nice sentiment, and it's amazing he does this for free. But that would probably be a big no-no. I could see that being a gray area that other schools (especially SEC schools) would take advantage of.
huh? what do you think, all of the other recruting site workers just do it for fun?
I doubt the guys at Rivals and Scout are doing it for free. As long as they are not recruiting for the school and are instead acting as journalists, there should be no issue.
I can assure you that they are paid -- and reasonably well.
And while I'm sure they do their best at being journalists, some of them are also pretty blatant homers who (I'm sure) at least mention or display their school of choice.
I'm all for Tom getting more than just props, but I don't know the rules on all this stuff. Since we're on probation, anything gets me agitated. Plus, I wouldn't want to do anything that would jeopardize his status. I can just see people in his position getting propositioned by boosters.
That's all. TomVH rocks. I just don't want us getting caught doing something illegal.
Tom is just interviewing the kids, not persuading their decisions. You're jumping through a lot of scenarios randomly and assuming that if Tom became propositioned in any way he'd give up his journalistic credibility to do so.
There are hundreds of reporters all over the country who get paid to talk to recruits what are you talking about?
TomVH is able to talk to kids during the recruiting dead periods whereas coaches cannot. Don't you see the potential for corruption if all of a sudden School B starts paying someone in Tom's position under the table to pass info on to these kids during dead periods or any other time.
take a deep breath.
sure it would be a problem if coaches got around dead periods by contracting out recruiting to self-styled journalists who were really just recruiting. but that's not what Tom nor any of these other guys is doing. they're covering news. and they can get paid to do that.
Yes, but that's totally different than what's happening. MGoBlog is in no way connected to the UM athletic department, and as far as I know Tom isn't recruiting anyone, he's simply interviewing them. MGoBlog is no more connected to UM than the Orlando Sentinel is to UF football, but their reporters still interview recruits even though a lot of the recruits probably know their allegiances.
What you brought up is against the rules, what Tom does is not.
My favorite part was when you said that something would probably be a bad idea and then said that you really had no clue what ou were talking about...
I'm naming my first-born "TomVH." No idea how to pronounce that, but I like it.
Which of the two has "21st century web design"? They're both horrible.
for the service he provides us, but I think he is already getting paid from the recruiting business (doesn't mean he should get donations from us in addition).
No doubt he has chosen to run a free site and therefore none of us are required or expected to make a donation. But like a lot of organizations, their donations, albeit optional, are a big part of making the ball roll. You do not need to donate to the Athletic Department to be a fan of Michigan athletics. But many people do because of they cherish their experience with Michigan sports and want to help them succeed. I'm not just talking about season ticket holder donations either.
I don't know the finances behind the site at all, but I bet it could run just fine without anyone making donations. However, we all have an interest in the site being as awesome as possible - paying guys like Tim and Tom, buying more servers to handle the increase in traffic, and convincing Brian why he doesn't need to go work somewhere else because we take care of him.
If we all donated a little more, what other cool features/correspondants could the site add? Buying from the MGoStore is a good way to go as well.
I don't have a problem with you choosing not to donate consistent with Brian's business model. I do have a problem with those calling those who choose to do so ass kissers. In my case, it's not ass kissing, it's paying for a service I use.
I've made my opinion on this matter known before and it's not a very popular stance among the MGoAssKissers but if the site is good enough to make money on its own merit then it will. I see no reason why the reader should feel compelled to donate money.
Sometimes people like to donate to things they enjoy, which helps the providers of that enjoyment feel motivated and sufficiently fed to keep that enjoyment going.
The only way Brian gets paid is if advertisers buy ads, if we click on ads, or if we donate. Brian gets plenty of page views, but ads and donations aren't guaranteed.
Yes, advertisers are willing to pay more for ads if they know a ton of people are going to see the ads.
Also, Brian [probably] gets paid a fraction of a cent for every time a page is accessed. The more page views, the more money he gets.
Just like the last time we had this discussion I'll say again that if Brian or TomVH or whoever gets tired with the blog or feels like he isn't making enough money then that's ok. I won't be lamenting the fact that I didn't contrbute $20 when I had the chance. Someone else will carry the torch of producing a kick ass Michigan blog.
I just don't understand the motivation to donate money to a sports blog. It's not a charity.
So charities are the only thing you donate to? Have you ever donated to the University? That's far from a charity, but a lot of people donate to their Alma Mater because they want to see it succeed. I donate money to a lot of things that aren't charities.
If everyone decided not to donate and because of that TomVH was no more, a lot of people would say that's not OK. A lot of us appreciate the work Tom does, and want to make sure he's able to continue doing it. That's not crazy.
The university is a non-profit organization. It's a lot closer to a charity than a business. With that being said I don't donate to my alma mater either.
You are saying that TomVH is allowed to keep working becasue of donations and I just don't think that is the case. No one would put that much time and effort into something and then leave the success of their work in the hands of anoynomous internet benefactors and hope for the best. If you donate out of a sense of graitiude that's fine. But if you donate out of a sense of duty or fear that the UM coverage you value will disapear then I feel that is misguided.
Do you vote? In all likelihood, your vote will never ever decide anything in any election. But many people do vote.
Economic theory has a very hard time explaining why people vote, or donate to charity. Or I should say, has a very hard time coming up with rigorous, testable hypotheses about why people vote.
Magnus's point is spot-on. You donate not because you have to, but because you want to. It makes you feel good to donate, and it makes you feel good to imagine Brian rolling around in piles of dolla bills while changing his honeymoon plans from Niagara Falls to Bora Bora. And that's the same reason why many people vote -- to express themselves, to feel heard.
I certainly don't think you need to donate. And you're already expressing yourself by coming to the site, adding page views, adding your own content, which adds more page views, etc.
For the record, I'm a semi-freeloader. I donated early on, when ads were low and site monetization wasn't coming forth. Of late I haven't felt compelled to donate, precisely because it seems like things are going well enough with the site, and I contribute in my own way with eyeballs, clicks, and the occasional pontificating wordy post.
With that said, I have wondered how TomVH makes a living -- does Brian pay him? Heck, I don't know. I do like his updates, even if I feel creepy every time I spend 2 seconds worrying about a teenager's college decision...
So far I haven't encountered any other Michigan bloggers who captivate their audience quite so well as Brian/TomVH. There's a reason that MGoBlog absorbed Varsity Blue. And I have no misguided notions that Touch the Banner could do what Brian does.
There might be an heir apparent for Best University of Michigan Football Blogger, but that doesn't mean it would be the equivalent of MGoBlog.
Honestly the first thing I look for when I access the site (which is about 30 times a day) is anything related to recruiting or anything written by Brian. They do an excellent job.
Thanks guys, we appreciate it.
To each his own. If people want to donate and show support for the site that way, that's great. But, as long as I've been reading this site, Brian has never asked for donations of any kind (except by putting up on inocuous button that he never talks about).
So, are you saying that anyone who has the unadulterated nerve to hold an opinion that differs from yours is an "MGoAssKisser?"
It must be really cool to be right all the time.
Am I reading you correctly? If I choose to provide monetary support to Brian (and Tom if that's possible) in order to encourage them continuing to provide a service I use dozens, if not hundreds, of hours per year, I am an ass kisser? I believe in supporting those whose services I use. I do not understand your thought process.
If I ever run into a guy at the bar that calls himself TomVH, drinks are on me.
which bar(s) do you hang out in? Just so "Tom" knows where to find you.
Can we get Larry Page to spot cover for all of us to use MGoBlog? I suggest a link embedded on Google's home page.
The best part about the donation button is the word "beveled." It seems like a word I'd have to learn in John Rubadeau's class. I'm determined to put it into my dissertation.