He's dead on. McQueary and Paterno should both be fired. Yesterday.
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He's dead on. McQueary and Paterno should both be fired. Yesterday.
What's really troubling is that Sandusky was caught in 98 for this and was told to stop showering with kids. How those officers aren't taking any heat for this is beyond me. If it had been the janitor that caught Sandusky and not Sandusky, he would be in jail on a life sentence. What kind of crooked culture is that? Think of how many lives have forever been altered because of this scumbag.
Also, the whole "well he's JoePa's friend" argument is maddening. If JoePa was so relaxed (not sure if that's the right word) with his dealing on the situation because Sandusky is a close friend that makes it sooooo much worse.
This is all very helpful, thanks. So it's enough to just report an allegation of rape, then do no meaningful follow-up? (Maybe Paterno did more than that; I'm just going by the grand jury report.) Even when you're the de facto head of the program? That's kinda nauseating. I realize that Sandusky hadn't been charged or convicted of anything at the time. But I like to think most good head coaches would have done more than Paterno seems to have done.
I'm by no means an expert (or even fully informed) about the situation here but it seems as though Sandusky's retirement came at a "convenient" time for Paterno. The best he could do was report (which he did) and terminate employment (which he did not). That said, like someone else noted above, the fact that Sandusky was allowed on the premises after McQuery witnessed the assult is inexcusible. That, in my opinion, is grounds for termination of Paterno, him having been informed of the assault and not having inquired further. Morality doesn't come into criminal charges but it definitely is considered in employment.
I'm literally in a 'State of Shock' right now. This is not even an issue for sports fans but the general populace as a whole-- the image of Penn State has endured countless arrests, accusations and other hypocrisy, but this is something far different.
The greater community right now is numb, just tongue-tied with disgust and disbelief. No one's joking, no one's laughing it off or even denying it. There's just nothing to say.
From where I'm standing, I think Paterno himself will probably escape relatively unscathed unless someone in the media really trains the crosshairs on him. At least, legally and professionally, that is. I don't think he's gonna get pulled down with the rest of them. But it's his image, and ultimately his legacy, that will be tarnished, and in the worst possible way. You can say what you want about mental health or senility or whatever, but few people doubt that he's generally a good, honest man. And because he's always had this image of going above and beyond what was permissible to do what's right, it will also be his undoing. He did enough-- but he's always been painted as the type of guy who doesn't settle with 'enough'.
I think a lot of people tried to look the other way to protect someone that they thought of as their own, and failed to see him for the perpetrator he was. Curley claimed that he just thought it was 'horsing around,' but then banned Sandusky anyway. Hypocrisy-- he's gone, and he should be. This guy clearly was trying to sweep something under the rug, and was more concerned with protecting his program than the victims and subsequent future victims.
Ignoring this kind of stuff is like walking past a ticking bomb under a bus and doing nothing about it.
I really have nothing against JoePa in the matter, except for the part of his press release where he states that he didn't know the extent of what the grad assistant saw. Clearly McQueary told him exactly what he saw and how bad it was. Paterno's entire argument hinges on that portion of his statement, really-- How much did he know?
I would hope McQueary isn't pulled into the mud-- he saw what he saw and he blew the whistle on it. If he was told to keep his mouth shut, I would think we'll find out. And if he did, even when he knew he was wrong, well... that's where it gets complicated.
The whole darn thing is complicated... and messy. Two weeks ago the entire state was praising the old man for his record win, and now this??? Common belief around here, since I was a boy, was that Joe earned the right to call his own number, and on his own terms. Now... I wouldn't be all that surprised if a new AD eventually wipes the slate in the aftermath of the ugliest PR nightmare any athletic program has possibly ever endured.
As it stands, right now in the Keystone State the mere words "Penn State" are positively cringeworthy.
I think McQueary might not be totally innocent in all this. When you witness a child being raped, the first thing you do is call the police. You don't wait to tell your boss. If it really was just "horseplay", then I can understand conferring with Paterno first. But the grand jury indictment is very explicit about what McQueary thought he saw. I don't understand why he didn't immediately call police after witnessing something like that.
I guess I never really thought about it until now, but where's the "Dude, What the Hell Are You Doing??" right then and there on the spot. If any of us walked in on something like that, wouldn't the first response be to get the monster away from the kid in the first place?
McQueary went home and told his dad, and the next morning he told Paterno. He didn't save anyone or anything except Sandusky. Now, I guess we have to understand that he's, at that point anyway, a young kid and recent grad in the first step of his career with the program he loves. He's got a lot to lose, and he'd be calling out a respected member of the PSU community and a former authority his life. But none of that excuses him or changes the fact that he watched a kid's world being destroyed and ran away.
I can maybe understand McQueary getting the hell out of there and fleeing the building out of shock, panic, or fear for his own safety (if a man is capable of raping a 10 year-old boy, what else might he be capable of?). But I just can't understand him not calling the police as soon as he's had a few minutes to gather his thoughts and digest what he just saw. It speaks to Paterno's omnipresence within that program that a graduate assistant's (and his dad's) first instinct upon witnessing the rape of a child in a football locker room is to defer to Paterno.
This is where I'm still struck dumb, I don't get how IMMEDIATE action wasn't taken by McQuery and how he didn't bang on a drum over and over to follow up on the issue. Something stinks really bad here.
Worse yet, how does McQuery continue to go to work everyday, knowing what he witnessed, ESPECIALLY since Sandusky was still around after he retired!?? I'd like to think that I'd have tackled Sandusky if I saw something like that happening (especially being a father myself), but maybe I wouldn't???? And I'd like to think that I'd quit my job if I ever had to see Sandusky in my place of employment. But maybe I wouldn't have the guts??? Either way, what a horrible situation for McQuery to be in, all because he witnessed something horrible like that. I feel for the guy, all the while feeling a bit disgusted that he didn't do more to protect that little boy.
This is outside of the NCAA's purview, since it doesn't have anything to do with actual competition. I don't expect that they'll have anything to say about it.
I'm sure the NCAA can find something.
If nothing else, Sandusky was offering one of the victims a spot on the team as a walk on in exchange for... well, you know.
The NCAA will investigate, and certainly they'll find something. The media will descend upon Happy Valley and they'll turn up a thing or two.
"The NCAA will investigate..."
I'm fairly certain that they won't. Why would they? There is no question of Penn State not following NCAA bylaws, and the NCAA generally stays out of things without specific accusations of specific bylaws being broken.
Maybe you're right, but the media certainly will.
Do you really think an institution that could cover up something this big, wouldn't cover up other things as well?
Just ask the Catholic Church if keeping abuse allegations "in house" and reporting it to your superior is sufficient in the eyes of the courts. I feel so sad for the victims. This is a disgusting situation.
1. Legal Issues. As most people have mentioned, this is, at it's core, a LEGAL matter. Laws were broken. Which laws, etc. are up to the courts and stuff. We know there was alleged molestation, and an alledged cover up. As of now, with the grand jury stuff, Paterno is not found to have done anything ILLEGAL. (As far as I understand the "failure to report" parts) The AD and VP of whatever are found to have broken the law by not reporting, and perjured themselves in the process.
2. NCAA Issues. This is the big difference. No NCAA rules were broken here. This is why this case is SO different and should NOT be compared to OSU or Miami. It is not Illegal to sell your own jersey. It is an NCAA Violation. It is Illegal to molest children. The NCAA has nothing to do with this case
3. Moral Issues. This is where Joe Pa is in trouble. In the court of public opinion, and in a total non-legal sense, Joe Pa is one of many people who made mistakes. Huge mistakes. There were many,many people along the way who could have, and (morally, possibly legally) SHOULD have called the police. By failing to do so they all contributed to the continuing molestation of children. Maybe by not calling the police Joe Pa (and others, including the then grad-assistant) didn't break the LAW, but they did not act MORALLY CORRECTLY either. Whether doing the WRONG thing (not illegal, possibly) is a fire-able offense is the next question.
a failure to sound the alarm means more kids get hurt. For this, JoePa stands in the court of public opinion, whatever the existing legalities.
Edit: When all is said and done we may want to petition the B1G offices to take Joe's name off the championship trophy.
It has been intimated many times that the next coach at PSU is NOT currently on the staff. This is an open rumor among the Homer Faithful. They have been hoping and praying that Urban Meyer will be that next coach just grasping at that rumor alone.
I don't find it to be a coincedence that one week before this shitstorm came ashore in (un)Happy Valley, Miami and Al Golden started renogotiating his contract. He has openly coveted that job for many years and put in time at other schools. He's generally respected as a squeaky clean guy that runs a tight ship.
The only thing missing right now is the wife's cousin's brother-in-law is a realtor rumor showing him a home in State College.
Paterno is done.
A lot of people here are jumping to conclusions, presuming everybody guilty until proven innocent.
Nobody knows exactly what happened to whom and who knew exactly what was alleged and when. We may never know.
Let the justice system do its work and let more facts come to light... then people can weigh in. Even then there will be gray areas. Especially when it comes to alleged sex crimes, objective evidence of wrongdoing may be completely absent. Unfortunately, this does not prevent prosecutions and even convictions. Our justice system is incredibly flawed even in this day and age and often functions like the Salem witch trials when it comes to sex crimes. The allegations are disgustingly horrible and hopefully every guilty party is appropriately punished. But convicting people without solid evidence and completely destroying their lives can be even more horrible.
So it's probably best for everybody to keep an open and rational mind about this situation.
Hopefully, the NCAA does likewise.
Of course this generic "innocent until proven guilty" response applies to all such discussions. However, I think we can all agree that where there's smoke, there's fire. As such, I think its entirely acceptable for the media fallout and for the court of public opinion to be in session.
Is it just me or does Joe Paterno get waaaay too much credit and praise. He has been at PSU forever, of course he's going to have a TON of wins. He always had a big ego and crushed the Pitt PSU rivalry because he felt "wronged" by Pitt. The last decade, he has basically been holding Penn State hostage while him and Bowden competed for the most win mark. He has clearly only been a figurehead for the past 5+ years. He can't travel, so can't recruit, can't be on the sidelines at games, can't be an effective in-game coach, probably can't read that well (thick glasses) or speak loudly (giving direction at practice) or even walk too much.
To me, this scandal makes it less likely that he will get his "ride off in the sunset" sendoff. He should be gone after this season, gone as in not the coach at Penn State, not what you were thinking for a second. =)
Also, his name should probably be removed from the Big Ten Championship trophy, right?
What did he do in the long run for the Big Ten anyway? The pundits thought PSU would rule the conference, but yet I believe PSU won one football championship since being admitted 20 years ago?
There is no way that his name can be associated with any conference championship after this ugly affair.
Think of the kids molested and the impact on their lives forever. His failure to go beyond contacting the AD contributed to years more of immoral behavior of the worst nature.
Bo and Woody, who have won so many Big Ten CHAMPIONSHIPS, was stupid to begin with. The coach's trophy could easily be named after Paterno and Stagg or whoever, for what they have contributed to coaching as a whole.
But it's gone from stupid to embarrassingly offensive. And everyone thought "Legends and Leaders" was their biggest problem.
Earlier this year when A& M kicked the conference realignment talk into high gear, Paterno hinted that PSU should consider what's best for itself rather than remain loyal to the B1G. And he, in front of the media, wondered if the ACC wasn't a better fit.
“Things are changing and you’re not really sure what’s going to happen,” Paterno said. “I don’t know where we’re going to end up. There might be even some speculation that Penn State maybe ought to get into something different, or we ought to try to go out and get some people from the east to come into the Big Ten.”
So much for loyalty, then. What's next, the Big East Frank Beamer Award? The Bo Pelini Big 12 North Trophy?
is he's a PSU big shot, former player and coach, and friend of Joe P. Any "lesser" person would be behind bars now. That's what makes this so horrific. The Penn State administrators were clearly attempting to cover all this up - completely losing sight of the further terrible crimes by Sandusky they were enabling by protecting him. Getting back to the OP, the NCAA will do nothing here. This is a criminal legal case in an area outside of NCAA rules. What former coaches do outside of the program isn't their concern. Really, the group that should be taking decisive action here is the PSU Board of Regents (or whatever they call the governing body there). They need to be VERY concerned about not just the football program's reputation but the entire university's as well. How they handle this will say a lot about their character and ethics.
Yes, all evil needs to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
I don't post that often, but I haven't seen anyone else mention this, so I'll throw it out there.
I remember Mike McQueary as a pretty big guy. A quick google search gave McQueary's ht/wt as 6'4'', 213lbs. He was 28. Sandusky was an old man.
Why didn't McQueary stop it?
Why turn around and leave the room and call his father? And then exit the building?
Why not go up to them, shove Sandusky away and take the boy out of the room?
The kid was in jeopardy. McQueary is a big, strong athlete. Stop them and take the kid to safety.
If I am wrong here, what am I missing?
According to Dan Wetzel, Sandusky was using PSU facilities (weight room) well into 2010.
So what was going through McQueary's head as he sees Sandusky around the office on a regular basis?
This story keeps getting worse and worse.
I lied: Sandusky was using PSU facilities last week
I have to stop reading about this story. If I was one of those kid's father, I would probably be behind bars for having beaten Sandusky to a pulp. This whole thing makes me sick and irrational . . . PSU's football program should be shut down.
/overreacting for good reason
That's yet another disturbing thing to think about. All those times they had to have crossed each other's path in the 9 years since McQueary's discovery. He had to have been given a ton of hush money. I can't think of any other reason he would do no follow up when nothing happened to Sandusky.
Sooner or later, McQueary is going to have to come out of hiding and release a statement.
Mike said that Sandusky and the kid ran to Sandusky's locker room.
Mike probably felt, and yes, guesstimating, that telling Paterno would bring the hammer, cause, of course, harming an at risk kid who was lured to campus in hopes of being mentored, is a sick f*&@*&%g thing to do and JoePa, with his value core, would save the child....
And here we are today, the cover up, in this case, is just a little less worse than the crime...
No no...you're right. All this talk about accountability, and doing the right thing, and honor is a whole lotta bullshit. At least at the highest level of the athletic department at PSU.
protestations that Paterno did what was required. Sandusky is using your beloved school's facilities to do this stuff and you don't ring the alarm to the high heavens? (I mean, someone is assaulting a kid in Michigan's locker rooms, what would you hope Hoke did? Tell Brandon and then not worry when Brandon did nothing? Hells no.)
Also, you know this guy for decades and nothing more than that one incident is reaching you? I have serious doubts. You almost have to be blind on purpose, which amounts to negligence. . . exactly the kind of negligence you would fear with an Uncle Bernie kind of arrangement of that kind.
I'll bet Paterno was just scared to death this would emerge, knew it would besmirch PSU like a mug. Point me to the line where I place my money that Paterno is done this year.
If Joe Pa resported something I am sure it was more than "Hey AD, some Grad Asst told me he saw Sandusky and a kid in a room- please investigate". There's no reasonable cause unless he knew that Sandusky was doing harm, and which he should have taken care to follow-up, it's a 10 year old were talking about here.. Wouldn't he care for the child's safety?
I applaud ESPN for being active, particualrly Golic (who can be infuriating) Cowherd (same, but ego+) and SVP folks for taking a stand on this and pointing out the utter hypocrisy of Joe's statement.
Taking advantage of at risk kids is disgusting. Not inquiring when someone says a kid is in danger and needs help (the Grad Asst comment to Joe Pa) is complicit in the harm.
Paterno needs run out of Happy Valley.
But hey, this is the Internet, I don't expect much to vent frustration at certain folks in the football communities who dimly say "let's follow laws, we can't judge, etc etc".
Thank God this is Michigan. Thank God for Bo's standards and focus.
I want to know who Paterno's "scores of professionals trained in such things" who missed this sickening episode are. I'll say this; they may not have missed it if anyone in the PSU athletic department had the balls to do the right thing on behalf of little kids who were being raped. It's hard to stand up and be accountable. That's why those who are accountable are revered. There is nothing to be revered in Happy Valley.
McQueary came, saw, reported, and then never left or said any more even after nothing happened to Sandusky.
Paterno heard McQueary's statement (I'm not guessing there was any question that Paterno understood that something deeply wrong was going on), passed it "upstairs" to his de facto employee the AD, and never left or said any more even after nothing happened to Sandusky.
The University president heard the same story -- nothing.
There was no accountablity and a bunch of little boys paid the price.
Based on Paterno's statement there still isn't.
In a very different situation, I had to basically force a person to retire. In my situation, substance abuse and abuse of prescription medication was involved, so the only damage was to the individual (well, and job performance, obviously.)
Regardless, my point is this: I can very much believe that Sandusky "retiring" was perceived at the time (by the AD, & perhaps by Paterno) as allowing them to get rid of Sandusky without airing all the dirty laundry. This allowed them, as said by Six Zero, to "protect one of their own."
But there is more. It also allowed them to avoid an investigation. I'm not sure how much they really wanted to know. Sometimes, people just want to look the other way. Sadly, it also allowed someone to continue abhorrent and horrible behavior without sanction or review.
PSU is going to have a massive class action civil lawsuit on its hands. Not to mention all the other consequential damages from this story - decrease in applications (I assume), decrease in donations to the AD (I assume), you name it. When all is said and done, PSU is going to be out $millions, I bet.
Curly? Joe? Where are Larry and Moe?
I don't get how someone witnesses it, and his reaction is "hmm...maybe I should report this to somebody". I value my job, my career, and hold a lot of people in high regard....but it could have been some magically amalgam of Bo, Lloyd, Rich and Brady combined, and if I find that thing messing around naked with a little kid in the shower (no matter which claim of witnessed events you believe), that SOB is going to be tasting shower room tiles, and that boy is going straight to the police. Old man or Andre the Giant, you're letting that kid go or you're getting ready for unplanned castration. Man up and do what's right. In THAT situation, it's not a hard choice at all.
Paterno did the right thing by reporting, but once he saw that it wasn't being handled properly, it was up to him to take it to the next level.
If you see something wrong, report it to the next person up the chain. And keep going up until it gets resolved. If that doesn't work, talk to the authorities.
The failure of incidental adults in this is appalling. GA and janitor stumble into incidents in progress but don't intercede at all and don't even engage the law via the police, they just pass it up their employers' chain of command. It seems Paterno did exactly that, too, with the added firewall of "the GA didn't give me any details like *that*" (just enough to warrant an emergency meeting about it on a Sunday...).
RIch Rod is gonna be coaching at PSU next year, I can feel it..
We need so much more information about who did what when. Most normal people, had they been in McQueary's position, would have immediately kicked Sandusky's ass and dragged him to the cops. Did he really just defer to the AD for nine years, even as Sandusky continued visiting the lockerroom? Most head coaches, having heard of anything even remotely involving pedophilia, would have beaten the drum until every shred of doubt was gone. Most school administrators would have immediately consulted with outside law-enforcement.
Either McQueary or Paterno is lying about what McQueary reported. Would Paterno, when informed that Sandusky was literally caught raping a 10-year-old on campus, really just fob it off on the AD and still let Sandusky hang around the program? Strains credulity, doesn't it? I do wonder how candid McQueary was when he first reported the "incident." Otherwise, Paterno is a monster.
Regardless, adults who witness sex crimes must be legally required to also contact the police, no? I'm pretty sure the law doesn't say "Just tell your boss and you're good." I'm hoping Paterno et al will be able to fill in the blanks. But jeez. There's very little gray area once you (or one of your staff) catches a colleague in the showers with a 10-year-old boy.
Do they really need to do anything? Given what has apparently happened, I think the final decision on his fate - if it is to be something other than retirement - is up to PSU and, if it gets that far, law enforcement.
I don't know...if I am PSU and Joe Paterno's name is basically doing a Titanic before my very eyes, then I offer him the opportunity to leave quickly and, for the time being, somewhat graciously.
He really should have gone straight to law enforcement. Why he would merely present the allegations of child sexual abuse - once he heard about them - to the AD's office and no one else is beyond me. Definitely, when he saw nothing happen, he should have approached the police.
Long time reader, second time poster here and I want to lead with a few position statements before I offer my opinion: I am not trained to offer a legal opinion or interpretation of the situation. From a moral perspective, I'm outraged by the situation and I believe that any adult has an obligation to inform the autorities whenever an allegation of sexual abuse of a child is made so that a proper investigation can be conducted and, most importatly, children can be protected. I also believe in the rule of law and, no matter how damning a Grand Jury statement or evidence produced by a prosecutor to the media, that a defendant is innocent until proven guilty and deserves a fair trial.
Regarding the purview of the NCAA in this matter, at this time I don't see that the bylaws presented here relate closely enough to the situation for an investigation to be initiated. It's abhorring to say, but frankly the charges are not related to the on-field product (from prospective student-athletes through active staff in the program). Having to resort to "catch-all" bylaws like Section 10, no matter how central to the organization's aim, generally make the burden of proof fall that much harder on the accusor/investigator in cases like these.
Unfortunately, this situation has caused everyone to stare into the depths of a horrible, previously unthinkable situation. Now that Pandora's Box has been opened, I hope the NCAA will add an addendum to their bylaws specifically dealing with abuse of all kinds. They are now faced with the realization that a large portion of the individuals in their purview (prospective student-athletes) are minors, and provisions for their protection need to be explicitly legislated. Given the current debacle and that an athletic scholarship means anything from the fulfillment of a lifelong dream to a life-altering opportunity to attend college when it would otherwise be impossible, it seems that the vulnerability of prospective student-athletes has been exposed to its core and protections must be made for them as quickly as possible.
Even more unfortunate in this instance is that, from a legal perspective, the rules can only be created now. I believe a code of conduct and expectations for interactions with minors that expressly addresses the "Position of Trust" issues in the recruit-coach relationship should be created as soon as possible and immediately added to the NCAA Bylaws. Punishing Penn State under those rules however would be rationally unjust. Ex post facto punishment is forbidden by the Constitution, and though specific instances similar to the current situation have been tested in the Supreme Court, currently the NCAA would be inconsistent with the American justice system if they were to punish Penn State for rules that were not in effect when the transgressions occurred.
Now that I'm done with the (arguably) rational side of my opinion, it's time for the emotions to creep back. Morally, I think it's hard to find a point in the entire Grand Jury statement at which some adult didn't fail to act in the child's (childrens'?) best interest. The GA should have stepped in and removed the child from the shower and Sandusky's presence. His father should have instructed him to tell Paterno AND the police. Paterno should have immediately contacted the police. Curley and the VP should have been transparent, even if they had to try to spin the situation from a PR standpoint to the press. "We've stopped him and we're seeking justice for the children" is a much more powerful message than "we've been caught trying to save ourselves and our program from negative press (at the very least)." Hiding behind chains of command or loyalty to longtime employees/employers in situations like this is inexcusable and demonstrates a willingness to apply moral relativism to an issue--the well-being of children--that I and hopefully most people believe requires an absolute.
My hesitance to ride my emotional desire to see the pike on which I believe people who sexually abuse children should be impaled hit Sandusky in the tonsils is based on the personal relationship I have with several people who were involved in former District Attorney Nifong's crusade against the Duke lacrosse team. Seeing the destruction, stress and emotional pain inflicted on them by a malicious prosecutor convinced me that every defendant is entitled to a fair trial in a court of law. It also taught me that evidence is relative until both sides of the argument are heard. Frankly, the Grand Jury statement made my blood boil, but until Sandusky and his attorneys either admit its truth or can convincingly and rationally refute it, I'm stuck in a no-man's land between emotional rage and a rational nagging to make sure that an attempted public railroading never happens again. So, I'm left with a desire to show people who hurt kids like this my home run swing in a place where nobody can hear their screams and a tiny voice in my head begging me to make sure the guy deserves everything he gets... It's troubling that I have to feel that dichotomy.
/back under the bridge
that JoePa will be retiring at the end of the year, whether by his choice or Penn State's
"Schultz's lawyer said his client was not among those required by law to report suspected abuse. He also argued that the two-year statute of limitations on the summary offense has expired. "
How low can they go? This is a PR nightmare for the university and I think there's going to be some big happenings within a week or two. This hasn't made national news yet, but the university president isn't in the clear yet either.
Think of it this way. If you walked down the street and saw a guy beating up his girlfriend, you could keep walking and not break any laws, or you could do what any man worth a damn would do, and do something to stop it. Now, imagine if the crime was being conducted in your own backyard, by someone you knew intimately for decades? Even more so the impetus upon you to stop it.
JoePa's a mess, and deserves the slime on him for not stepping up.
I hope to god that Sandusky sings and we get some more details. To think that paterno had no knowledge of sandusky's proclivities is beyond laughable. The 1998 incident was conveniently followed by sandusky's retirement or whatever in 1999. Reeks of a cover up. In 2002 pattern could no longer ignore what was happening because a GA inconveniently came to him with an eyewitness account that couldn't be ignored. At that point paterno did the absolute bare minimum and never bothered to follow up, despite the seriousness of the allegations of something happening in his own facilities. FFS this guy was raping a 10 year old in the locker room and we are to believe it was an isolated incident or he somehow managed to avoid being caught for over a decade?
In terms of not pre-judging him, the facts that have already been established in the grand jury testimony and admitted to by paterno are plenty to deem him to be no leader of men and general awful human being. What person when brought an eye witness account of a child being raped doesn't call the police?