blacknblue

June 1st, 2011 at 4:15 PM ^

i dont really like the pac-12 logo all that much, it feels gimmicky and forgettable. And the championship logo really doesn't work add much. I actually prefer the new Big Ten logo.

psychomatt

June 1st, 2011 at 4:47 PM ^

First, the Pac-10 logo you posted is relatively new. I don't know exactly when it was rolled out, but if it is more than three years old I would be shocked. I am also guessing that the same graphic design firm modified the Pac-10 version to reflect the recently expansion.

Second, IMO, both the Pac-10 and Pac-12 logos blow away our lame B1G logo (including the ultra creative choice of cyan).

And, three, I actually was referring to their new football championship logo. Again, IMO, it is pretty good. Based on what I've seen so far, I am not eagerly awaiting the roll-out of ours.

zeda_p

June 1st, 2011 at 7:14 PM ^

Pentagram did the B1G logo and they're outwest.

I really feel for Pentagram in all of this because the fiasco over the B1G logo wreaks of bad client, and not designer(s). If you check out their work, they have so many great pieces -- especially in graphic. But to get those pieces, the client needs to listen and understand that though their opinions and insights matter, they're not the designer. (I know I sound like a snotty designer -- and I am -- but think of it this way, would you ever tell a doctor or a lawyer how to do their job? ...no, but for some reason clients think they can do that with design*).

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btw, do you remember when they released the B1G logo, there were two logos (B1G & B1G TEN). The B1G TEN logo was horrendous and obv. a client requested piece. Pentagram originally put it up on their site.. but after the melt down on the response, they took it down and replaced each example with the B1G logo.

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* I should point out a clients opinion and thoughts on their brand is extremely important and different than playing designer.

M-Wolverine

June 1st, 2011 at 10:58 PM ^

But you'd tell them if you like the job they're doing. And ad work is hardly brain surgery...more an art. Which means different things to different people. If pros only produce stuff that worked, there wouldn't be so many crap ads out there for every good one. Sounds like an excuse to blame the client, rather than accept one put their name on a shit design. If one really objects, refuse to go along. Otherwise take the money off the dresser and don't complain.

oriental andrew

June 1st, 2011 at 5:01 PM ^

the "shield" logo with the Pac 10 and then Pac 12 was rolled out after their conference expansion was completed.  According to wikipedia, the new logo was unveiled July 27, 2010 - it's barely 10 months old!!!  They had to go with Pac 10 for the 2010-2011 season because they still only had 10 teams.  However, the mountain theme is a clear nod to the fact they're bringing on Utah and Colorado.  Once the 2011-2012 school year officially starts, the Pac 12 logo will be official.    

neoavatara

June 1st, 2011 at 4:27 PM ^

Who came up with such a profound divisional name as north and south?  There is no way we could have come up with that one. 

As for the logos...the Big 10/11/12 has always had kind of lame logos. 

Soulfire21

June 1st, 2011 at 4:58 PM ^

If I had to wager a guess on our championship logo ....

That took me around 34 seconds to make in MS Paint.

 

Ed:  at least they couldn't blame fans for a terrible logo though

BlueHills

June 1st, 2011 at 5:40 PM ^

It's a ton better than the B1G logo stuff, but that's not saying much.

It looks like a typical blah TV sports program logo. Nothing to get excited about.

gobluesasquatch

June 1st, 2011 at 5:51 PM ^

While in some forms the B1G logo looks like an MS Paint job ... I thought it would look really well on a court, and have be easily adapted to any type of format or medium, including easy color scheme changes.

While there aren't many pictures available, the B1G logo on the court during the basketball championships looked outstanding in my opinion. The Pac 10 logo was very good, the Pac 12 logo ... the two just doesn't seem to fit. 

Now Legends and Leaders .... do I really need to say anything more?

rockydude

June 1st, 2011 at 6:03 PM ^

where someone goes OT to come up with better division names? It'll be tough to beat Leaders and Legends though? I nominate "Targets" and "Walmarts". "Walmarts" should make the Sparties happy, as they seem obsessed with the nation's largest retailer. Once you have Walmart in the equation, it is only a matter of sense to bring in their archrival, Target.

Alternatively, "Rodents" and "Weasels". "Rodents" work for us, the Badgers, the Gophers, as we slug it out in our battle for rodent dominance. (it is too funny, if you stop and think about it) And of course, OSU is well represented by "Weasels" . . . 

 

rockydude

June 1st, 2011 at 7:05 PM ^

Given that I don't know exactly what a mustelid is, should I change the name of the division to "varmints" or something more generic? It always amuses me when Wolverines play Badgers for ground varmint dominance. I'm easily amused . . . 

It's great - to be - a Michigan mustelid . . . 

Kinda catchy, I guess . . . .

tubauberalles

June 1st, 2011 at 6:23 PM ^

I'm underwhelmed with their pick as well as the four choices.  They all look like 2-color tv sports show graphics.  And, seriously?  A color gradient?  Is Clinton still president?

None of this is meant to imply an endorsement of the Big Ten's remade logo, but I can't say I like much about the Pac-12's.  Other than the fact that they at least include the actual number of schools in the conference in both the name and the mark.  That's a step forward..

 

 

stankoniaks

June 1st, 2011 at 7:01 PM ^

I like it much better than the Big 10 logo.  Larry Scott has done a really good job rebranding the conference.  Of course this (in contrast to the tv contracts) is only a small part of that, but it works.