Seem luck dont care about money at this moment.
Overnight Open Thread
Other SC news....Mallett goes pro. So does Ingram. And can Luck really not reconsider in the 10 days or whatever till the deadline? I mean, doesn't someone have to grab him and say ROOKIE CAP NEXT SEASON, THROWING AWAY $50 MILLION!! ?
I've always thought it takes a little luck to get money, man.
Ryan Mallet? Or who else is getting top QB money now?
with a Mallet.
Gabbert's currently #2 on Kiper's QB list.
How about a CORCH that wins Rose Bowls and can play Hail to the Victors on the guitar?!
PATTERSON OR BUST BIOTCHES!!!!!!111!!!11!!1
I tried to start one of these threads to replace the old one a few minutes ago. Guess Brian increased the point limits for everything while we're all still in time-out.
I think thread starting and front page are still app only. Also no voting.
Or on the webpage?
Webpage, also can't comment on frontpage stuff (says I'm logged out when viewing comments) or voting.
Disabled but for App...9, 2, 1, 14....new threads disabled but for App, but posting ok....267, 320, 281, 235....
When you can't waste time and network resources gang-banging this post or that and you can't start 30 redundant threads to cover the same topic, comment threads get big big big. Film at 11.
would someone be kind enough to explain through the App in layman's terms?
There is an MGoBlog iPhone app. Apparently, if you have an iPhone, you can still do certain things "through the app." Though I have an iPhone with the MGoBlog app, I can't confirm this. Yes, I am that lazy.
My head just asplode. I can't even make a call with an iPhone.
Just got a new phone today. It wasn't an iPhone. Don't I feel foolish now.
An Android version of this App. That would make my heart and soul sing with overflowing joy! Come on: my Droid is cool, too!
How un-Michigan is having an iPhone app, but no Android app. I thought one of the Google founders is Blue ...
I may have missed the memo but is the site down due to problems or is it because Brian has limited acess due to all the controversy that is going on?
But it figures that Wiscy is off our schedule next year, right?
I'm okay with the timeline being shitty as long as we end up with the right guy, but this crap just takes over your life. I've got the gal out of town so there is nothing stopping me from living in my bathrobe and trying not to get sauce from my frozen pizza on the refresh button. Good God, Brandon, make this shit happen.
Supposedly the job has to be posted for a week before it can be officially filled according to state law (at least that is what the internet is saying). I hope/doubt it will take that long for a decision to get made and for word of that decision to reach the masses though.
Yeah that's not going to stop me from checking this blog 20-30 times per day for updates (sad but true)
Pasting screwed up. Here's the link.
Before next Wednesday. If I'm still sitting around on Monday/Tuesday nailing F5 like my life depended on it, I may just have to light something on fire. I mean, this whole thing has even forced me into a fucking Twitter account, just so I don't miss anything! I'm so ashamed @UMAmaizinBlue!
This make me sad :-/
Leaders of Men is hosting a late night liveblog, dunno how much later it'll go but I'm posting in this thread anyway:
Is anyone else in physical pain at this point? I am.
Rumor from liveblog:
[Comment From ML]
Ok, I don't have any real insider info but take this fwiw... I'm kind of an old guy. I went to school with Loeffler... used to hang out with him too. To be honest, I was always miffed at what he was doing moving through the coaching ranks. He's kind of an arrogant meathead (if you ask me) and if you look at the progression of his QB projects over the years, Navarre, Henne (NOT Brady), Stanton (Lions) and Brantley (FLA) I'm of the opinion that he's not a good coach. Somehow he rides the coat tails of an endorsement he once got from Brady while Scot was a GA for Lloyd. And we passed up Harbaugh to promote him in 2002. Ugh. Now, more quasi inside knowledge. I used to know Harbaugh a little bit. I helped run his Celebrity Golf tournament and was invited to do so by his best friend, someone I got to know very well, but who I will not name here. He works in A2 still and manages Jim's money. Bottom line, Jim Harbaugh loves UM more than anyone I've ever met. He gushed maize & blue and unless something has changed that passion, I see him being the next coach here. I really believe all of this "news" is being manipulated by Ross and Brandon, possibly to justify the whopping salary we're about to pay a guy who has a record of 29-21 at Stanford. Perhaps MSC was so against it, they needed to show her the market price. To be clear, I don't have any ties or communication with Harbaugh any more so my gut feeling could be useless. Just beware of Loeffler & don't give up on JH.
We have to click beveled guilt before Brian can afford another Hamster and wheel for the servers?
And not beer money and hobo corpse clean-up. (Low MGoPoint Users are for the latter).
So JH turns down SICK money from the "NFL" to go back to Stanford (allegedly).
Still not buying it.
As much as his wife and Stanford w/ Luck appeals in the short term, Michigan and the glory in the long term has got to be more appealing in the long term. Right???
Don't worry because wifes like suck and stuff, man.
not anymore they don't
Stanford next year with a shot at a national title and then he goes to the NFL. That's what I think his plan is.
Doesn't compute for two reasons: (1) his personnel was stronger this year; (2) returning to Stanford can only hurt his insanely-hot status UNLESS he wins the NC. I know JH has a set of stones on him, but I think even he knows it's a huge risk to stay.
There will most likely be a work stoppage/lockout; the salary cap will probably go into affect this coming year according to ESPN and NFL.com; Luck's father is AD at West Virginia and former NFL quarterback so he knows "the deal"; and Luck is just a different kind of cat with patience and willing to bide his time. Mallet on the other hand: talented but impulsive, brash, not yet ready, very similar to how he was at Michigan as a Freshman.
point to a deal being reached before a lockout ever starting. But yes, there is a certain level of uncertainty about the issue. (Although even if there is a lockout, coaches get paid)
I remember hearing Pac 10 folks on the radio in the middle of last season (when Harbaugh speculation was already starting) say they thought he would be at Stanford as long as Luck was at Stanford.
Wouldn't be shocked to see that come to fruition. At this point he can test all the NFL waters and if he doesn't get the perfect offer come back for one more year with Luck before trying it all again with the next crop of openings. And he gets a raise in the process.
If he doesn't want the Michigan job, okay, alright, I get it. Sorta.
But if he ultimately wants the NFL, how the hell does he walk away from 8 million from the NFL?
The only thing I've learned is the shit you hear in the media is complete bullshit and speculation.
There is no chance anyone was about to make him the highest paid coach in the NFL. I think the numbers getting thrown around were/are all inflated. At best he is hoping for $6/7 million with college jobs able to go up to around $5 million.
there is more going on here that is yet to come out. Luck returns to Stanford; a UM alum who owns the Dolphins offers over 7 million a year and then pulls back so JH can return home to CA where SF might already be out of the picture and now Denver wants to give him a try...very peculiar.
I think the Michigan brand is worth too much to let JH get away from us. If he turned his back on this program for Stanford, it would be a disgrace. Especially after all the great things that DB said about him during the press conf. he could never show his face in A2 again...
He doesn't owe Michigan anything.
Born and raised on Michigan Stadium turf. Guidance from Bo. Sorry. He does owe Michigan. That is not to say that he is bound to come here and coach by that debt. But he does owe more than he has been giving.
Michigan got a whole hell of a lot out of Harbaugh's presence at the university as well.
Relationship just doesn't end there. See Braylon Edwards (as immature as he can be at times even he gets it) and Stephen M. Ross. Michigan molded him from youth through college into who he is today. Not only Michigan of course, but clearly M and Bo played a huge role. He owes more than snarky and self-serving comments about M academics.
If Michigan molded me into who I was today I'd still be stoned most of the time and waking up at noon. How cna you say with such certainty that Michigan is what made Jim Harbaugh what he is? This is fetishizing both the Michigan football program and Bo.
If Michigan molded me into who I was today I'd still be stoned most of the time and waking up at noon.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
He repayed Michigan by being a three year starting QB and beating OSU. He absolutely owes no one anything.
...and appreciates what Bo and Michigan gave to him. There is just so much money, prestige, fanfare, money, multiple once-in-a-lifetime coaching jobs, all being laid at his feet after 4 quiet years rebuilding Stanford and even quieter years at San Diego before that. I would be perplexed as well...anyone probably would.
Does this mean that DB isn't scheduling a home and home with Stanford right now instead of looking for a new HC
lol overnight thread has jokes...
Nobody has said it was Harbaugh that backed out. We don't know why this fell apart. None of this makes any sense.
because it is bazarre and it doesn't look to be getting any clearer. JH took on a 1 win program and made it a national power in 4 years. Why wouldn't he want to do the same for his alma mater? Bazarre!!!
but Flight Tracker 2011 has the plane we're all following in Boca Raton, literally just a few miles north of Deerfield Beach, FL. Assuming that really is a flight worth watching, which I'm not.
And I am not saying this because of wishful thinking, but none of it is adding up. Are we really to believe that JH and DB didn't have this all worked out by now? As if it wasn't 100% where he is going to go? C'mon man...
Maybe(And I don't wanna believe it because I am semi-pissed at the guy) but, if Jim goes to Michigan with all this free and crazy press, you don't think Michigan isn't going to become that school who everybody is seeing as the "UH OH" Michigan is going to bad ass now and it salvages the recruiting class if this deal is done by say.. Monday at the latest?
I can't honestly think JH would not know what he was going to do or DB wouldn't either. This seems like one big psychological game with a big payout at the end as far as perception goes. All pulled off by a business man who likes to make splashes. It seems like the fans and the press in Michigan want JH more than ever now just because the press has blown his name up at the perfect time.
I swear I won't be the least bit shocked if JH is the coach in a few days. None of this makes sense? Or I should say it makes too much sense.
Huge $$$ and huge pressure on many people, but especially the folks at Stanford, Michigan, and JH.
Not to mention Harbaugh's agent.
You, me, ESPN, and all the major media are being played.
Willingly, we must admit.
After a Foul year like 2010 (Michigan football, elections, crooks getting away with Murder right under the NCAA's nose) we can all use a circus to distract us.
Since RR was fired, I've barely given any thought to the past season except for brilliant flashes of Denard running down a wide open field and smiling the whole time. Is this how I fantasize? You bet your ass it is! Now if I can only shake those Stanzi-merica dreams....
Anyway, after the pain of the season, this pain is a pretty damn good distraction...even if it does hurt more [it = liver].
you and I must have been twins, separated at birth. You are right on the money, IMO.
conspired to make the Michigan program look chaotic and inept, to make Harbaugh look indecisive and greedy (in the eyes of some, not of me, for the record), and to make a man who has given $100 million to the university look like a complete jackass to his fanbase and to his head coach -- his relationship with whom he now has to work like hell to repair?
for the majority are people with real knowledge of college football and its process. And many on this board including me think DB looks like an ass. But the general perception of DB to the masses is the exact opposite. Look at the press. Or general fans etc etc. Hell I was at the Dentist today with 3 UM alums and they all think DB is the greatest think since sliced fucking bread.
The Rich Rodriguez era was as/is as chaotic as it gets. If Brandon pulls JH out of the hat at the end, the UM crowd is going to shit itself like the return of Jesus.
Look bro, I get your point but if you step back it all just seems too fucking easy.
And repeat - this isn't wishful thinking. Its just what my gut says from all of the clues and double talk.
You're definitely just saying that because of wishful thinking.
Actually Braylon, they didn't like the dropping of all those passes. Us Steeler fans loved 'em though.
great college receiver, as for the nfl, didnt quite pan out, just a very frustrating player.
I don't know. I honestly feel like Brandon had a speculative deal with Harbaugh somewhere inbetween yesterday and the OSU game and sometime in that timeframe, it fell apart. JH was suddenly going to be the highest payed coach in the NFL (I wish someone could explain why) and decided to rethink things. That's why Brandon's decision and "search" has just now gotten underway. Harbaugh just hasn't been happy with the NFL teams for whatever reason and now he's told Luck he's staying at Stanford. Or maybe vise versa. Harbaugh seems to hold Luck at the same level as a son.
It definitely doesn't make sense, though. The silence that Harbaugh has kept has been unbelievable, and I don't think ESPN know how to react. All of their rumors have either been wrong or too vague to mean anything. I just feel like, with a situation as volatile and ever-changing as this, Harbaugh just decides to stay at Stanford for another season.
Even if he does end up at Michigan, I don't think I'll believe it. I'll always be afraid of him jumping ship for the NFL at any moment. Although I suppose if he ends up at Michigan, it'll be because he never really wanted to go the the NFL. It's just so fucked up, though, whatever's going on.
It's prime recruiting season, DB seems like he didn't have a backup plan if JH went pro...I understand wanting to get the right guy, but shouldn't it be obvious to him? Shouldn't he have a ranked list and be going through that within a few hours?
They do but it isn't that simple. DB had a list long before the end of the regular season. A lot of coaches of high caliber aren't going to leave their schools, though. The best solutions are going to be more difficult to get than Brady Hoke.
The job has to be on the market until Wednesday, anyway. Something will probably get worked out in principle before then, but details ike recruiting probably won't be dealt with until after.
Following the KC - Ravens game on Sunday.
Jack (to John) - "Boy oh boy, you guys really shit the bed today! I can't believe KC ran it up on you like that!"
John - "Yeah, I guess the team didn't want it this year."
Jack - "The team?"
John - "Yeah. The Team, The Team, The Team."
Jim - "Aw screw you guys! Just because 450,000 Alumni are DYING to have ME move to Ann Arbor doesn't mean I'm gonna pick up my family and go for ONLY $5 MILLION. And besides, I wanna coach in the NFL too! DAAAD, John got to coach in the NFL!"
John - I wasn't talking to you pipsqueak, I was talking to Dad"
Jack - "Huh?"
John - "Think I'd like it there for the next 20 years?"
Jack - "Yep. I loved it there, and I wasn't even making 100K. You boys loved it there too."
Jim - "John, you want to eave the NFL...to coach Michigan?"
John - "Might be a nice life."
Jim - "DAAAAAD John's trying to take the best opportunity I've ever haaaad!"
John - "Fine, you do it."
Jim - "Really, I don't know if I wanna."
John - "Well that's fine. I don't want to either. It's settled, then."
Jack - "Aww fuck it. I'll do it. Gimme that phone!"
John, Jim - "NOOOOOOO!"
Jack - "Well then, which of you? I gonna count to three. One, Two..."
thanks for the laugh!
I'm sure this is closer to the truth then many of us will ever know. Hopefully the real-life version also has a happy ending.
i love the Miami OH's interim coach's pregame soundbyte.
LET'S GO GET OUR DAMN TROPHY!
Ross and Harbaugh agree that Miami will keep Sparano for one more year while Harbaugh goes back to Stanford to chase a MNC and Heisman with Andrew Luck. Next year, barring Miami in the Superbowl, Ross replaces Sparano with Harbaugh. This works out best for both of them because Harbaugh/Luck would like to play out one final year at Stanford and Miami is not eager to sign up a brand new $8 million per year coach in the face of a potential lockout.
So how is it they got the Twin Towers to come down?
I didn't see this mentioned out in the open and I've been wondering about it for a while: when Dave Brandon decides on a candidate, does he take into account their future aspirations? A longterm coach would be ideal, so it seems to me that we need/want a guy where the Michigan job is a goal and not a stepping stone to the NFL.
I agree, but it would seem we would have to develop our own coach like Bo or Tressel.
Yes, both were accomplished, but neither were hot
Just think how crazy "The Big House" will be next year with damn near 115,000 fans screaming The Victors before we beat the hell out of ND in our first night game. ESPN Gameday there with Des and the boys. JH is comming guys watch, you think he rather have Luck for one more year? When he can have Denard with 115,000 watching? We would be the talk of the entire sport of football. Think what this does to all of our rivalries in the big ten. Think what this does to the new improved divisions with the chance of playing OSU twice. Dont think DB and the President arent thinking of all of this too. DB said he wanted to unite and bring the UM Brand to the top, this happens when JH comes to A2. He is worth a hell of a lot more to us than any other college of pro team. UM as a brand is just as good and in my eyes better than most of these nfl places. DB knows all of this guys, and to let him get away from us for Stanford???? He will have some explaining to do trust me on that.
Hail to the truth
The stage is set, the orchestra booked. All we need now is a conductor.
If the best we can do is the Hoker, Michigan is truly dead.
That would like get me excited and stuff, man.
If you're bored there's 40 of us or so at the liveblog: http://ghostsofferry.blogspot.com/2011/01/lol-harbaugh-liveblog_7480.html
SIAP: Bill Martin and Mike Hart voice opinions on the firing of RR:
RR was fired???????? This is the first I heard of this!!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!
True story. After all this speculation and mindnumbing debate about hypotheticals I feel like getting a job at a hedge fund or bank selling subprime mortgages, credit default swaps, and tranches with a false AAA rating. I can sell anyone a CDS for LIBOR plus fifty right now!
Thank or I am craving a nuclear bomb appearance...I'm going through withdrawl...and I'm drinking.
Damn son it's like 2 AM on a Thursday and you're hitting the bottle? I hope you don't have to get up early tomorrow!
Thirsty Thursday. I guess I am done drinking, but the drinking isn't done with me.
Can't say I blame you after a shit week like this. I can't get my drink on until Saturday night.
from the Bible into that article about Martin.
DB and JH are sitting back sipping drinks laughing at all the eroneous media reports. Every now and then DB's cell phone rings and on the line is Ross telling them to "turn on ESPN, you're going to love this one."
I also think this comes down to Harbaugh not wanting to leave the Bay Area. Much more than money or returning Michigan to glory. He has a young family and a wife who doesn't want to leave California.
was my first introduction to the rich, full cultural life of Pennsylvania.
katty perry is a fucking dimepiece
It may be because I'm just returning from the bar, but I have no clue what this thread is supposed to be about
then he would have bolted for SF already. That job has to be filled this coming year, so if he passes this year, it won't be available next year and if he leaves for the NFL then, he will be leaving the Bay area then.
The other alternative is that he stays at Standford for the next 15 years /ya right
If anyone is interested in the UConn HC or Assistant position here is the link to fill out an application.
The openings will say
Specialist IIA (assistant football coach)
and Specialist IVA (Head Football Coach)
done and done.
Although I am not fully qualified for either of the positions, I have gone ahead and applied anyways. Why?? Because I can, and can now say I have applied for the head/assistant coaching position(s) at UConn, a division 1 collegiate football program
The media is such a joke. All of these rumors about JH for 7-8 million at Miami, and the truth is they don't even have an opening for a head coach. These rumors are actually making me think that it is more likely that JH will be at UM.
SF now seems to be on the back burner. Miami went with their lame duck coach instead of JH after laying over 7 million on the table to him which he obviously did not accept. Elway says he wants a shat at a JH interview. And in all of this, Michigan and DB quietly say nothing as all of this plays out...I still gotta believe it could happen.
Maybe Luck announced his return so that he could transfer to Michigan right after Harbaugh gets announced. He had a change of heart about his school and major, and decided to transfer to the Ross School of Business--the Dolphins meeting with JH under the auspices of hiring him was just a smokescreen so that S Ross, Luck, and the NCAA (in conjunction with Luck's father, Oliver, whose ties to WVU morally compel him to assist Michigan as recompense for humiliating Rich Rod) could have time to hammer out such a tricky relocation. With everything in place, Ross and co. quickly affirmed their commitment to Tony Sparano. Meanwhile, the 49ers plan to hire Brady Hoke soon after Stanford reintroduces Head Coach Ty Willingham as the final domino hits the table.
Vote for Michigan and maybe someone other than Brady Hoke will want it:
So more people vote
jim heacock? (if you're up this late, i'm guessing you're willing to read off-the-wall suggestions.) he was a head coach for years ('88-'95 IIRC) at illinois state, although i can't find records going that far back, and i'm pretty sure we'd be ok if we had OSU's D the past few years. it's also a serious back-to-bo kind of move, and would really reinvigorate the UM-tosu rivalry. thoughts? aspersions?
If he was he would be here already - I've finally gotten to the 12th stage of grief - and you guys should too
I do not believe he has received an official offer from Dave Brandon yet.
What even is an "official offer" and when they hell would one make it? I'd say now would be a good time. What about reports/rumors saying that we supposedly offered JH something in the realm of $5 million+? If we offered him a number, is that not official. I need sleep.
Sources say that Jim Harbaugh is currently the #1 cause of insanity and insomnia among college football fans in the United States.
I've probably slept 20 hours the past 4 nights.
Wow, you're one of the lucky ones. I think I'm in that hallucination stage of sleep deprivation. I swear my Fat Head just winked at me.
Scott Draper fired for leaking RR news? Funny that DB was on The Apprentice because he's the only guy who fires more people than Trump.
fair treatment for a snitch
Snitches get stitches!
Draper, Jamie Morris and RR: snitchin, lyin and losin. Dat mightta worked on Dolla Bill's block but Pimp Hand not havin it.
/poor TPryor attempt
Never gonna happen but.....did you see the clip of the Miami (OH) coach in pregame?! Had me fired up to go out and play! We NEED a coach with that passion and drive!
DANTONIO IS BUSTING OUT THE SNAKE OIL ON OUR RECRUITS NOOO
step two - spend 30 minutes rolling through 487 replies to the two posts that appeared since you shut it down last night.
step three - realize that any hope of productivity at work today is still a pipe dream
step four - sigh and hit the shower
Nothing is getting done today at work.
Sometimes I look out the window and see people walking, interacting, notaddicted, and then I refresh the screen.
They are speculating as much as us, JH to UM/Stan plus the Miami interview being a pot sweetener to AA. They also are throwing around John Harbaugh now and some of his staff if they lose to KC this weekend. I guess I'm doing the APE report again.
John Harbaugh staff.(Cam Cameron/Andy Moeller) brian would shit if Moller came back.
Sources are saying Bo Pelini.
-Unhappy with leadership at Nebraska
I would Love this move it would piss off our new rival and our arch enemy. Perhaps this is what D.B. was talking about getting defensive.
Talked about the B.H. and his Oregon O statement that Brian had on the front page and what a bad statement it was.
Forgive grammar/spelling I'm trying to shit this out as quick as possible.