Outlook on '14 Class and Recruiting Question

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Outlook on '14 Class and Recruiting Question

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It's nice to see Wilton Speight taking the Shane Morris role for the '14 class, but I found this quote interesting:

“After this crazy day settles down, I’m going to try to get coach (Al) Borges on the phone, and I want him to get me a list of who they’re targeting and who I need to start working on, because I plan on this class being the top recruiting class they’ve had in awhile. Every day, (I'll) contact as many guys as I can, build friendships and draw trustworthy relationships,” he said. “I think they’re taking 16 (players). Put together a group of 15 guys and myself to be as close to perfection as possible.”

Which leads me to a few questions I'd the MGoCommunity to take a stab at. First, why such a small class? With him in the mix, plus Ferns, and hopefully the McDowell and Hand tandem, that leaves only twelve spots. Also, how do you think our recruiting compares to that of Ohio in terms of raw talent and addressing areas of need?

See it through.

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February 7th, 2013 at 2:09 PM | Hand is not coming here. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
February 7th, 2013 at 2:12 PM | People need to stop throwing (Score:5 Normal)
david from wyoming
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People need to stop throwing around opinions like they are facts.

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February 7th, 2013 at 4:46 PM | I thought that's why message boards exist (Score:-1 Normal)
February 7th, 2013 at 10:19 PM | Well (Score:1 Normal)
MScoutRecruits
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While it may be an "opinion" that Hand is not going to end up at Michigan, it is a VERY sensible one.  I would be utterly shocked if he ended up anywhere other than Virginia Tech or Alabama right now. Does Michigan have a shot?  Sure.  But, we are WAY, WAY behind right now in his recruitment and that is not merely an opinion.

February 7th, 2013 at 2:13 PM | What's the matter Braylon? (Score:5 Normal)
Frito Bandito
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What's the matter Braylon? Still pissed about your little bro?

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February 7th, 2013 at 2:19 PM | HA +1000 (Score:5 Normal)
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HA +1000

February 7th, 2013 at 2:16 PM | Coach Mattison might have (Score:5 Normal)
turtleboy
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Coach Mattison might have something to say about that.

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February 7th, 2013 at 2:16 PM | How many times did we hear (Score:5 Normal)
Kaminski16
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How many times did we hear this about Derrick Green?

See it through.

February 7th, 2013 at 4:04 PM | Yep. I'll man up and admit (Score:2 Normal)
Logan88
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Yep. I'll man up and admit that I thought UM would never get Green until about 2 weeks before he announced. Surprised the hell out of me that UM landed him. Let's hope he lives up to the hype.

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

February 7th, 2013 at 9:46 PM | I was wrong also (Score:1)
m83econ
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Right up until the screen rolled up to reveal a Michigan jersey I thought he would go somewhere else.  He kept it close to the vest, not easy for anyone to do with all the attention.

February 7th, 2013 at 2:20 PM | Good thing you're the expert (Score:5 Normal)
hailtothevectors
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Hand has Michigan in his Top 5 and lists Hoke and co. as his favorite coaching staff. So while its far from a sure thing there's reason to believe its a possibility. Maybe you shouldn't so matter of factly dismiss the notions of other people unless you have some sort of insider info that apparently no one else knows. Maybe you could start realizing that

February 7th, 2013 at 2:23 PM | So, you're saying that he (Score:5 Normal)
jericho
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So, you're saying that he should talk to The Hand?

 

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

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February 7th, 2013 at 2:25 PM | Just my own... (Score:3 Normal)
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...personal opinion, but I think tha tit will be very hard to persuade Hand to select Michigan over Virginia Tech. I think it's a race between those two schools, and the local connection is likely to make the difference. I will be very happy if I'm not correct.

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February 7th, 2013 at 2:28 PM | just like with Derrick Green, (Score:5 Normal)
Real Tackles Wear 77
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just like with Derrick Green, right?

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February 7th, 2013 at 3:40 PM | Just like Laquon Treadwell, (Score:-1 Trolling)
February 7th, 2013 at 4:52 PM | Only one of those guys chose (Score:5 Normal)
denardogasm
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Only one of those guys chose the local school...

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February 8th, 2013 at 10:01 AM | No, not anything... (Score:2)
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...like Derrick Green. Green never professed any significant interest in VT or UVa. Hand has. So your counter is invalid on its own.

As I stated in my carefully craft tit post, I won't be surprised to see Hand select Michigan, I'm just not counting on it.

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February 8th, 2013 at 11:04 AM | Overall, Green listed the (Score:2)
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Overall, Green listed the Hokies as one of eight schools standing out in an interview earlier this week. The other seven are Alabama, Pittsburgh, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Clemson, Oregon and Wisconsin.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373887

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February 8th, 2013 at 1:06 PM | That's a June 2012... (Score:2)
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...article. As we know, of those schools none made his final three. So, yeah. Great find, Magnus.

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February 8th, 2013 at 1:27 PM | "Green never professed any (Score:2)
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"Green never professed any significant interest in VT or UVa."

Virginia Tech was in his top eight at one point, so it all depends on your definition of "serious interest."  I don't think "serious interest" has to include the final three.  He took visits last July and August to Georgia and Ole Miss, respectively.  Does that mean he never showed significant interest in them, either?  I mean, he went to VT when they were supposed to have their spring game.  To me that's fairly significant.

Oh, and if Michigan has to be in your final three in order to have shown "significant interest," then I guess we can't say that Hand has "significant interest" in Michigan.  After all, he only has a top five so far.

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February 7th, 2013 at 2:43 PM | Tha tit (Score:5 Normal)
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Tha tit should get very hard if you're touching it properly

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

February 7th, 2013 at 3:43 PM | my thoughts exactly (Score:1)
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my thoughts exactly

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February 7th, 2013 at 6:30 PM | OT- But... (Score:2)
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February 7th, 2013 at 2:23 PM | You need to realize Michigan (Score:2 Normal)
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You need to realize Michigan is a major player for Hand, he is looking into engineering and that's why Michigan is still in it

February 7th, 2013 at 2:27 PM | Given that we are in his (Score:5 Normal)
Real Tackles Wear 77
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Given that we are in his stated top 5 and possess his stated "favorite coaching staff" we seem to be in the strongest position to nab him as any other school at this early juncture. You are just as clueless as the Buckeye fans who seem to think that St. Urban will pull in anyone with 5 stars next to their name

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February 7th, 2013 at 6:05 PM | Lets not ignore what he said (Score:2 Normal)
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Lets not ignore what he said about VT:

"Coach Lawing is my favorite recruiter, but Bud Foster is my favorite coach. He's just a nice guy, and I can talk to him about anything. We barely talk about football. Virginia Tech is close to home, and they're the hometown favorite. Everybody knows that if I had to choose between Virginia and Virginia Tech I would choose Virginia Tech. Of course, they have that great engineering program also."

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February 7th, 2013 at 3:15 PM | With our Engineering (Score:4 Normal)
MichiganMan_24_
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With our Engineering program,he has already said he enjoys the UM coaching staff more than any other,good chance at early PT its quite obvious why we are in his top 5..i think its VTech with UM a close 2

February 7th, 2013 at 7:57 PM | Also, (Score:3 Normal)
Victor Hale II
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Hand has not even visited Michigan yet, correct? Nice to be in the top 5 without even a visit.

February 7th, 2013 at 2:15 PM | I know 1 thing about this class (Score:3 Normal)
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It better have at least 2 blue chip wideouts.

February 7th, 2013 at 2:16 PM | Here's the scholarship (Score:3 Normal)
Magnus
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Here's the scholarship breakdown for next year:

http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2013/02/2013-scholarship-count.html

You can see that 16 guys are scheduled to graduate.

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February 7th, 2013 at 2:18 PM | Shameless as (Score:5 Normal)
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Shameless as always...

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February 7th, 2013 at 5:58 PM | ChopsBusted? He's a cousin of (Score:5 Normal)
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ChopsBusted? He's a cousin of mine.

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February 7th, 2013 at 2:24 PM | Well this is awkward... (Score:5 Normal)
Kaminski16
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Well this is awkward...

See it through.

February 7th, 2013 at 2:28 PM | Magnus (Score:1)
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I know we are not supposed to speculate on 5 years, but I can see 1 or 2 maybe in that group that may not hang around?

February 7th, 2013 at 2:33 PM | It is not really speculating (Score:2)
ken725
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It is not really speculating to say that because attrition is and will always be a given in college football. 

It would be speculating to say __________ and __________ are going to leave.

Greetings from Bolivia.

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February 7th, 2013 at 4:02 PM | Attrition (Score:1)
BobbyRizigliana
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I think of "attrition" separately from 5th year seniors:

Attrition - John Doe, Jr LB, threw a kid through a window last night at charlies and was kicked off the team.

Whereas the 5th year discussion is much more specific and relies less on chance. Speculating on attrition is different than speculating on 5th year returnees.

February 7th, 2013 at 2:45 PM | Judging by the way Terrence (Score:3 Normal)
Magnus
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Judging by the way Terrence Robinson and Khoury were handled, I don't see how some of those guys find a scholarship for a fifth year...

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February 7th, 2013 at 2:30 PM | Jones? (Score:1)
Milty
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Isn't Jones a prime candidate to not get a 5th year (since we need to free up 2 schollies by Aug), thereby reducing the initial number of available spaces to 15?

February 7th, 2013 at 3:43 PM |  Wasn't the 2013 class (Score:1)
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 Wasn't the 2013 class origanally supposed to be a small 15-18 recruit class?

February 7th, 2013 at 3:45 PM | Yeah...I want to say it was (Score:2 Normal)
Magnus
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Yeah...I want to say it was supposed to be about 17 strong about a year ago, so it's clearly inflated quite a bit.  The 2014 class is almost certainly going to be bigger than 16, so we'll just have to wait and see how big it gets.

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February 7th, 2013 at 4:47 PM | Transfers (Score:0 Trolling)
February 7th, 2013 at 4:50 PM | Don't want to oversign (Score:-1 Trolling)
February 7th, 2013 at 6:49 PM | What about Gardner? (Score:1)
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Does he still have a chance at getting a redshirt for his freshman year? Or was he denied and I missed it?

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February 7th, 2013 at 7:09 PM | Nothing has changed in the (Score:2)
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Nothing has changed in the Gardner situation.

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February 7th, 2013 at 2:19 PM | 2014 (Score:3 Normal)
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Hoke needs more 2014 commits. I am in withdrawal after yesterday.

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February 7th, 2013 at 2:42 PM | Was one 2014 commitment (Score:5 Normal)
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Was one 2014 commitment yesterday not enough?

USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011

February 7th, 2013 at 2:49 PM | Don't commits usually... (Score:5 Normal)
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...come in pairs?

February 7th, 2013 at 4:38 PM | Know what else comes in pairs? (Score:5 Normal)
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Know what else comes in pairs?

February 7th, 2013 at 6:01 PM | Garden hoses? (Score:5 Normal)
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Garden hoses?

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February 7th, 2013 at 6:33 PM | *innuendo about my garden (Score:5 Normal)
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*innuendo about my garden hose here*

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