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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:32 AM
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Our Attitude as fans

I know many of you will recognize this but I will not mention any "internet names", but those of you who know this post and or poster go ahead and share if you feel the need. That is not what my post is about, I just want to ask how we as fans should respond to fellow "fans" (it pained me to use that word for them) and if any of you feel the same way. I for one am wholeheartedly against everything this post stands for and have never been more upset with a fellow "fan" (term used loosely). Here we go, from you probably know where and who:

"What a disgrace. What an absolute embarrassing act by RR today. He looked like a damn fool up there. He should have said the basic official "we are investigating and I have no comment until after the investigation is complete." And leave it at that. Now we have a crying coach on ESPN. Great.

I saw a man who is breaking under the pressure. He can't handle it. He is in way over his head. And it is so clear when watching him today. He isn't going to last much longer. This job is going to destroy him. Everything that the Michigan job brings with it, the added pressure, the added spotlight, the media watching every single little thing you do and pouncing on every slip up you make, he can't handle it. It is beating him down. You have to be a certain type of person to handle the Michigan job and he can't do it.

It is clear players don't like him, alumni don't like him, fans don't like him, and some inside the Athletic Department don't like him either. This entire thing is a disaster and never should have happened. Martin botched the hiring processes as bad as you can.

Can you imagine what the locker room must be like? This team is divided and they are going to fall a part at the first sign of adversity, which will happen Saturday. All of a sudden that game looks a whole lot harder. The crowd is going to turn on him real quick. When they announce him as head coach I'm predicting a 50/50 reaction of cheers and boos. And if that game starts going Western's way it is going to get ugly.

This is the beginning of the end."

Again, I did not write this, I do not agree with it, just wanted some opinions and to know if I was overreacting when I told someone I wanted to kick "poster" in the shins. And steal his dog. Nothing against his dog obviously, I would be doing it for the dog's sake. He needs a good home. Anyway...

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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 AM
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People are entitled to their

People are entitled to their own opinions. No matter how stupid, incorrect, and poorly conceived they are, people have that entitlement.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 9:48 AM
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In this world there are opinions that exist and then there is

truth. The truth is that we are on the right path. Period.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:57 AM
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Here is a good article

This is a link to a good article about RR in his Tulane years.
In this, it goes directly against the idea that he was faking the tears or emotion. It is a good read.

***side note***
I gotta give Gregg Henson credit for leading me to this on Facebook.

http://www.neworleans.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2...

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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 AM
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Thanks for this, good read.

Thanks for this, good read.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 AM
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+1 for that article. People

+1 for that article. People need to step back and let Rodriguez coach.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 8:30 AM
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Nice article. It's amazing

Nice article. It's amazing to me that people would accuse RR of faking his emotions during the press conference. And sadly, it's probably true that some of our "open-minded" fanbase dislikes him for his accent. They'll have to get over it.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 AM
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I don't agree

I obviously don't agree with all that he is saying, but he is entitled to it. There are just those whom find comfort in assuming the worst and hoping for the best. These are people who have been disappointed in their lives many times and like everyone feeling the way that they do. I know it's easy to criticize, who couldn't find a basket of problems surrounding the program now? I think it shows a lot more character to keep the faith that the team will rebound and head on to a great season(s). If you really feel that strongly that this program is headed out of control and going no where then please move your "fan loyalty" to the next team that can keep up your self esteem. I hear Florida should be a nice pick for you seeing as how they're #1 now and have another top ranked recruiting class coming in...we'll see you in January in a couple years.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:08 AM
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Premature

That comment (whoever said it) is based way too much on emotion.
Ignore it. These comments will go away soon enough. I'm tired of all this BS. Let's just start the season.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 AM
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So easy to tell who posted

So easy to tell who posted that and where. Said person is an embarrassment, and I am ashamed to cheer for the same team he does.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:07 AM
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Blue boy johnson
Joined: 03/15/2009
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To quote the poet/philosopher

To quote the poet/philosopher Billy Ocean, "when the going gets tough the tough get going".
"any fool can criticize and complain and most do" Forgot who to credit this gem too.
RR will be fine.
I do not know which poster you are referring too and don't really care what the dumb ass thinks, if what you inserted is typical of his brilliance.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 AM
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And another thing. Not really

And another thing. Not really, just trying to cover up an excessive involuntary post.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 AM
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Poster

I've never looked at that page before, but it didn't take too long to find out who it was on which website.

He quite clearly notes that he graduated all of last year.
That would most likely make him 22 or so.

Sorry people, but 22's STILL a kid. 22 lacks maturity and enough life experience to realize that 10 years down the line things like this may not make much of a difference. That possibly less than 5 years may erase memories of this.

This person obviously doesn't have terribly good control of himself as of yet with the way that post comes off. Give him another 10 years and _hopefully_ he'll do a little maturing and learn to take a somewhat longer view of things other than the next 10 minutes.

EDIT: Their terms of service require posters to control themselves. I would say he violates their terms of service. That was just about more troll than true fan, that post.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 AM
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I bet people would call me a

I bet people would call me a liar if I disclosed MY age...

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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 AM
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led zeppelin

Is that a LZ picture? If it is, I wouldn't imagine you're extremely young. However, if you are, I would say you do a somewhat better job of controlling yourself and looking at a more complete picture than the poster on that other site.

I've not got a great handle on who's what around here but I know run your blog and you're a Wings fan on top of everything else.
So that pushes you up a notch as far as I'm concerned.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 AM
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It depends on post content

IMHE, there are two major categories of posts from fellow fans, each of which requires a different response.

1) If a fellow fan exhibits a different epinion from your own, and from your perspective, shows ignorance or stupidity, I would just ignore it and move on. There's actually an old book that speaks to this situation. Here's the relevant quote: "Anyone who rebukes a mocker will get an insult in return. Anyone who corrects the wicked will get hurt. So don’t bother correcting mockers; they will only hate you. But correct the wise, and they will love you."

Because of the anonymity of bloggers, and because I can't count the number of times I have read "turn your sarcasm meter on," it seems rarely worth taking issue with a post you disagree with. With the exception of well known bloggers (i.e., mgoblog mods & Brian,) you can't assume anyone will accept correction. To put it another way, "you can't fix stupid."

2) If a fellow fan exhibits a different epinion from your own, but suggests violence toward someone (especially women,) suggests rape, lynching, stalking, uses extremely offensive language, gets into racist comments, etc., etc., you need to forward the link to [email protected]. Let mgoblog decide, but this kind of stuff needs the banhammer, points reset to zero, or significant censure at the least.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 3:04 AM
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Not Sure I Get This

I don't know if this is pro or anti RR. And it is very long. What are you trying to say again?

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September 3rd, 2009 at 3:28 AM
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OP is pro RR

But OP quotes another post that is critical of RR. Point of quote is for OP to ask fellow fans how to respond to a post you disagree with.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 4:44 AM
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psychomatt
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Huh?

Respond with logical arguments why you disagree. It is not all that complicated.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 AM
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He's trying to explain to you

He's trying to explain to you that the OP is quoting another poster somewhere, on a mystery message board that I can't recall. It isn't exactly clear, perhaps Blockquotes would have made it clearer. The quote is from a someone who clearly is not a fan of RichRod.

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September 3rd, 2009 at 6:26 AM
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You didn't overract..

My only suggestion would be to replace "shins" with "sacks."

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September 3rd, 2009 at 6:41 AM
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There are a lot of dickheads

There are a lot of dickheads posing as "Michigan Fans"

but for the most part, the overwhelming majority of true Michigan fans and alums support the program and want it to succeed...

a house divided usually does not stand...

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September 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 AM
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Guy needs to find a new team

Guy needs to find a new team to cheer for.

(Not the OP obviously, the one being quoted.)

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September 3rd, 2009 at 2:00 PM
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Perfect Example

of the "slippery slope" logical fallacy, among others.

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