Don't like this post? Downvote it, oh wait you have less than imaginary negative internet points to harm me with.
But srsly, can we have them back? Now that it's offseason, let's get back to what truly matters: MGoPoints.
Posbanging, not as much.
I'm going to have to start being more cautious with what I'm saying.
Haha I was wondering how long it was going to take until this thread was posted after the season got over.
I have been biding my time.
"King of Belch," was it neg-bangs or ban-hammers that did him in?
The neg-bang is a two-edged sword -- it can give voice to righteousness or sheep-like conformity. That said, I did enjoy the occasional meltdown or pos-bang.
I think it was the ban-hammer; I seem to remember a mod replying to a comment saying "This was the one that did it". I miss that crazy old bastard though.
posting on this blog, I said something unpopular and wound up in the negative... but I climbed out. It doesn't take too much effort to understand the general mood of this board.
There is no perfect system. It is inevitable that a quality poster will get neg banged due to group think, a misunderstanding, or a one time lapse in judgement. However, IMO, it is a sacrifice I'm willing to make to improve the quality of posts on this board.
FTR, the comment that set me back but pretty mild compared to some of the garbage posts that get thrown up daily.
Also, FWIW, I emailed Brian to express some frustration with the current system, and he responded that a tweaking was in the plans post football season.
If I had enough points, you'd get may pobang!! fer' sure, ya' betcha' !!
I'm boycotting MGoBlog unless neg/pos banging comes back.
/checks MGoBlog 5 minutes later
I'm intrigued by your ideas, and wish to subscibe to your newsletter.
can someone explain what difference this makes. I've read the rules and know you can down/upvote after a certain number of points, so what would bringing these things back change?
Under the old system, a person's Mgopoints fluctuated up and down in correspondance to the upvotes or downvotes their post was given from other members. As of now, your Mgopoints only go up 1 point for every post.
Exhibits A through ZZ and 1A through Z million as to why we need the negbang back.
I really miss them. It was awesome when somebody would post something ridiculous and watch helplessly as their point total evaporated. Conversely it was waaaay cool when you'd say something pithy or snarky and people could upvote your wit.
It was one hell of an effecient policemen in keeping crap off the board and encouraging people with something to say to say it. If I remember correctly it was collateral damage in the great malware disaster of '11. Nobody wanted it gone and for a while Brian promised it would come back once he got a handle on all the other issues he was dealing with at the time. I'll bet if we put it to a vote it would drop 9-1 in favor of restoration.
Bring it back Brian......bring it back!
You are 100 percent spot on with your analysis.
While Brian is at it is it possible to move trusted user status up to 1000?
The posbang and negbangs disappeared during the great crash last year. Are you guys willing to pony up some cash to Brian in order to have this restarted? Afterall, likely requires some programming costs, so put your money where your posts and mouth are!
WHEN THE HINDENBURG CRASHED, DID WE AS HUMANS SAY FLIGHT WAS IMPOSSIBLE??? NO!!!!
But quit yelling....you're ruining my quiet dinner with my wife.
I'm sure being on your iPad is just adding to the intimacy of your evening
WHAT IF THE DELANCEY'S COME OUT SINGIN', WILL WE HEAR IT???
until we decide it is!!! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No......
But we did say zeppelin travel was done.
WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?!!!!!
I have a feeling we have the current system because it was free to implement and largely met Brian's goals. If he's open to reverting to the old system (?) I'd like to see how much it would cost. Probably a couple thousand dollars depending on how good a deal he can get on a developer.
"Points. We don't need no stinking points"
Oh wait yes I do.
upvotes : me : : green eyed beauty : Lo Pan
I remember learning quite a bit about the ins and outs here based on which posts were soundly negged and which ones were upvoted. This was a valuable life experience and I think others would benefit.
My pithy sarcasm and enhanced writing capability are not due to Great Books, but rather that most-difficult of tutors, the MGoBlog community.
I would be out of points in five minutes. I need a sarcasm font! F!
How about we bring back upvotes and downvotes? I know Brian likes it, but the reaction to the new moderation system has been overwhelmingly negative. Upvotes and downvotes are much better, and the vast majority of mgobloggers feel this way.
the old system is fairly exhaustively explained in the MgoBoard FAQ and comments there; has the new system ever been clearly explained anywhere? Part of my discomfort with the new system is just from not really understanding how it works.
Someone did finally explain the "moderate" button to me. How about "karma?"
Karma is a reward/punishment for having consistently good/bad posts. If the vast majority of my comments were upvoted, at some point my comments would just start with a score of 2 instead of 1. Conversely, if I prove to be a terrible commenter and most of my posts are downvoted, my new posts will start with a score of 0. It's easy to move back and forth (negative karma isn't a death sentence), and it is a good way of highlighting good posts.
the problem with it was if you wrote something contrarian, but it based in fact, you still were neg-banged to bolivian just because your post didn't positively reflect on the program, coach player or decision of the day. It did stifle free speech to a point.
Now, I will agree there is way too much ridiculousness on the board these days and some of the more insightful posters have left the building, but I think that was due more to the harshness of the negativity towards some subjects as opposed to too many free opinions flying around the board.
btw, I negbanged the OP cuz that was them thar direkshuns.
might be possible. Something along the lines of posbang/negbang, plus senior overlords. This could be where the average poster could posbang/negbang all they would like. However, senior posters--with let's say above 1500 points--could correct the situation or give points as is done now. This way all the fun of banging, but the free speech security of old people.
what about new-comers with clearly plainspoken ideas on sensitive topics? (Perhaps someone with background knowledge coming from outside the Mgoblogosphere?) Some of the most interesting albeit controversial observations from commenters came before the pos/neg-bang system, around the time of Carr's last season. There hasn't been a lot of commentary from people with deep background coming from outside the Mgoblog family since that time.
Some of the RR-related flame wars indicate that senior overlords may not be the short-cut to serene governance. One of the more distressing sights under any system is the sight of oldtimers with points in the 10,000's slinging ad-hominems at each other.
Once someone loses 100 points is there a real difference? I also would propose something along the lines of a cap on how much one post could be neg/pos banged.
I don't know that contrarian posts necessarily got blown up...I repped my Canadian team at the 2010 Olympics and the board was completely reasonable. I never underestimate the common sense of the board.
The democracy of the neg isn't based upon harshness of negativity; it's about blowign up posts that suck.
brian always makes site improvements after football season. maybe this will be one of them.
It was fun to see a humorous post get 25 posbangs.
I don't care what Brian does on this. There are positives and negatives both. What I don't really like is that it makes mgoblog into a beauty contest. Probably shouldn't be commenting anyway.