OTish: Gunner Kiel transferring from ND

Submitted by julesh on

Kiel Intends to Transfer

A friend of mine who is a ND fan has be suspecting this might be happening since something happened around the NC. I think it was that Kiel didn't specifically say that he was rooting for ND on Twitter? Something like that.

WolvinLA2

March 7th, 2013 at 9:15 PM ^

That really doesn't say a whole lot though.  Just because one top program doesn't need you doesn't mean a ton of others won't.  If that AQ team took another solid QB in this class and one in 2013 as well, it's possible they don't think he'd worth a scholarship.  

I doubt M would want him, for example.  Doesn't mean most of the Big Ten wouldn't though.

814 East U

March 7th, 2013 at 8:47 PM ^

This dude must really struggle with scantron tests....its A....wait (erase) D?.....(erase) C!.....(erase)....it has to be B doesn't it?

Repeat process for all 50 questions

denardogasm

March 7th, 2013 at 9:10 PM ^

For someone who was so quiet during the recruiting process and so determined to wait it out and make a good decision, this kid is the definition of a flake.

Committed

March 7th, 2013 at 9:28 PM ^

No way...



The guy who flip flopped over 3 schools wants to transfer when competition hits? Woulda never guessed it...



He was supposed to be the savior of Indiana football. Wait...JK



He was supposed to be the air apparent at LSU...Nope.



Then he was sure ND was the spot where he could be the next great QB...haha nawww



Arkansas St? Build a team full of transfers and throwaways.



ppToilet

March 7th, 2013 at 9:28 PM ^

Because you'll be the guy when Golson gets hurt.

Every QB gets hurt nowadays. The backup gets their chance. The fan base then turns on the starter if the team isn't winning. I'll wait to see Mathlete's take down the road, but my guess is ND is headed for the dreaded "regression to the mean" rather than Bama's "the exception proves the rule" dominance. Kiel would have gotten his chance at a big name school.

With that said, he's a kid and he wants to be "the guy". I don't blame him but he needs to stick to his next decision.

UMgradMSUdad

March 8th, 2013 at 8:32 AM ^

This Chicago Tribune story alludes to some of the issues:

Only Leon Burtnett, George's first coach at Purdue and fired offensive coordinator of the Colts, is willing to speculate. Burtnett, who remains "very close" to George, still believes George's image as a spoiled mama's boy who flees adversity is the result of shoddy reporting of his 1986 transfer from Purdue to Illinois via a flirtation with Miami.

 

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-07-30/sports/9307300092_1_leon-burtnett-purdue-death-threats

Leon Burnett is probably right about published reports about George's mother directly intervening in his career not coming out until after he transferred, and some of the reporting very well may have been shoddy.  Understand, though, that Burnett was fired by Purdue and seems to have an axe to grind.  Also, I was a grad student at Purdue at the time, and from the time he set foot on campus, when he was the heralded savior for Purdue football, there were stories about George's helicopter mother complaining about the treatment of her special little snowflake and basically just making a nusiance of herself.

BILG

March 7th, 2013 at 9:57 PM ^

Everyone gives Les Miles for being bat shit crazy at times, and deservedly so, but he was dead on about this guy.  Sure, his comments originated from the bitterness of Kiel flip flopping away from LSU, but all schools including LSU have recruits snake oiled away, but rarely hear a coach so blatantly criticize a kid for flipping.

Les sensed it, this kid is a flake and mentally weak, not up for the competition.

LSAClassOf2000

March 7th, 2013 at 10:06 PM ^

Fort Wayne's paper makes an attempt to do a deeper dive here...(LINK)

More specifically, at the end of the article, they mention a series of tweets sent by Kiel over the last month which they attempt to tie to Kiel's considering this transfer despite saying during the NC game that it had not crossed his mind despite being closer to the cellar of the QB depth chart. 

It's just interesting that, in the interview mentioned in this article, he seems to be fine with the idea that he wasn't going to see playing time this year, and yet, here he is...beginning the next phase of the journey: TransferQuest. 

snoopblue

March 7th, 2013 at 10:34 PM ^

I guess like Les Miles said, he didnt have the chest to compete. LOL I agree about the above comment about Indiana Football. Definitely on the upswing and I could see big things from them offensively. Indiana Defense? Yeah, no.

jasonmkeith

March 7th, 2013 at 11:18 PM ^

 

This guy was a mess even through his recruitment.  He should have stuck with Indiana, since at least he would get on the field.  I guess Bloomington could be his next stop.

I can't wait to see Frank Clark crush him like a grape.

 

Decatur Jack

March 7th, 2013 at 11:33 PM ^

Frankly I'm surprised that a lot of people are saying he'll end up at a MAC school.

This kid was the #1 pro-style QB coming out of high school in 2012 with tons of offers from the Big Ten and the SEC.

Yeah, I get that his flakiness is really, really unattractive, but I'd be shocked if he end up playing in the MAC or at a JC (unless he tries to go the JC route in order to play at a Div-1 school quicker).

I don't think he sniffs SEC country except maybe Tennessee, which is the closest SEC team to his home.

More plausible options imo are:

Indiana (long shot; does Wilson take him back?),

Cincy (Tommy Tubbs will need a QB after this year),

Kansas (Weis will take a ND reject any day of the week), or

Iowa (doesn't KF need a QB these days?)

Decatur Jack

March 9th, 2013 at 4:05 PM ^

is that there are at least two already elite-ish underclassmen QBs on the roster that Kiel would have to battle against (Nathan Peterman and Riley Ferguson). Normally I'd say no problem, but Everett Golson was ranked worlds below Kiel at ND, and Golson won the job because of patience and timing.

Considering that Kiel has to sit out a year, while he's there waiting, Peterman or Ferguson could have locked down the starting job by the time Kiel's eligible.

You have to think that Kiel's decision is primarily going to come down to playing time and proximity to home. If playing time is hugely more important, and if Kiel doesn't get a wittle homesick, then that opens up a wide array of options.

And you have to ask: which school needs a QB not this year, but next year? That's the school Kiel is likely to pick.

However, if playing time and proximity to home are around the same level, I have to think that Cincinnati is his best bet.*

Tuberville has two senior QBs to work with in 2013 but no one proven or anywhere near as talented as Kiel beyond that. Transferring to Cincy immediately and sitting out 2013 so that he can take over as a RS JR in 2014 seems like the best plan at this point.

(*It's relatively close and has a much more open depth chart to ND. The only other plausible example in this vein is Indiana, but that hinges entirely on whether Kiel and Wilson can put the Dusty Kiel issue and the commit-decommit business behind them.)

Arizona Blue

March 8th, 2013 at 10:08 AM ^

I really think this kid will land at a BCS level school...This is not overly suprising given the fact that he was behind a sophomore on the depth chart. He probably wanted to play soon and wasnt going to get that at ND.