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OTish: Gunner Kiel transferring from ND
March 7th, 2013 at 10:02 PM | 
Bruce Feldman
Bruce Feldman
March 7th, 2013 at 10:12 PM |
@BFeldmanCBS: Re: Gunner Kiel
@BFeldmanCBS: Re: Gunner Kiel
@BFeldmanCBS: Re: Gunner Kiel transferring from ND. One coach at a big AQ program told me he declined Kiel's interest last month
March 7th, 2013 at 10:15 PM |
That really doesn't say a
That really doesn't say a
That really doesn't say a whole lot though. Just because one top program doesn't need you doesn't mean a ton of others won't. If that AQ team took another solid QB in this class and one in 2013 as well, it's possible they don't think he'd worth a scholarship.
I doubt M would want him, for example. Doesn't mean most of the Big Ten wouldn't though.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:19 PM |
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Thanks.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football." - John Heisman
March 8th, 2013 at 10:15 AM |
True
True
It was Hoke.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:47 PM |
A five star transferring away
A five star transferring away
A five star transferring away from Notre Dame??!! That never happens.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:50 PM |
Yah pretty crazy how much 5
Yah pretty crazy how much 5
Yah pretty crazy how much 5 star talent has come and gone in the last 2 years. Luckily it seems that most of them haven't amounted to much.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:06 PM |
This is probably the one
This is probably the one
This is probably the one position you guys could afford a transfer.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:47 PM |
This dude must really
This dude must really
This dude must really struggle with scantron tests....its A....wait (erase) D?.....(erase) C!.....(erase)....it has to be B doesn't it?
Repeat process for all 50 questions
3-3-5 til the day I die y'all
March 7th, 2013 at 9:51 PM |
Could this be a record for
Could this be a record for
Could this be a record for the fastest a ND QB has failed to live up to the hype? Usually it takes until the NFL.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:54 PM |
I saw in an article where
I saw in an article where
I saw in an article where Kiel said he'd stay at ND until he won as many Heismans as Ron Pawlus and Jimmy Clausen combined.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:15 PM |
I just laughed really hard at
I just laughed really hard at
I just laughed really hard at this. Well played sir, well played.
Formerly akron_wolverine and columbus_wolverine. New home, new name. A year in Columbus was enough.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:04 PM |
Love your profile pic
Love your profile pic
MMMMMM....FOOD.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:09 PM |
He beat out Dayne Christ
He beat out Dayne Christ
He beat out Dayne Christ
March 7th, 2013 at 9:58 PM |
Les Miles
Les Miles
Maybe Les Miles will have a change of heart and give him another chance.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:35 PM |
That's who Feldman was
That's who Feldman was
That's who Feldman was referring to....not!
March 7th, 2013 at 11:23 PM |
didn't les resign on monday
didn't les resign on monday
didn't les resign on monday since he got caught screwing a coed?
/s
March 7th, 2013 at 10:10 PM |
For someone who was so quiet
For someone who was so quiet
For someone who was so quiet during the recruiting process and so determined to wait it out and make a good decision, this kid is the definition of a flake.
"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.
-Craig Roh 10/29/2011
March 7th, 2013 at 10:24 PM |
Michigan State thought about
Michigan State thought about
Michigan State thought about it for a bit, but they decline due to having Andrew Maxwell on the roster.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:29 PM |
Wisconsin could use a guy...
Wisconsin could use a guy...
Wisconsin could use a guy like Gunner.
March 8th, 2013 at 1:19 PM |
He has too many years of
He has too many years of
He has too many years of eligibility left for them.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:28 PM |
No way...
The guy who flip
No way...
The guy who flip
No way...
The guy who flip flopped over 3 schools wants to transfer when competition hits? Woulda never guessed it...
He was supposed to be the savior of Indiana football. Wait...JK
He was supposed to be the air apparent at LSU...Nope.
Then he was sure ND was the spot where he could be the next great QB...haha nawww
Arkansas St? Build a team full of transfers and throwaways.
What every longshot, come from behind, underdog will tell ya is this... The other guy, may in fact, be the favorite. The odds may be stacked against you, fair enough. But what the odds don't know is...this isn't a math test.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:31 PM |
He was supposed to be the air
He was supposed to be the air
He was supposed to be the air apparent at LSU? They live and breathe that stuff down there. That would be a breeze.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:39 PM |
You should know about
You should know about
You should know about apparent air...only in a place like LA is it visible.
March 7th, 2013 at 11:30 PM |
More like the err apparent,
More like the err apparent,
More like the err apparent, amirite?
March 8th, 2013 at 12:37 AM |
"air apparent"?
"air apparent"?
I think you mean "heir apparent" there, Hemingway.
Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!
March 8th, 2013 at 9:40 AM |
Hey now, after all Junior did
Hey now, after all Junior did
Hey now, after all Junior did for the team, you have no business throwing him under the bus like that. Shame on you.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:28 PM |
Why sit behind Golson?
Why sit behind Golson?
Because you'll be the guy when Golson gets hurt.
Every QB gets hurt nowadays. The backup gets their chance. The fan base then turns on the starter if the team isn't winning. I'll wait to see Mathlete's take down the road, but my guess is ND is headed for the dreaded "regression to the mean" rather than Bama's "the exception proves the rule" dominance. Kiel would have gotten his chance at a big name school.
With that said, he's a kid and he wants to be "the guy". I don't blame him but he needs to stick to his next decision.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:54 PM |
Not worried, we have Rees for
Not worried, we have Rees for
Not worried, we have Rees for another year.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:31 PM |
http://collegefootballtalk.nb
http://collegefootballtalk.nb
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/17/moms-plea-led-to-gun...
I think we all saw this coming. I don't think his heart was ever set on ND. He basically just did it to make his mom happy.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
March 7th, 2013 at 11:07 PM |
Gee, a highly rated Indiana
Gee, a highly rated Indiana
Gee, a highly rated Indiana QB who flits from one school to another and has mommy issues...if I didn't know any better, I'd think we were talking about Jeff George.
March 7th, 2013 at 11:16 PM |
I'm not aware of this Jeff
I'm not aware of this Jeff
I'm not aware of this Jeff George story. Care to explain?
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
March 8th, 2013 at 8:56 AM |
George transferred from Purdue
George transferred from Purdue
Link. He left Purdue after they fired the coach that recruited him and hired Fred Akers, whose offenses tended to feature the ground game.
Where's Charlie Bauman when you need him?
March 8th, 2013 at 9:32 AM |
This Chicago Tribune story
This Chicago Tribune story
This Chicago Tribune story alludes to some of the issues:
Only Leon Burtnett, George's first coach at Purdue and fired offensive coordinator of the Colts, is willing to speculate. Burtnett, who remains "very close" to George, still believes George's image as a spoiled mama's boy who flees adversity is the result of shoddy reporting of his 1986 transfer from Purdue to Illinois via a flirtation with Miami.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-07-30/sports/9307300092_1_leon-burtnett-purdue-death-threats
Leon Burnett is probably right about published reports about George's mother directly intervening in his career not coming out until after he transferred, and some of the reporting very well may have been shoddy. Understand, though, that Burnett was fired by Purdue and seems to have an axe to grind. Also, I was a grad student at Purdue at the time, and from the time he set foot on campus, when he was the heralded savior for Purdue football, there were stories about George's helicopter mother complaining about the treatment of her special little snowflake and basically just making a nusiance of herself.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:35 PM |
Congrats Gunner Kiel
Congrats Gunner Kiel
You have now entered Alex Legion territory
March 7th, 2013 at 10:57 PM |
For all the shit
For all the shit
Everyone gives Les Miles for being bat shit crazy at times, and deservedly so, but he was dead on about this guy. Sure, his comments originated from the bitterness of Kiel flip flopping away from LSU, but all schools including LSU have recruits snake oiled away, but rarely hear a coach so blatantly criticize a kid for flipping.
Les sensed it, this kid is a flake and mentally weak, not up for the competition.
BILG
March 7th, 2013 at 11:06 PM |
Fort Wayne-Style Reporting...
Fort Wayne-Style Reporting...
Fort Wayne's paper makes an attempt to do a deeper dive here...(LINK)
More specifically, at the end of the article, they mention a series of tweets sent by Kiel over the last month which they attempt to tie to Kiel's considering this transfer despite saying during the NC game that it had not crossed his mind despite being closer to the cellar of the QB depth chart.
It's just interesting that, in the interview mentioned in this article, he seems to be fine with the idea that he wasn't going to see playing time this year, and yet, here he is...beginning the next phase of the journey: TransferQuest.
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March 7th, 2013 at 11:34 PM |
I guess like Les Miles said,
I guess like Les Miles said,
I guess like Les Miles said, he didnt have the chest to compete. LOL I agree about the above comment about Indiana Football. Definitely on the upswing and I could see big things from them offensively. Indiana Defense? Yeah, no.
March 8th, 2013 at 12:18 AM |
This guy...
This guy...
This guy was a mess even through his recruitment. He should have stuck with Indiana, since at least he would get on the field. I guess Bloomington could be his next stop.
I can't wait to see Frank Clark crush him like a grape.
March 8th, 2013 at 12:29 AM |
Remember when Ziel and Pike were our two top QB targets?
Remember when Ziel and Pike were our two top QB targets?
Maybe it's good we did not take a QB that year
March 8th, 2013 at 12:33 AM |
Frankly I'm surprised that a
Frankly I'm surprised that a
Frankly I'm surprised that a lot of people are saying he'll end up at a MAC school.
This kid was the #1 pro-style QB coming out of high school in 2012 with tons of offers from the Big Ten and the SEC.
Yeah, I get that his flakiness is really, really unattractive, but I'd be shocked if he end up playing in the MAC or at a JC (unless he tries to go the JC route in order to play at a Div-1 school quicker).
I don't think he sniffs SEC country except maybe Tennessee, which is the closest SEC team to his home.
More plausible options imo are:
Indiana (long shot; does Wilson take him back?),
Cincy (Tommy Tubbs will need a QB after this year),
Kansas (Weis will take a ND reject any day of the week), or
Iowa (doesn't KF need a QB these days?)
Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!
March 8th, 2013 at 9:37 AM |
Tennessee actually makes sense...
Tennessee actually makes sense...
Especially with Peyton's recent hand in some of the QB coaching (last year).
Also add Kentucky. They have a new coach who's a Stoops brother.
That said, I really like your list. Add Tennessee, which you kind of did. And I'll take your list over "the field."
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March 9th, 2013 at 5:05 PM |
The problem with Tennessee
The problem with Tennessee
is that there are at least two already elite-ish underclassmen QBs on the roster that Kiel would have to battle against (Nathan Peterman and Riley Ferguson). Normally I'd say no problem, but Everett Golson was ranked worlds below Kiel at ND, and Golson won the job because of patience and timing.
Considering that Kiel has to sit out a year, while he's there waiting, Peterman or Ferguson could have locked down the starting job by the time Kiel's eligible.
You have to think that Kiel's decision is primarily going to come down to playing time and proximity to home. If playing time is hugely more important, and if Kiel doesn't get a wittle homesick, then that opens up a wide array of options.
And you have to ask: which school needs a QB not this year, but next year? That's the school Kiel is likely to pick.
However, if playing time and proximity to home are around the same level, I have to think that Cincinnati is his best bet.*
Tuberville has two senior QBs to work with in 2013 but no one proven or anywhere near as talented as Kiel beyond that. Transferring to Cincy immediately and sitting out 2013 so that he can take over as a RS JR in 2014 seems like the best plan at this point.
(*It's relatively close and has a much more open depth chart to ND. The only other plausible example in this vein is Indiana, but that hinges entirely on whether Kiel and Wilson can put the Dusty Kiel issue and the commit-decommit business behind them.)
Full-on Decatur Clan. Whatever happens, GO BLUE!
March 8th, 2013 at 12:59 AM |
Chuck Weis
Chuck Weis
Charlie Weis is foaming at the mouth right now.
It has nothing to do with Gunner Kiel transferring though.
March 8th, 2013 at 4:26 AM |
If Gunner
If Gunner
went to KU, Weis would claim he's the 3rd best QB instantly behind Brady & Peyton, oh wait, that was Brady Quinn who was gonna be that and predictably didn't/wasn't.
March 8th, 2013 at 11:08 AM |
I really think this kid will
I really think this kid will
I really think this kid will land at a BCS level school...This is not overly suprising given the fact that he was behind a sophomore on the depth chart. He probably wanted to play soon and wasnt going to get that at ND.
the supreme head butt
March 8th, 2013 at 11:56 AM |
I stand corrected
I stand corrected
I stand corrected; Se'von Pittman is no longer the Alex Legion of NCAA football.
March 8th, 2013 at 12:45 PM |
He is the guy you go out to
He is the guy you go out to
He is the guy you go out to eat with that can't make up his mind on what to order and the waitress has to come back 2 or 3 times.
March 8th, 2013 at 12:58 PM |
Kids a little schitzo, but I'm surprised
Kids a little schitzo, but I'm surprised
it took him this long to realize ND's a toilet. Good for him.
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