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http://espn.go.com/high-school/story/_/id/7918253/girl-baseball-player-15-cited-opponent-forfeit-phoenix

Seriously This team forfited a game because they didn't want to play against a female player. I think we've gone back to the 18th century.

 

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:33 AM | I thought the year was (Score:5 Normal)
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I thought the year was 2012...  that is ridiculous 

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:34 AM | Actually, that specific (Score:5 Normal)
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Actually, that specific school is run by a religious group that refused to leave the 18th century (as opposed to returning to it).  They split off rather than accept Vatican reforms.  

Honestly I can't get all that worked up about it.  It's a private school and they have the right to do what they want.  They didn't raise a fuss or try to get the girl DQed, they just forfited.  Girl's team gets a first round bye out of the deal, not bad.

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:38 AM | They do have the right. (Score:3 Normal)
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They do have the right. Doesn't mean their views aren't archaic and stupid. JMO

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:48 AM | Let me get this straight... (Score:5 Normal)
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Bc they forfeited their game based on their tightly held beliefs, you are judging them and their views as being 'archiac and stupid'? How are you and your 'views' anymore accepting or not-stupid than theres?

 

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:51 AM | Tread Very Carefully (Score:3 Normal)
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No Politics or Religion.

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:54 AM | Thanks for espousing the (Score:5 Normal)
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Thanks for espousing the rules on a post where a I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy of his statement. Nowhere in the post was an opinion stated about religion or politics

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:57 AM | you're welcome.      (Score:5 Normal)
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you're welcome. 

 

 

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:36 PM | "Andrew Jackson Jihad" (Score:5 Normal)
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"Andrew Jackson Jihad" posting this was very funny to me for some reason.

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May 11th, 2012 at 1:37 PM | go ahead and neg me, ban me whatever... (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Go ahead and neg me, ban me whatever...religious dogma applied at that level is bullshit.  It's not Taliban level bullshit, but that isn't the appropriate comparison.  This is America fergodsakes.

We're gonna play with toughness, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna play with toughness.  This is Michigan.

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May 11th, 2012 at 1:52 PM | but if we ban you we'll never (Score:2 Normal)
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but if we ban you we'll never get to see your pretty face

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:53 AM | I never said mine weren't. (Score:3 Normal)
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I never said mine weren't. But *theirs* are in this case. I don't profess to know everything or that my beliefs are the only way or yada yada yada. Never will. But I do know this: It's silly to not play a game because the other team has a girl on it. You're saying we can't challenge beliefs? If we don't challenge beliefs and test them, nothing changes. Change is good and necessary for progress.

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Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
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May 11th, 2012 at 1:11 PM | lolz (Score:4 Normal)
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The irony of your statement makes me lolz.

In the same paragraph you say "I don't profess...that my beliefs are the only way or yada yada yada"  and "It's silly to not play a game because the other team has a girl on it."

Either be judgemental or don't be. 

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May 11th, 2012 at 1:26 PM | You left out a key part of my (Score:1 Flamebait)
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You left out a key part of my statement. So I lolz at you.

And I never said I wasn't judgmental. I am. But I also accept that I will be judged by others as well.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
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May 11th, 2012 at 11:56 AM | Wait (Score:5 Normal)
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 How in the world are their views NOT archaic and stupid?   Stating that women shouldn't play sports with men is without any question Archaic and it's also very stupid.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:00 PM | The idea that they can't is (Score:5 Normal)
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The idea that they can't is stupid, but where else do you see men and women playing organized sports together besides college rec sports? Seems like a stupid thing to take a stance on but I wouldn't treat this as something outside of the norm in sports to be honest.

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:05 PM | "but where else do you see (Score:1 Normal)
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"but where else do you see men and women playing organized sports together besides college rec sports?"

 

 A TON of high school sports have mixed teams because the high school doesn't offer the sport for girls or vice versa.   I work for a school district and I help out the AD with many tasks... while I would never claim to be an expert or anything close to that on the topic, i've come to discover the situation is pretty common.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:10 PM | Can you give some examples? (Score:3 Normal)
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Can you give some examples? I'm genuinely curious because that was unheard where I went to high school about 6 or 7 years ago.

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:19 PM | Girls on football teams (Score:5 Normal)
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That's not that rare...There was a girl on my 8th grade team, FWIW. 

EDIT:  There were 28 girls on Michigan h.s. football teams in 2010.  http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/sports/female-football-player-represents-remarkable-progress-for-women.html?pagewanted=all 

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:15 PM | Not entirly sure what you (Score:1 Normal)
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Not entirly sure what you mean by examples, the most I would really put forth are anecdotal stories.... which don't mean much.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:18 PM | You said a TON of sports do. (Score:5 Normal)
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You said a TON of sports do. What sports? Where? I'll take anectodal stories over nothing.

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:24 PM | Off the top of my head (Score:4 Normal)
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 There were females that played on both our Lacrosse team, and our Football team.  We've competed against schools that have had women on their Hockey Team (more than a few),  Baseball and another girl was on the basketball team but she didn't make the trip to our school so I never got to see her play.

 All the schools are located in the subs of Cinnci.   

 

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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May 11th, 2012 at 3:59 PM | Women being allowed to play on boys teams (Score:1 Normal)
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for football and lacrosse is archaic and stupid. There I said it. And not one person can logically or sensibly counter that in any way. My statement has precisely as much sense, data and logic behind it as those who say the team refusing to play the girl's team has arachaic and stupid rules.

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May 11th, 2012 at 4:27 PM | archaic = very old or old-fashioned . .. (Score:3 Normal)
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So it doesn't apply to women playing football or lacrosse. 

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May 14th, 2012 at 11:41 AM | If only (Score:1)
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 If only you know what the definition of Archaic meant.   Really makes the rest of your post look pretty idiotic.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:19 PM | Example: My HS soccer team (Score:4 Normal)
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My high school soccer team was coed. We were a Class C school that didn't have enough people to field two soccer teams (nor did any other team in our league). So we always had a few girls on the team, and opponents' teams occasionally had girls, too.

I am this close to going all Dark Blue in here.

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May 11th, 2012 at 4:21 PM | There was a girl on my high (Score:3 Normal)
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There was a girl on my high school jv football team, and this was my sophmore year of high school, so fall of 2005, and this was actually in northern VA (this was included in case your screename also indicates where you wen to high school, to show that it happened in your area around the same time you went to high school.) She wasn't very good and didnt really play, but she was definitely allowed on the team.


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May 11th, 2012 at 4:22 PM | Also, I believe there was (Score:2)
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Also, I believe there was like a Sportscenter special on like 3 girls playing on one team, and also, Holley Mangold.


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May 11th, 2012 at 7:05 PM | One... (Score:2 Normal)
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...of my classmates:

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1137475/index.htm

 

And my hs gf played on the "men's" hockey team.

As a matter of fact I like beer.

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May 12th, 2012 at 1:25 AM | One of my teammates on the (Score:3 Normal)
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One of my teammates on the guys golf team was a girl during my sophomore year. We didn't have enough girls interested in golf to make a girl's team and she still wanted to play.

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May 13th, 2012 at 1:45 PM | I had to read it twice (Score:1 Normal)
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To realize you didn't mean she had a sex change between your sophomore and junior year.

Oh, this topic...

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:11 PM | It probably isn't uncommon. (Score:2)
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It probably isn't uncommon. But does that make it ok?

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
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May 11th, 2012 at 12:16 PM | I think it'd probably be fine (Score:3 Normal)
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I think it'd probably be fine for baseball but I don't think I'd want them being mixed for contact sports like football and hockey to be honest.

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:51 PM | I somewhat agree, but I think (Score:4 Normal)
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I somewhat agree, but I think we also need to remember that the disparity in size and strength b/w boys and girls in high school is not as large as it would be at the college level. For the large schools it might be more dangerous, but for small schools, I doubt it really matters. Either way, it should be up to herself and her parents if she would be able to play those sports. And the coaching staff if there are cuts and such. Definitely shouldn't be up to her opponents. They are denying her the chance to compete in an extracurricular activity just because she is a girl.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
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May 11th, 2012 at 12:59 PM | I bet you feel the same way (Score:2 Normal)
coastal blue
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I bet you feel the same way about the boy who was forced to quit his field hockey team specifically because it was decided that women shouldn't play sports with men. 

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May 11th, 2012 at 4:20 PM | Here's the article, this (Score:1 Normal)
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Here's the article, this should make for some good discussion: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/keeling-pilaro-male-field-hockey-player-banned-being-160713816.html

EDIT: Whoops, didn't see that you posted the link a few comments below... don't neg me for being redundant, he should've edited his post!

Craig James was my wingman in '82.

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May 11th, 2012 at 5:46 PM | See you would think it would, (Score:1)
coastal blue
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See you would think it would, but because its the reverse, no one really cares.

 

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May 11th, 2012 at 1:13 PM | Title IX (Score:0 Normal)
tasnyder01
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Do you support title IX?

Do you support women playing CFB on the men's team?

Do you support seperation of the WNBA and NBA?

.....

Oh, I get it.  When other people do it, they're idiots.  Mah B.

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May 11th, 2012 at 2:14 PM | None of those three are (Score:5 Normal)
Owl
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None of those three are sufficiently analogous to the question at hand to justify your snide remark at the end…

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May 11th, 2012 at 12:27 PM | they are stupid and you are (Score:0 Normal)
Jfox1020
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they are stupid and you are wrong.. This is whats wrong with our country right now.. Its 2012 people, lets move forword

Go Blue

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May 11th, 2012 at 1:00 PM | http://offthebench.nbcsports. (Score:0 Flamebait)
coastal blue
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http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/boy-barred-from-girls-field-hockey-team-because-hes-too-good/

 

Yes lets. As long as it fits the company line outrage lets move forward. 

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May 11th, 2012 at 1:16 PM | Kinda hard to call someone stoopid (Score:3 Normal)
tasnyder01
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....In the same paragraph where you mispell "forward"...

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May 11th, 2012 at 3:59 PM | I love when all the outrage is expressed (Score:5 Normal)
wolverine1987
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here, and no one has any rationale other than "It's 2012 people!"

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

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May 11th, 2012 at 2:08 PM | The group... (Score:4 Normal)
wolpherine2000
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...has been accused of anti-semitism and holocaust denial.  I think prudery by their basketball team may be the least of their issues.

As a matter of fact I like beer.

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:39 AM | Darn double post. Here's a video to make up for it. (Score:5 Normal)
bacon1431
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For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
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May 11th, 2012 at 12:33 PM | Best Michigan game that I (Score:0)
Jfox1020
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Best Michigan game that I have ever seen live.. Good thing Carr got that extra second put back on clock Big House went NUTS..At that exact moment Reggie Bush pushed Matt Leinert into endzone to beat ND in South Bend...The football GODS spoke..

Go Blue

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:41 AM | "Actually, that specific (Score:5 Normal)
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"Actually, that specific school is run by a religious group that refused to leave the 18th century (as opposed to returning to it).  They split off rather than accept Vatican reforms."

This is an important point.  When I saw that the school involved was named "Our Lady of Sorrows, I immediately wondered if the Society of St. Pius the Tenth (SSPX) was in charge, and that turned out to be the case.  The SSPX is a group that is in schism from the Catholic Church over a number of issues.  I just thought it was important to put this out there before people start going "Ahh, stupid Catholics," etc., as this group is not representative of the Catholic Church in any way.

Now with 100% less South Bend, 100% more Washington DC.

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:48 AM | It wasn't a first round bye - (Score:2)
icactus
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It wasn't a first round bye - it was the championship game.  Kind of sucky way to cap an undefeated season.

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:35 AM | "I think we've gone back to the 18th century." (Score:5 Normal)
hart20
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Says the guy named Andrew Jackson.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:36 AM | oh the delicious irony.   ( I (Score:5 Normal)
Andrew Jackson Jihad
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oh the delicious irony.

 

( I have no idea what irony means)

www.eatacheeseburger.blogspot.com Brian Cook has read this blog!

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May 11th, 2012 at 11:38 AM | It's the internet....nobody (Score:5 Normal)
Lionsfan
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It's the internet....nobody really does

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

StraightDave owes me a steak dinner

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