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OT:Battleship the movie(spoiler)

First, let me say this film was craptastic. The plot and acting were "meh", but the CGI was superb. But in having said that, I am going to recommend this movie.

It was entertaining movie. A lot of action with some spectacular images. Granted, there were some silly scenes, but that's to be expected from movies like these.I also thought it was interesting that they had a Japanese naval officer work with a US naval officer to defeat the aliens so near Pearl Harbor. They never explain why the US officer hates the Japanese officer, but whatever. Again, it a pop flick.

But the main reason I am recommending this film is Greg Gadsen,  USS MIssouri, and the Missouri's vets. Gadson, an Army vet who lost both of his legs in Iraq, played a supporting role in the movie.  

The Missouri is used in the end to combat the aliens.  It's use has to come with a suspension of disbelief. They not only get her running within a short time span, but they man a ship that was normally manned by well over a 1000 men, with just a handful of men. Still, it was an awesome sight to see that magnificent ship  and her massive guns fire in make-believe action.

They actually had men who served on the Missouri from several different eras.(The scene when they were introduced to the audience was more than a little hokey, but the results made it acceptable.)  As an WWII buff I thought this was really cool.

As a movie Battleship was mediocre, but as an ode  to the Navy it was terrific. For that reason I give it a thumbs up. 

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

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May 18th, 2012 at 8:55 PM | Should probably put "spoiler" (Score:2)
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Should probably put "spoiler" in the title.  What you said didn't bother me, but it could for someone else.

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May 18th, 2012 at 8:59 PM | She played a decent sized role. (Score:1)
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Her acting was wooden, which is what you would expect from a newbie.

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

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May 19th, 2012 at 9:58 AM | Did an alien hit her? (Score:2)
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Did she get into a fistacuffs with an alien in the movie?

On a side note, Peter Berg took advice from Kevin Costner on how to correctly film on water. Costner did not want to see Berg end up with another Water World.

 

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/05/10/battleship-peter-berg-kevin-costner/

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May 18th, 2012 at 8:55 PM | B16! I sunk your battleship! (Score:3 Normal)
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B16! I sunk your battleship!

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May 18th, 2012 at 8:55 PM | No thanks. My battleship (Score:5 Normal)
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No thanks. My battleship didn't involve aliens. Come up with something original Hollywood and stop using gimmicks or remakes for ALL your movie ideas.

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:03 PM | It isn’t a great movie by any stretch. (Score:0 Normal)
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But considering battleships have been obsolete since 1940 there is no other way they could have a made a Battleship movie. 

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:05 PM | Unless they set it (Score:2 Normal)
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In the 1940's.

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:07 PM | Battleships are not (Score:3 Normal)
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Battleships are not "obsolete" as you say(cruise missiles what?) but you prove my point. Why make the movie? No reason but an easy way to make some $$$ by trying to pitch the movie as the board game of our youths. It's not, it's stupid.

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:20 PM | Uh, yes they are. Name a country that still has battleships (Score:2 Normal)
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No one maintains active battleships. Cruise missiles can and are launched from a variety of ships. Destroyers, frigates,  submarines....you don't need a battleship to launch cruise missiles.

Now add to that the fact that battleships are slow and are in need of massive protection like carriers do. In fact, carriers of today are considered to be approaching obsolence because they too are slow and in need of a lot protection. 

I suggest you look up the Battle of Taranto. That action by the British not only influenced the Japanese assault upon Pearl Harbor, but fundamentally altered naval warfare for every nation  capable of fielding a blue water fleet.

 

Why make the movie? Why not? It is a vehicle to "sell" the Navy while appealing to the male 18-35 crowd that likes the explosions and violence that come with such a film.

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:50 PM | Nobody is going to watch that (Score:4 Normal)
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Nobody is going to watch that movie and think "hell yeah it's not a job, it's an adventure!"

I know from experience dude. If you know what I mean.

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:27 PM | Not everyone, but enough kids will see the action (Score:-1 Overrated)
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and think "Hey, that looks like a pretty cool job."   It won't make or break a decision, but it plant or strengthen ideas in their head.

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:07 PM | Hmm, (Score:5 Normal)
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"In fact, carriers of today are considered to be approaching obsolence because they too are slow and in need of a lot protection."

Considering that we are currently building a new class of carrier, that will replace the current Nimitz class... I wouldn't say they are approaching obsolescence.

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:23 PM | They are smaller and faster carriers. (Score:0 Overrated)
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They are designing future carriers to carry planes and drones. I've read that they want one to carry just drones.

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

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May 19th, 2012 at 2:15 AM | Perhaps (Score:5 Normal)
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there is another class on the horizon, or they are going to use amphibious assault carriers like the Tarawa, as drone carriers. However, the new Gerald Ford class, will have a crew of over 4500. She'll be over 1000ft long, and have a displacement of 100,000t. Her air wing will consist of 90 aircraft, including the new F-35.

The Supercarrier is still an integral part of our defense strategy, and will continue to be for decades to come.

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:52 PM | I wouldnt exactly call the (Score:2 Normal)
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I wouldnt exactly call the Nimitz class carriers slow (>30 knots), I would assume the Ford class will be just as or slighty faster.  

Considering the smaller support ships sprint up into those speeds I think the fleet is remarkably nimble.    

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May 19th, 2012 at 1:20 PM | Please, just stop (Score:1 Normal)
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Your pretense at knowledge of things naval is laughable.

No one maintains active battleships because those ships require crews too big, and too specialized in otherwise unused equipment, to make their retention worthwhile.  The latest ones were as fast as any other class of ship.  Ditto for the speed of the carriers of today (they are, in fact, the fastest full-sized naval vessals).  The argument against the carriers of today is that they represent such a concentraion of power and cost that the loss of one is potentially crippling; it isn't "because they too are slow and in need of a lot protection."  All ships bar submarines need a lot of protection.  No one argues that all ships bar submarines are approaching obsolescence for this reason.

I suggest you look up the battle in which HMS Repulse and HMS Prince of Wales were sunk, at sea, by Japanese aircraft.  THAT was the beginning of the end for the battleship and the fundamental change for "every nation capable of fielding a blue water fleet," not Taranto (in which battleships were torpedoed in a harbor, something that had been done before).

And the idea that Hasbro and Universal Studios spoent $200 million to "sell the Navy" is laughable.  The movie was made in order to produce a profit.

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May 19th, 2012 at 2:07 PM | Grumbler, i simply am repeating what I have read. (Score:3 Normal)
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I am well aware of the destruction of the HMS Repulse and Prince of Wales off the coast of Malaya during the Japanese campaign to capture Singapore. But if you recall, that occurred some three days after Pearl Harbor. From what I have read the Taranto assualt is considered the "end" of battleships because it displayed their vulnerability to aerial assault without sufficient aerial coverage.The sinkings of the Bismarck, Turpitz, Yamato, and Musashi only confirm this.

I suppose it is more accurate to say that the end of battlships can be seen in quite a few actions. Taranto, Pearl Harbor,  the sinkings of HMS Respite and Prince of Wales,  etc.

Add to this the fact that large scale deep sea actions were a thing of the past.  Carriers could attack other ships hundreds of miles away, thus making the massive guns of battleships irrelevant. This is what I have read.

Now, since you consider yourself to be another Horatio Nelson, I would like to read your criticism of   interpretations that come straight from historians. Nothng what I wrote above is my original thought. They came from historians. If they are inaccurate, blame me for buying a book that was lacking in sound diagnosis. This landlubber is no naval expert and does not pretend to be so.

In regards to the reason the movie was made, I was commenting about why the Navy participated, not why Hasbro and Universal Studios made the film. Only a blockhead would say that these corporations did this to "sell the Navy". The Navy obviously is using this movie as a vehicle to sell itself. I don't think there is any doubt about that.

"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"

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May 19th, 2012 at 11:18 AM | Thanks military expert! (Score:1)
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You should call the Navy and let them know. They don't have the experience you do. If you ask any country in the world who has the most capable Navy, I am sure they will say Canada. We need the equipment we have, because it is determined to be valuable, and other countries lack the capability to counteract it.

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:44 PM | There hasn't been an original (Score:3 Normal)
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There hasn't been an original creative work since Aristotle. 

i should probably stop posting on mgoblog when I'm drunk.

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May 18th, 2012 at 8:57 PM | nope. waiting for The Dark (Score:5 Normal)
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nope. waiting for The Dark Knight Rises. 

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May 19th, 2012 at 1:43 AM | Do you have a yearly (Score:3 Normal)
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Do you have a yearly movie-watching allotment?

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May 19th, 2012 at 8:47 AM | Nope. I don't see crap like (Score:1)
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Nope. I don't see crap like battleship.

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:04 PM | The DoD would work with this movie... (Score:4 Normal)
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...but not the Avengers. Because SHIELD was too fake-y. Good call, government!

The only spoiler I care about is if someone says "You sunk my Battleship!" (Waiting for Hungry, Hungry Hippos: The Movie.)

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:06 PM | Didn't they make one about (Score:2 Normal)
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Didn't they make one about rock'em sock'em robots too?

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:09 PM | Hungry Hungry Hippos is in (Score:3 Normal)
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Hungry Hungry Hippos is in the works for next summer starring Jack Black.

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:58 PM | I would get drunk and watch (Score:5 Normal)
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I would get drunk and watch that.

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May 21st, 2012 at 5:17 AM | what about (Score:1)
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CROSSFIRE!! CROSSFIRE!!

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:19 PM | And KG? (Score:2)
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And KG?

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:26 PM | If they had called that RESER's (Score:1)
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I would have paid to see it. Marketing fail. (Although it actually did pretty well).

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:08 PM | I thought the same thing. (Score:1)
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However, in Avengers the military would be getting their arsh kicked while in this film they are the ones who save the world. In other words, Battleship makes them look better.

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May 18th, 2012 at 9:31 PM | Actually, their reasoning was (Score:3 Normal)
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They weren't sure where an imaginary espionage organization would fit in the chain of command, and if it would be autonomous or "international." But I think I'll buy Green Monsters and Norse Gods existing before I believe the military repelling an alien invasion. But it can still be fun in an Independence Day sort of way, I guess. (Though they couldn't use them in that either even though they save the day, because they wouldn't take out "Area 51" reference).

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May 19th, 2012 at 1:32 AM | Little did you know they (Score:5 Normal)
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Little did you know they already made it.

 

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:04 PM | were I overload (Score:5 Normal)
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of the alien race capable of interplanetary travel, I would probably just shoot at the sea-bound battleship from the sky. Because it is in the sea and I am in the sky.

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:18 PM | Related Question (Score:5 Normal)
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Would you make giant red pegs rain upon the fleet?

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May 19th, 2012 at 7:02 AM | Lol. "You sunk my Battleship " (Score:1 Normal)
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Now that's what I think of when I hear Battleship...Nice..

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:13 PM | Only one question of consequence. (Score:3 Normal)
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Do you get to see Brooklyn Decker's Boobs???

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:28 PM | You know shes got her (Score:4 Normal)
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You know shes got her flotation devices handy if the ship goes down

Whatcha gonna do, little brother?

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:28 PM | You know shes got her (Score:3 Normal)
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You know shes got her flotation devices handy if the ship goes down

Whatcha gonna do, little brother?

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May 18th, 2012 at 10:55 PM | ^^Confused does this mean she (Score:3 Normal)
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^^Confused does this mean she has four ta ta's??? 

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May 19th, 2012 at 11:11 AM | Plural (Score:1)
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2 tits maybe?

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May 19th, 2012 at 1:18 AM | One question. (Score:1)
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Does Tim Riggins save the day? Texas Forever.

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May 19th, 2012 at 1:58 AM | Speaking of Pearl..my dad saw (Score:2 Normal)
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Speaking of Pearl..my dad saw a Japanese guy get tossed off the Arizona Memorial for being too loud and obnoxious by a WW2 vet.

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May 19th, 2012 at 11:10 AM | Man (Score:1)
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That is awesome!

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May 19th, 2012 at 8:23 AM | I personally want to see a (Score:1)
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I personally want to see a 'Scrabbleship' movie.

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May 19th, 2012 at 10:01 AM | I can wait a few months (Score:2)
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And rent it via Redbox for $1.30.

Question is, is it now worth it to buy a blueray player vs the standard DVD player i now have?

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May 19th, 2012 at 11:09 AM | Yes (Score:1)
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They are cheap and a much better picture.

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May 19th, 2012 at 10:16 AM | I'll be waiting for your review on this movie (Score:2)
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1426329/

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May 19th, 2012 at 11:01 AM | You tell us the movie sucks (Score:2)
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You tell us the movie sucks and then recommend it because of some cheesey and unbelievable ode to the Navy near the end?  No thanks, I'll save my $16

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May 19th, 2012 at 2:11 PM | I thought it was cool tribute. (Score:1)
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Some, like you, could not care less about odes' to past generations. Others, like myself, appreciate the effort to do so. My recommendation is for those who do appreciate such tributes, cheesy or not.

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May 19th, 2012 at 11:46 AM | Aliens but no Bill Pullman or (Score:2 Normal)
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Aliens but no Bill Pullman or Jeff Goldblum? But Liam Neeson seems willing to film anything these days.

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