An ND upperclassman throws in the towel:
An ND upperclassman throws in the towel:
wow. the mutiny didn't take long.
worst fan ever is at ND. I know because I sat next to him at UM v. ND game. Section 20, Row 8, Seat 1. His name is Dave. Might be the worst person I've ever met in my life. Feel bad for his kids really. Total embarrassment to any fan base.
the very definition of a front runner
I had student tickets when we started 0-6 in the 2002-03 season. Weren't a lot of folks around me watching Chris Kaman tear the rim down for CMU or cheering the team on when they finally got over the hump against Bowling Green. When things got better and we beat State later in the season, the place was packed.
We've been a basketball powerhouse just as recently as ND has been one in football (more recent national title and went to the Final Four about the time they won their last bowl game). There are a slim few fans of Michigan (or any school for that matter) who are any better fans than this kid is.
about the 3-9...
Wow that's harsh, guess ole boy's never been a Lion's fan, jeesh. But getting back to college football, real fans, especially the student body root for their team no matter what, guess that should go without saying, but not in SB.
Is this ND's version of DahBlue?
I wonder what DameFan1 thinks about this...
I'm starting to wonder if one of these guys is DameFan1
Notre Dame hasn't won a bowl game played in the continental United States since this kid was about 3 years old. In his time on campus, they've never posted a winning regular season record. We don't expect to see rabid fans at a school like Indiana or Duke unless the team does something positive on gameday. Why should this kid get ragged on just because he goes to a school that used to be good at football a long time ago?
Can you really blame this kid for dialing down his expectations and just trying to enjoy his college/gameday experience? He sounds like a lot better fan than some of the shitheads we've heard about in the Big House criticizing players and expressing their hatred for our head coach.
That's not how I read this. He isn't preaching for people to keep calm and have level expectations. He's proudly acknowledging that he doesn't cheer (in the student section, mind you) for his own school while the game's going on, and justifies it by saying "Well, they've lost in the last minute too often." This is completely not a guy with perspective. It's a spoiled brat. How do you not cheer for your own classmates when they're playing?
(And let's not go overboard with the "ND has sucked his whole life" thing. ND has been to three BCS bowls in the past decade - same as us. )
Did you read the first letter? The letter he's responding to is from some weiner basically saying, "The seniors need to get more excited and I'm a way better fan than all of them." He doesn't respond with, "I don't cheer for the team." To me it sounds like he's saying he's not going to lose his mind with excitement any more after what has been perpetual disappointment during the entire time he's been a fan. From a guy who says he's going to keep tailgating, keep cheering at the games, and continue attending every game, I don't see how it is that bad.
And ND got absolutely smoked in each of those bowl games. It has been a hell of a lot easier to be a Michigan fan the last few years.
Yes, ND went to three BCS bowls this past decade but one can make a strong argument that they didn't deserve to go to any of them.
Not once during those seasons did they beat a ranked team other than a 9-5 Georgia Tech team in 2006. And they were winless against all of the top ten teams they faced all three years. 2 of those seasons they had losses to GOD awful MSU teams and in 06, they had to pull off a miracle comeback (and epic Sparty choke) against a 4-8 MSU team.
They should not have gone to a BCS bowl any of those years. Yet they were chosen over more deserving teams - like Nebraska in 2000 - because they are ND.
In the end, they proved they didn't belong by losing those bowl games 41-9, 41-14 and 34-20.
I'm certainly not going to argue that they deserved those bids, but they did get them. They've had some success in this kid's memory.
I just can't get over being that jaded as a student. An older alumnus, maybe. But not a 20-year-old.
Everybody knows a guy like this. He shows up at the game wearing some shit that is a little to put together for game day. When everyone is packing up the tail gate he will ask why everyone wants to go in so soon. He may even spout off some shit he heard on ESPN in order to sound like an informed fan. In short, who would want a guy like this rooting for their team anyway?
Does this mean ND fans have finally realized that it's the players not the coach???!!!
The definition of a fair weather idiot.
There are fans like that in every college campus. As a Michigan Alumni watching the games last season from a bar (incredibly far away from Ann Arbor) with all the regional Alumni, we had to get used to the fact that we didn't have a very good team that season. FNs sort of desensitize themselves so it won't hurt as much. Basically, It's a psychological response to protect one's self from pain.That being said, if you go to the damn game, you better cheer your team on. If not, don't go at all.
...there were fans like this in my section last week...these are the same guys who yell at 18 year olds to "wake up" and don't understand scheme...
You know, I'm still pissed off about that.
I still hold an incredible grudge against a 10 year old who kept shouting, "Lloyd Carr is an idiot!" in the waning moments of the 2007 Rose Bowl. One of my bigger regrets is not chastizing his parents for failing to get the kid to shut his mouth, though I hold out hope that once the kid turns 18 I will be able to find him and put him in the figure-four leglock until he sees the error of his ways and repents (since I do think it is unfair to use my cold-blooded WWF expertise on an underage opponent).
Why does the guy even bother going to the game? If you can't cheer the team on, take up something other than going to games on Sat.
The same one that would yell "4-8" and "how about you go practice some more" when Michigan would come out of the tunnel, and then tell Montana that he sucked and he lost the game for ND when they were going in at halftime. He also mentioned saving RR job a few times, and almost got thrown over the edge into the tunnel when he kneed me in the back a few times.
It would have taken all my restraint not to turn around and say (in my best dismissive Michigan-arrogance voice) that nobody expects RR's job to be saved just by beating Notre Dame.
But for the grace of God....
Maybe this guy is just afflicted with some premature aging disease.
He should try following Eastern at some point. They had victory within their grasp against Army and couldn't stop the winning drive to save their life although they made it exciting because if they had a few more seconds they might have still pulled it off. They nearly won against Miami and had a meltdown against Central. I think that Ohio State has a scrimmage agaisnt them this weekend. Now that's tough. What's even tougher that unless they win their conference, they don't get to a bowl game.
Simply put - what a puss.
Jump off while you still can!