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how much time the ref spends telling players to stop complaining but almost never really puts any weight behind it.
why spain got the goal kick to lead to that break out and goal...
should have been a corner to holland .... free kick clearly went off spains wall
Awful officiating down the stretch. Missed the ridiculous dive by Iniesta and the obvious corner to Holland. Spain pretty much immediately came down and scored after that.
He could only pull that off with an English accent. Brent Musberger saying that exact line would sound awful.
saying anything but "Michigan wins." And even then I'd rather hear the news from somebody else.
and the only undefeated team of the 2010 world cup ... your New Zealand Kiwis
congrats to spain i dont like em but they have been the best for a long time and deserved to win
No blow jobs I guess
Guess that's all you can hope for, in the tight nature of soccer.
Now please don't let this jinx Michigan football like their 2008 win did.
Spain controlled play in the second period after an uneventful first half, but the refs have a lot to answer for. Robbens was so clearly held, and one must assume Holland would have scored on the penalty. Fun to watch, but. . . ouch--get a replay, soccer.
I'm all for replay, and was rooting for the Dutch, but they should have been a man down after the Kung-Fu kick to the chest.
of non-calls as the ref struggled to keep enough men on the field in the second half. . .
So we're just going to ignore not giving a red card for the drop kick? If that's properly given, this isn't even a game.
Both sides got robbed at some point or another, i'm just happy the better team won.
Robben was held as he moved to score, and would likely have made the penalty. For me it was the most egregious reffing move of the game. And yeah, Spain is the "better" team talentwise, but it leaves a bad taste. Not a pretty match from MOST angles, and Spain did not play well for much of the match, so being better is kind of different from "deserving," don't you agree?
That was far from egregious, to me it looked like they were jostling for position and Robben won.
Agreed. Holland should've gotten a red card for the drop kick and Van Bommell was lucky not to be sent off as well. The Dutch don't have much to complain about, they played very negatively and Spain deserved the win.
Spain are deserving World Champs. Winning the Euro and the World Cup back to back is a rare feat. Iniesta grabbing the winner is fitting too, he's been amazing. Deserving winners.
Explain to me what is deserving about a team going up 11 guys to 10 on a phantom penalty on a flop that is deserving?
Spain flopped around like fucking pussies all day. Congratulations!
To be fair, The Oranje probably should have been down to 10 way earlier.
What about the breakaway take downs that were only yellows? What about the fouls in the box?
We could play this game all day. Fact of the matter is those last 2 penalties were not fucking penalties. Period. Also Torres needs to check his vagina.
I don't deny that there were missed calls around, but my counter to your counter is that while those missed calls are at least somewhat typical of soccer matches, kicking a guy straight in the chest while the ball is clearly a foot above should net you a red card 99 times out 100. Spain played hard, dominated possession, and made the plays when they needed to. I do think that something should have been called on Robben's run toward the end of regulation.
But Spain won both Euro 2008 and the WC - they are not a fluke, and played well enough to win.
Getting a soft red is hardly unlucky when half or more of your team has been playing with deserved yellows for an entire half.
Would have preferred to see Germany v Brazil.
Was Spain the better team today? Probably not. Were they the best floppers today? You bet your ass. If you want to learn to get good at soccer just learn to flop. Without those flops it's 11-11 and it goes to pks.
Meh, even if it's 11 on 11 that crappy clearance still gets made and Fabregas still puts Iniesta through.
Holland got jobbed.
France didn't seem to have any problems in the '98 WC final. Marcel Desailly (probably their best defender) was sent of pretty early in that match, but France still managed to beat Brazil 3-0.
France were already up 2-0 when he got sent off. And playing at home.
Of course, none of that makes bouje's rant that "Holland got jobbed" any more sane though. When you hit a guy with a flying cross-kick to the chest and you don't get kicked out of the game, then give up a clean goal from the run of play, you lose the right to complain that officiating cost you the game.
I remembered that all wrong. I thought Desailly was red carded while it was still 0-0. In my defense, I was 10 at the time.
holland was asking for red all game....
the kung fu kick was ugly ugly ugly
and beyond that they were fouling all over the place
But you cannot lie that both of those last 2 fouls on holland were not penalties. It doesn't matter what team you root for but neither of those should have been called. And Torres cramping up at the end of the game Jesus someone get him a fucking tampon.
You just sound bitter, man.
haven't seen Holland play in other games. They flopped way more than Spain in the WC.
Dude you are totally out of your mind. The Dutch were real dirty today and were lucky to play down a man for as little time as they did.
Also I never thought Iniesta would top his previous epic winner. Amazing couple of years for him.
iirc barci was down to 10 men against 11 at that point too
Iniesta is just amazingly consistent
...really is a twat, isn't he?
If so, then yes, he is an epic [REDACTED].
Mod edit: There is one word Brian has expressedly forbid us from allowing on the board. This one was it. Just FYI as rampant usage will get you banned.
Mod: Did PurpleStuff call Steve McManaman an epic spartina?
Then I would have like negative a million points and tons more mgoboard street cred.
Sorry about the slip-up. I blame spending too much time on the Tartan Army Message Board during the World Cup where half the threads seem to be titled, "Who is a bigger blankety-blank?" Guess I forgot to tone things down for my American audience.
Promise it won't happen again (assuming there aren't any Jeopardy-style thread topics about Steve McManaman in the future).
More than in their red light district.
We hardly knew ya. See you in 4 years.
FUCKING TIK TOK IS PLAYING?!
Sigh, I wish the style and pace of play from the second half had kept up in the overtime. Things got chippy, floppy, and sloppy and the overall level of play went down significantly.
Also, are people really defending the flop that resulted in the second yellow? Really?
for it. Of course they are saying that if he hadn't flopped and no second yellow was given Spain still would have scored 11-11.
Spain was flopping and diving all fucking game long. It's pathetic and not good for the game of soccer.
Just because Spain controlled possession doesn't mean that they were the better. Honestly quality scoring chances were pretty even and neither team could put the ball in the back of the net.
iniesta definitely dived to exaggerate the foul but he had his man beat with a clear path on goal and heitinga reached out and grabbed his shoulder...it may be a soft yellow but 50-50 it does get called a yellow
just look at heitinga's reaction afterwards, he didn't even try pleading his case, he just turned around and walked off because he knew he committed the foul