Helm's back just in time! He always plays great in the playoffs.
OT: Wings v. Nashville Game One Open Thread
Let's go Red Wings!
Referee setting the tone early. Not exactly legal, but also a roughing call you don't normally get in the NHL.
very trigger happy for the roughing calls so far tonight, although if Franzen touched his face it's a call that would normally get made, IMO.
If someone asks for a stream, I'll cut you.
Why is that? I'm looking for one...
Some moron will ask for a stream in every single open thread. The response is always the exact same. If people haven't learned by now, they deserve to get punched in the balls.
How so? Everytime I've seen a stream question posted, it's been some random-ass website that Google can't even find.
Dammit, they score.
we scored, Stuart just put it in the wrong net.
Deflection, not like he kicked it in.
Well that sucks...
I'm pretty sure Brad Stuart had like 3 goals bounce off of him last year against San Jose
what a weird bounce
That should be a major. Definitely.
Of course they call the piddly shit early, then give a minor for that.
Way to keep player safety in mind NHL
The Power Play looks good so far. You have to think they will get one on it soon.
Refs trying to look tough in front of Blowman
Not sure if it is 2 m or 1
I guess the refs want some camera time tonight
Offensive zone control is putrid.
Seems to be on his game tonight
Oh, shit, Helm got cut?!?!
I have never been cut by skates but i hope it is small enough just to stich up
We. Look. Like. Trash. We aren't checking, we're taking shit penalties, we aren't checking, we're turning the puck over, and we aren't checking.
Well, when we check, the refs call a penalty. /s
Ericcson taking a trip, when I'm not sure why he was so far up. Commentary saying it was his assignment, maybe they're right, I didn't catch the whole thing.
How many shots have we had? Like 4? 5? Can't be more than 10......and now we have a 5 on 3 against us....shit
That was all arm/wrist
I hate playoff refs, especially with the asshole Bettman in the crowd
i hate penatlies like that, because that stuff goes on all game and never gets called.
Eh slashing penalty.
Another Abdelkader penalty. It's magic!
We may be zombies just about everywhere, but goddamn our PK is playing out of their minds tonight
At least the PK is looking good so far, with a few exceptions
Down 0-1 ain't bad for half the first period spend down 4 on 5
And # 93 makes more money, if you cant score hit someone. I was at the 66 game vs. Habs and saw Able riding the old guys of M, Howe, and Delvechio, Baun and Brewer. That was it. Same here, got a few blue chippers and what we have left is Salery Cap type players.
We have to take it to them.
Shameless plug. If you need some intermission reading, I posted the PK diary a few minutes ago. The wings have used a lot of what I've written about, both on the PP and PK. There's a lot of special teams in this game, lucky timing for my diaries.
2nd period has just started and I'm already nervous. Playoff hockey is awesome in that masochist sort of way.
Sidenote: Did anyone else notice the TV feed showed 1st period and score as 0-0?
PPG Zetterberg!!! Tie game!
BIG Z !
That should have been a motherfucking goal.
Momentum swinging our way
Damn, early whistle?
Anybody else getting random commercial interruptions?
1. Good dirty PP goal. The wings weren't in an umbrella there, they didn't have any righties on the ice. A good job of throwing the puck at the net and capitalizing on the rebound
2. Abdelkader is not a smart hockey player.
Early whistle? That was close... Rinne basically fell over and never had control of the puck, but Abs may have pushed the Nashville player into him. Maybe.
They're calling everything . This shit better run both ways for the rest of the game.
You know what every hockey fan loves? Over-officiated games with no flow. Err, wait ...
Mickey is not happy with all these calls going against us
I can't complain about that call. Zetterberg had his stick between the Nashville players legs... still doesn't make me like the call.
Oh, shorthanded chance so close!
That was the perfect chance. Too bad...
Freaking Rinne.......least we're 100% on the PK
Dang thought Cleary had that!!!
WTF, no call there??
without a call?????????
the dude holding Datsyuk's stick down can get fucked
I must add that as an all around Detroit/UM sports fan, you knuckleheads at Mgoblog make watching sports ten times better. It's like a big ass chat room where everybody (mostly) agrees.
we kill all betrayers. Ask the Pens fan in the pregame thread (not that I object, it's the playoffs fregodsakes).
Looks like we have to beat nashville and the refs tonight
Fucking a, let em play
F U REFS!!
Jesus christ....another penalty!?! This is fucking ridiculous
He got hooked first, no call.
So lets call the next
whenever I hear your name, it's never anything beneficial. The fuck, man?
We have spent a third of the game on the PK.... and now another. Incredible.
I'm expecting Ashton to pop out of the Wings locker room and laugh and tell them that they all just got punked, it's the only explanation for this bullshit. Totally unacceptable calls.
Mickey's the man.
"holy jumpin"... this is bordering on un-watchable.
I dont like making excuses but damn these refs are horrible. But on the bright side if we win this we will kill them at home
WTF, they score.
Are you serious???????
Breaks not really going our way tonight...
Damn it, Jimmy.
Another fluke goal...2-1 preds.
What a ridiculous goal. Geez, absolutely nothing going right at the moment.
Hockey gods hate us today.
This won't hold up. Tonight it's Red Wings versus a triple team death match of the Nashville Predators, the referees, and somehow, all out reason...
Jesus christ, they've getting all the bounces, all the refs help. This is bullshit. We're outplaying them and nothing is going our way
Nobody plays hockey in Tennessee. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Red Wings 1- Luck 2
Mickey tells it like it is.
I am surprised Bettman hasn't tried to censor him, he rips on the refs every game. You are right though, he will call out whoever regardless of their team.
Why let a hockey game have any flow? I love the game being stopped every 2 minutes to get the PP/PK teams on the ice
who else thinks Mick will curse on air sometime in the third period when we get boned on another call....
I think he will choke Bettman out and tell him to fix the refs
If this is how these games are going to go I may need to start drinking a little earlier.
That PP sucked
I know he's a fan favorite. But Holmstrom is worthless.
I think it is time for him to retire after the playoffs are over, we have too many young guys in the AHL that are far better than Homer. I feel bad saying that but Homer needs to go.
I think he needs to stay if it helps convince Lidstrom to stay. They are a big part of each others routine and pregame, I'd hate to give Lidstrom any more incentive to leave than he'll already have.
Lidstrom needs to stay just to groom Smith, Kindl, and Ericson another season. Plus i don't see Stuart staying in Detroit with his family situation.
They need to step up and show they're better and make Homer a healthy scratch.
Man Kyle Quincey sucks way more
We're playing much better this period. Just an amazingly flukey goal keep the Preds out front.
The fans for teams like Nashville piss me off. They've got no Stanley Cups, no Conference Championships, not even a freaking Division Title, yet they get a somewhat good team and suddenly they think their shit don't stink.
They aren't as bad as Ohio "hockey fans" who came out of nowhere when they were winning this past season and the second they started dropping, "We have a hockey team?"
No one is a bad as a TSIO fan
gives me heart problems.
With all the shit they've called on us, how does Weber get away with that?
Lets get another
Let's tie this puppy up here on the PP!!
It's about time they called a penalty.
Power play to start the next period (pending nothing happening in the next 5 seconds). I'm good with that.
Oops, Let's go Red Wings!
We can has PPG to start the next period?
Flyers come back from 3-0 to tie it up!
melrose picked the pens to win the cup, so they are undoubtedly doomed.
From the level of play tonight, I've changed my mind from Nash in 6 to Detroit in 6. They have hardly had any offensive pressure in front of their vaunted loud home crowd. Two flukes have them up by 1.
We got this, Wing Nuts!
This is what I have been thinking during this nonsense they're calling a hockey game.
Let's keep those numbers up and we'll win this one.
Damn, thought we had one there!
GODDAMNIT ZETTERBERG! HOW DID YOU MISS THAT!?!?!?!?!?!
how did that not go in!!!!
How does that puck not go in???
Red wings versus Luck part II
Well we didn't score on that, but we had some quality chances and we're still controlling the flow of this game
Insane save by Rinne...hockey gods aren't helping the right team so far.
So the next time we play them is Friday the 13th? Awesome.
LOL, "This is Gongshow," - Mickey
Why is that a double penalty?
Because apparently the NHL imported the CCHA refs to do this game
I've never seen a red call a penalty and a dive at the same time
You would think it would be one or the other. Not both! I guess that's why we don't get paid to referee?
A player "milking" or "diving" has nothing to do with whether the original play was legal or not. If the original play wasn't legal, he should be penalized, if a player dives, he should also be penalized. The two events aren't connected in the eyes of the offical/rulebook.
but not something you see often. These guys are obviously way higher level than me, but I think they made a defensible call there.
The point of the diving penalty is to not allow a team to benefit from a dive, and it cost us the powerplay there: it did what it was written to do.
Barry Trotz looks like a villian from a James Bond or Austin Powers movie.
Hell of a save Jimmy
Great save Howard. He has been spectacular tonight minus two flukes.
Jeez the Hockey Gods hate us tonight
Jimmy just earned the paycheck right there he did.
So many close chances tonight, one more has to go in. Well i guess two more have to go in
How the hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God damnit!!!!! We just can't finish
why wont the puck go in!!!!!!! holy cow.
Come on, Z! I know you have our only goal, but you should have a hat trick!
Hockey gods/ Rinne.
Slowly leaning towards becoming a hockey atheist. The gods have cursed us
The refs almost paid us back for this gongshow.
We are freaking DOMINATING. Gotta put one in!!!!
Ok, I'll take the blame for that one. DAMN.
Fuck fuck fucking fuck
We look so strong right now how are we not winning 5-2?
That will pretty much do it.
FUCK MY LIFE!!!!!!
Well shit. Hockey gods have cursed us for 2 goals, then we played sloppy
Jessica Dorrell'd right there we were.
Brad Stuart has had a horrible game tonight
The refs don't give a fuck
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK, sorry for the delay was too busy throwing shit
All right boys, this is your chance. Get your PP together and score, send this bitch to OT.
The puck was in front of the goal when he hit Dats. Shut up Nashville
Need to make something happen here.
If this is the way things go Friday, I will e wasted.
e too dude e too.
The only thing that's made me laugh in the last two and a half hours!
I'm playing the Mickey Redmond drinking game and it got a little out of control.
5-on-3. Must. Score.
Need a goal here, obviously.
How the hell can anyone boo that? He snapped his stick in half...
Fill the sin bin bin up with those rebels.
shoot it shoot it shoot it shoot it
Why don't we set it up the same they did? Backdoor shots instead of firing from the top
Homer with the PPG. Gotta keep pressing!
There's still a chance....
I refuse to get excited until this bitch is tied
So you're saying there's a chance!
That there made me do some smilin'
Time for a miracle???
LET'S GO WINGS!!!!
Down to one again...But it just doesn't feel like the Wings night. Rinne has had some pretty damn good saves. I'm hoping this isn't like when JS Giguere stoned us night in and night out in 2004 (I think?)
Some good old fashioned magic right there
dangerous clearing pass but i like it
my life just flashed before my eyes
NBC announcers are idiots. If you have a chance to end the game w/ the open goal, you have to take it.
Brady Hoke would've shot that puck.
Those lucky bounces are really hurting right now...
My pants are so off right now
Alright fuck this, I am going to watch Mccarty beat the shit out of Lemieux on you tube now.
6 on 4 for 23 seconds....
So a 6 on 4?
6 on 4 let's get it!!!
I love these Southerners booing that call. Someone needs to buy them some rulebooks to read.
books on tape would probably be more fitting.
how ridiculous is it that they play hockey down there
Barring a miracle shot that's the game
Fucking lucky ass bounces
OK, new refs Friday, get the split, and we're good.
that was frustrating. Something to build on though.
Weber is goanna die Friday for that shit.
Weber is going to get it next game!!!
That's a bummer but I actually feel better about our chances after watching this game.
Holy fuck, Weber should be dragged out into the street and shot for that shit.
And wow Nashville players are fucking thugs. Punching Z in the head, going after Datsyuk after the game is over. Fucking Gongshow refs
WTF, dirty shit slamming Zetterberg's head into the glass. Shanny, do your job.
Hammer him Shanahan!
Weber should not play again this season. Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable behavior.
a Face Off Professor ? Any word on Helm?
Luck can't last through the whole series. I think the WIngs win game 2 and eventually win it in 6.
going after Weber next year....
...in the first preseason game.
That's more eloquent than I would've put it, that's for sure.
Jeremy Roenick is ripping into weber right now (rightly) on CNBC.
Hopefully Shanny lays down the law.
Has to be a suspension. Otherwise he totally gets away with it since it was at the end of the game. Only question is whether the suspension is only one game.
It had better be. Final five minutes of the game, attacking a defenseless player, if he doesn't get punished beyond a 2 minute minor it'll be a crying shame
Truthfully, they should make basically all supplemental discipline in the playoffs four games. You want to do something completely outside the field of play? Fine; plan on us allowing your club to have their season ended without you.
PS it looks liek Luongo isn't choking in this year's playoffs. Wow
The worst part of all this, besides the lucky ass bounces, and the #gongshow officiating; is that despite Weber slamming Z's head into the glass as the game ended nothing is going to happen to him, and everyone will just ignore it
If the "higher ups" ignore it. I can guarantee the Red Wings will not. He will pay for it one way or another.
The league absolutely has to do something about that. Unfortunately the wings don't have an true enforcer to respond if the league sits on its ass and doesn't do anything. Bob Probert would teach Weber not to do that ever again.
I will have lost any remaining respect for the NHL as a league, Bettman is at that game if he wants to avoid "head injuries" this is the easiest decision to make. There is no place in any sports at any level for disguisting actions like that. How honestly can someone slam someone's head into the glass without getting suspended.
Weber is the biggest piece of shit on the planet right now, he can go fuck himself with that fucking Tootoo whistle. Fuck Nashville. Rant over.
Agreed. This is a litmus test for the league. Like the Saints appeal last week this will be a test of whether the league cares about player safety.
They better fucking suspend Weber and look at that Bourque hit closely as well. I doubt Rene gets suspended, but that Weber bullshit should merit at least a 1 game suspension. Fucking ass hole.
Just horrible luck all around
That sucks. Hoping he's ok but doesn't sound good at all.
If he got cut, needing tests can not be a good thing... Severed tendon? Blood came out green?
got cut. At the hospital to see what the damage is.
Whoever is moderating this as funny, may you suffer from explosive diarrhea in public, asshole.
I'm torn between feeling that the Red Wings will just crush them the next game...or as Yost Built pointed out, nothing happens to Weber and he's the difference in the next game (Malkin '09)
Wont happen... That wings team had guys like McCarty, Kocur, Shanny who all could handle dropping the gloves and defending not just themselves but other skilled guys on the team. This team has become SOFT. The other western conference teams know it and have taken advantage of it over the past 3-4 seasons. When Nik Kronwall is your "physical player" your team has serisous playoff question marks. Wings need to find guys like David Backes, Scott Hartnell, other guys who are skilled while making guys answer for doing stuff like Weber did.
Fucking gongshow refs, Weber got 2 min for roughing. Have some balls, call a 5 min major and game misconduct! I'm gonna hope Shanny steps in and does the right thing.
Shanny was handing out the suspensions during the regular season.... hopefully he keeps it up.
Blown call on the ice. That's a game misconduct at the absolute least; if Zetterberg goes down, there's no complaints at a match being called. Obviously thankful that isn't the case, but there was no point to that play besides attempting to injure the closest star opponent.
Hopefully Shanahan ends this clowns season and then Kronwall has something to say to him early in the 2012-2013 season.
Haven't seen it from that angle. That looks even worse!
I can't wait to hear people try to justify this
Predators Coach Barry Trotz said Weber was retaliating for Zetterberg’s initial shot, adding that he saw Detroit forward Todd Bertuzzi land a shot on Paul Gaustad.
“Zetterberg hit him in the head first,” Trotz said. “It wasn’t much there. I mean, I was watching the scrum right after that with Bertuzzi and Gaustad, and Bertuzzi comes in with a big-time haymaker. I watched the first one, I just think Zetterberg was getting tired at the end and knew Webs was there and the game was over.”
I understand now... the victim of the assault is to blame. Silly me, here I thought it was Weber that was at fault... what with him using Z's head, to crack the Plexiglas and all. I guess it just goes to show, your eyes can misinterpret what you see.
watching this just pisses me off.
Watching that video:
"Well Zetterberg boarded Weber, so Weber retaliated", "He tapped his head against the glass. Big deal", "Getting boarded into the glass head first would hurt. Having someone push your head into the glass WHILE you have a helmet on....wont hurt.", "Softies, play hockey, its violent...violent teams win not finness teams...ask vancouver last year", and my personal favorite "I am actually from st louis, and i enjoy getting acting lessons from your detroit red wings every time i watch them play"
Words can't begin how much I want someone to drop the gloves on Weber right as the puck drops (if he's not suspended) and how much I want to win this series
Watch Gaustad and Datsyuk after the faceoff in that video. Gaustad gives Pavs a nice slash to the back of the knee there too.
What George said!
Crappy North American hockey at its finest.
Yes, so much better, or wait try Russian, Swedish, etc, hockey. That is OHL level bullshit.
Hopefully Helm doesn't have a severed tendon.
Shea Weber, fuck you, eat shit and die. I used to think you were a good player. Now you're just Claude 2.0. I nominate Big Bert to go McCarty on his ass, whether or not Shanny suspends him. That demands on-ice retribution.
Helm had surgery. I'd have to imagine it was a tendon. If so I don't see him being back this season. All speculation right now, but Babcock said in his presser Helm was in surgery.
I really hope they don't they don't try and retaliate. Nothing good can come of it, Bertuzzi will be the first one to tell you that.
I wanna break someone.
Doesn't Weber know what happened to the last guy to piss off Bertuzzi?
I don't really know how to embed tweets, but take this for what it's worth. From Liam McHugh, an NBC Sports analyst/host:
General feeling in the @NHLonNBCSports studio: Shea Weber has earned himself a 1 game unpaid vacation. More on @NBCSN intermission
Also, Jeremy Roenick think's he'll be suspended, and Yahoo's Puck Daddy thinks so too
That has got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever seen a player do. No point to it, especially after the win. Honeslty, it just be AT LEAST a 3-5 game suspension. Should be zero tolerance on stuff like this.
Weber fined 2.5k.
I declare open season on cheap shots