OT: Windows 10
Windows 10 was released yesterday.
So I was wondering if anyone else took the upgrade, and what're your thoughts on it?
I started my download yesterday when I got home from work, and plan to check it out this evening when I get home.
I am very much looking forward to having the ability to play my xbox thru my laptop.
I work in both environments, Windows at ouur firm and Mac at home. I've been involved with computers since the PC became popular since the early 80's.
I never have issues with my Macbook Pros, of which I have owned two, going back six years. The only reason I bought a new Macbook was to get a lighter PC with an SSD. No viruses, no weekly updates, etc. It just continues to work as it did when I bought it. A bit more pricey perhaps but rock solid.
Each to their own, but I find it hard to knock Apple.
from this private consumers POV. Macs are:
-More secure, in fact way more secure
-simpler, more intuitive, and again, simpler to use
-better looking by far (this statement is POV, the other two above are factual
People that like Macs, don't value a system that has the ability to do more, if the cost of doing more (much of which no regular consumer will use) results in a more cluttered environment.
I've heard forever from windows fans the "macs can't do this " argument. And I'm posiitive that they are correct that windows can do more. But I'm equally as positive that for me, I don't care, because for what I want to do every day Macs perform fantastically. I have windows at work, so I'm comparing every day, and for me they don't compare well. But I can certainly understand for that a different mindset/person, they would value windows far higher.
How are Macs more secure?
HINT: They aren't.
not my opinion, that most viruses are written for windows due to it being 90% of the market. Fewer viruses and a different platform means less suseptibility to them which equals being more secure. That isn't a matter of opinion.
Yes, there aren't any viruses for Macs. There hasn't been a lot of viruses for Windows lately either. Most of the threats are malware these days and Macs do not protect users from themselves i.e., opening an attachment, clicking on a link which they shouldn't, etc.
What you describe is security through obscurity and that is complete folklore regarding the perception of security. Just because Windows has 90% of the market does NOT mean Windows is 9 times out of 10 more likely to have a threat against it.
Fewet viruses maybe but viruses are an old concept. There is no money in viruses whatsoever, there is money in exploits. Exploits don't care about your OS, they look for your browser or the versions of Java or Flash yopu are running and attack those. You can make a case for or against the different OS's but it's all posturing. Nothing is more or less secure than people who are willing to give it attention, nothing is invulnerable.
The one thing I will say is that Apple's 'we don't get pc viruses' marketting did more to hurt their user base. It instilled a false sense of security when there was no reason for one. It was also disingenuous as all fuck. Saying Mac's don't get PC viruses is the same as me saying I am invulnerable to Dutch elm disease, while true it doesn't actually tell you anything.
Just downloaded it last night. I like it so far, but haven't dug into it yet. Here's a good download spot if you don't want to bother with creating ISO's or using a flash drive:
http://www.cnet.com/how-to/jump-the-line-and-get-windows-10-right-now/
I just hope my PC is still working after the upgrade. My experience with Windows 8 has been bad.
I went through the upgrade process last night, went pretty smooth, took around 30 minutes. It looks a little different (weve been using Win 7), but so far so good.
I was part of the preview program. I've been very happy with Win10 so far. Highlights for me have been the new start menu, cortana, and the Xbox app. I'm thinking about switching to edge, but waiting for the addon support that they have promised (allowing easy porting of firefox/chrome addons).
I like it so far and it looks cleaner and more user friendly so far. Cortana is pretty sweet. I don't know if she was on 8 but I like it.
I think I had a pirated copy or some kind of highly discounted version of WIndows 7 because my friend never charged me for it when he built my computer.
Yesterday I got the BSOD followed by Black Screen of Death w/ Cursor, so I'm just going to switch over to 10 and figure out what is wrong. I think I might have some bad RAM, but will only know after I run memtest.
I installed the upgrade on my Surface 3 Monday night.
It's classic Microsoft: great concept, bug-riddled execution. I don't know if it's just a consequence of the upgrade process, but I've come across dozens of annoying bugs and instances of inconsistent behavior. I feel like I'm using a dev preview, but it's apparently the full, final release. I might do a system reset and see if that helps, but the user experience hasn't been too pleasant so far.
It's a huge improvement over Windows 8 as far as design goes (the Action Center in particular is a great addition), but there are a lot more kinks than you would expect after almost a year of dev previews.
Supposedly, they plan on doing continual updates (ie, you won't have to wait for SP1 6 months from now), so hopefully any remaining major bugs gets quickly ironed out.
I downloaded it last night and played around with it a little. I had no problems with it installing and so far it has been really good. I had Windows 7 before the upgrade and I think it's a good combo of that and what they released in Windows 8.1, which I have a little experience using at work.
Definitely recommend the free upgrade if you can get it.
Play your Xbox via the laptop? Why not just play through the, ya know, Xbox?
Unless this is something that can be done remotely, like if you're not in your house and can play your Xbox games on your computer, then that is quite awesome.
I'm an Apple guy, though, so clearly I never bothered to research this new Windows.
I like the layout but ran into a problem with Nvidia drivers not updating, or not being allowed to update properly. My GPU wasn't being recognized due to a clash between MS and Nvidia software (found out its a known issue so a google search helped identify the issue). After trying a few suggested fixes I simply unistalled all of the Nvidia drivers/programs and reinstalled them and it worked fine.
I installed yesterday and had to go back to 8.1 because I lost all internet connectivity. Apparently HP never bothered to release updated network drivers for my ultrabook, which is not old at all.
I live 15 min's from the MSFT campus and half my neighborhood is MSFT developers or business leaders. Here's what annoys me:
1. MSFT is an engineering lead company. Consumer experience is not high on the priority list.
2. There is no collaboration between groups. Surface, Mobile (what's left of it), Xbox, Office, Zune (haha), ERP - all islands with no shared vision. Whatever you hear contrary to this is all lip service. Directors/VPs go in their office and shut the door and pray for no calls from other divisions. They are mostly 20+ year employees with millions in stock and no motivation. Riding it out...
3. Too big to fail. The general sentiment is identical to GM in the 70's.
4. Lazy. I haven't met a single employee with passion. Everyone (and I mean everyone) is cashing a pay check and is out of the office by 4pm. Normally you can only host a meeting betwen 10am and 4pm due to availability. That is a tragic flaw in culture.
That's all for today. This shit annoys me every day because "as MSFT goes, so goes the economy in my area", but the issues run deep and long and have bothered me for quite a while.
This shit annoys me every day because "as MSFT goes, so goes the economy in my area"
Well thank goodness for Amazon, then.
I just started working here and I have to say... I'm passionate about what i'm doing... there are people in my division that are passionate about what they're doing. That said we aren't on the consumer side... but i am in a really cool new area of the business that's very promising. I think MSFT faces a big perception problem... especially on the consumer side.
I think people do leave early but that varies by group. Think about it though, if you're working in Office vs. bing vs xbox etc. your mentality coming to work is very different.
I haven't been here outside of summer, but folks that i know that leave early still log on later in the evening, they just need to enjoy the precious few weeks of summer.
As a MSFT employee, I can say for certain that #4 is total crap. 60 hour weeks are the norm for me and many on my team.
It's a huge company. Stop with the sterotypes.
Hosting meetings between about 10-4PM in the tech industry is pretty standard. People work flex hours and 10-4 is pretty much the "core' hours of the day. Some people work early, some work late, but everyone is requried to be around 10-4. That isn't some failure in culture. That's just how tech works. Microsoft is hardly alone in that kind of environment.
Do you sense any of this has changed since Nadella took over? For example, I know their Phone & Devices (zune, surface, WP OS, etc) divisions, have been consoladated into a single division. Also their stack ranking benchmarks (google it) have supposively been eliminated, which should help improve their culture, though cultural changes can take awhile. I think Amazon still uses stack ranking, and hear even worse things about their corporate culture (everyone hates working there).
If nothing else, it's changed due to reorgs. Terry Myerson owns all of Windows and Devices, so there's at least some synergy there (devices will feature WIndows features and vice versa). Satya has also been good with supporting iOS and Android, which Balmer was slow to do.
My area (Super Magic Holo Goggles) seems to have pretty good cross discipline "culture".
Stack Ranking is gone... though in reality, it'll always exist in some form. Now we have 20 ranks instead of 5.
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Windows 8 was so awful they are giving windows 10 away to anyone that owns win 7 or win 8.
No EFFING chance I give up my Windows 7.
I even bought a copy of Win 7 for the NEXT computer I build in 5 years.
I actually found out - minutes before I was about to download it - that if I wanted to do anything work-related on my machine, Windows 10 support currently exists nowhere in our corporate IT structure. That is to say, it wouldn't even let me login remotely if I downloaded it. I did manage to update the laptop that is exclusively non-work at least - it hosed a few drivers though, so I'll have to work on that this weekend maybe, but otherwise not too bad.
Hell, this one machine I am on now is running 8.1 and SAP seems to HATE Windows 8.1...we're a couple systems behind here.
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Downloaded today and all works well. Whole process took between 1-2 hrs, including file transfer, setting up existing e-maill accounts, signing into password-controlled Web sites, and so on.
So far, the jump from Windows 7 to 10 seems very worthwhile. And yes, I have 8.1 on a tablet, so I can see what an improvement this new operating system is.
I am going to upgrade when I get home. But what I've seen thus far makes me think it's a nice upgrade in quality.
I'm upgraded on one laptop which was part of the beta builds. I haven't had a single problem, but to be honest I'm a keyboard shortcut guy. I never really have problems with the different versions of the OS's because I try to mitigate my interaction to them as much as possible.
Will install in about a month after the 36 emergency patch fixes by Microsoft come out.
I upgraded my at home laptop to windows 10, and i like it a lot.. but i already liked both windows 7 and windows 8, so i must not be hard to please.
it seems slower than windows 8, but that just might be because my windows 8 computer is a i7 surface pro 3 and my windows 10 computer is an i3 with no SSD.. now if only work would let me put W10 on my SP3 - that would be glorious
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