OT: Windows 10
Windows 10 was released yesterday.
So I was wondering if anyone else took the upgrade, and what're your thoughts on it?
I started my download yesterday when I got home from work, and plan to check it out this evening when I get home.
I am very much looking forward to having the ability to play my xbox thru my laptop.
I'm still waiting on mine.
I never got mine yesterday, so I did a quick search and found this: LINK
Helps you jump start the process.
I just downloaded the ISO file from the MS website since the little Windows icon never popped up in the corner on my laptop.
I like it. It's like the Windows 7 to Windows 8.1. Streamlined, cleaner and efficient. Not to mention the start menu is back which is always a plus.
The one thing that MS finally got right is that Microsoft Edge, the replacement to Internet Explorer is actually.... AMAZING... it's not a memory hog like Chrome and Firefox. It's also just as efficient as Safari is on Macs. I might just switch over permanently if Adblock comes out with an app for Edge as well.
Overall, W10 is a solid upgrade imo.
Come fall Edge is apparently going to get pretty extensive addon support, which should include Adblock and the other popular addons. Can't wait.
I've been using Chrome since it came out, but of late it seems buggy....printing issues, PDF issues. Maybe time for a change.
From what I'm reading about Win 10, lots of bug reports. Not totally surprising, but it might be a case of waiting until SP1 hits the street to do the free upgrade.
Question...when you upgrade, do you get the equivalent version, i.e., I use Win 7 64 bit professional...do you get the equivalent for Win 10?
Yeah, most computers these days are 64bit... not many comps are made with less than 4 gb of RAM. Even then they are 64bit.
You can check out the MS media creation tool for Windows 10 and upgrade that way.
Trolling, but partially serious question.
It looks good. Haven't really been able to play around with it. The start menu going back to not taking up the entire screen is welcomed, though.
Great, just what is country needs, video games on the computer now. No wonder participation in real sports like football is dwindling, the kids would have to leave the basements and Fritos for a few hours. At least there won't be a shortage of offensive linemen!
This could be a comment straight out of American Voices in The Onion.
I just Google'd The Onion and it isn't even a real news website. It's comedy. Just like John Steward and that conservative charicture they have - people can't even watch news that isn't sugar-coated and given to them in bite sized pieces.
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I really am afraid nothing will work(I know lame). I'm 50-50 on installing it this weekend, I'm always leery of in place upgrades and would be going from 7-->10.
I suppose as long as I move everything off C: just in case can't go wrong. Can always reload Win 7 in a day and re-install everything if necessary.
as long as you are skipping 8.1 you are prob going to like it...8.1 was a DISASTER
Boot times are cut by a third and it's much faster/efficient.
It did take some GoogleFu at the beginning to become proficient at avoiding the Tile Mode. This included reinstalling some apps like AdobeReader so that they open in multiple-windows capable Desktop Mode and not one-application-at-a-time Tile Mode.
IMO, it was a substantial improvement in technical performance under the hood. Unfortunately, MSFT basically scored an own-goal with their GUI presentation decisions.
I wonder if the Win 8 GUI had something to do with the end of the Ballmer era. ("You knucklehead! How did you let that GUI get out the door when it obscures a real improvement?")
Win8 really wasn't bad, just obnoxious as hell due to the start menu. IF you got past that.. I had it on a laptop, but for my primary computer eff it. May just upgrade that laptop first now that I think about it.
Curious how performance benchmarks compare vs 7 and 8 in terms of overhead and gaming performance.
8.1 wasn't bad at all once you added a start menu & forced it to act like a Windows computer instead of the default mode.
So far, so good for 10, but it loaded my profile with all of my settings automatically. Setting up my mom's new computer will be the test, as she doesn't have an account with Windows 8 settings.
Like you, I was worried about the upgrade from Windows 7 to 10, especially since I'm using a personally-built PC. The upgrade worked seamlessly. Took a long time though, even after you download the files to your PC. I have an overclocked system with tons of fast memory and SSD drives, and it still seemed to take forever. On the other hand, it looks like the install program went and retrieved all the drivers it needed from the various component manufacturers in my system. I was actually more worried about that than the Windows 10 download itself.
Good luck on Saturday. As they say, individual results may vary...
Especially when Windows based laptops are just as nice looking as Apples now in terms of aesthetics... then again most of America is comptuer illiterate so not surprised about Macs being popular.
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When the macbooks/macbook airs/etc came out they were light years ahead of windows in terms of power, style, functionality. Now it's basically just preference. you can get a superior laptop to a macbook air with the same size/weight/performance/sharp design for a lot less.
Macs were definitely lighter, that's for sure, but they weren't significantly more powerful on a cost basis. Even back when they first hit the market you could get a Dell with equal specs for less cost than the Mac alternative.
They just killed it with the marketing and numerous studies have shown that good portion of the population will spend more money on something just because they naturally believe that = quality.
No they weren't light years ahead of anything. You can put a 9th grade version of me on PCPartPicker.com and I would create a computer for less than $1000 that would be at least twice as fast as a Mac selling for $1500-$2000.
As I said before, most of America is computer illiterate, so I'm not surprised. When it comes to electronics, I generally don't give a fuck about how it looks vs. its functionality.
I'll take the power/dollar every time.
Obviously, Apple hit it out of the park with marketing coinciding with the iPod and iPhone trends in the mid to late 2000s. Their college deals on laptops helped too. And yes the sleek designs helped attract college students especially.
If anything, I would wager people in your field or surrounding fields wouldn't use either Windows or Mac, but would rather use fully open Linux/Ubuntu. Regardless...
I'm talking about the general populace in which you borrow someone's computer for 2 seconds and notice the taskbar has 35 open apps running at the same time b/c he or she doesn't know how to keep the computer scrubbed clean. Then the same person complains about the computer breaking down in 3 years vs a Mac that stays for a decade.
OSX benefits these people since MS didn't get it through their head that bloatware was not beneficial for introductory purposes to the consumer (or they assumed their consumer would know how to use the uninstall function) until OSX became synonymous with minimalism.
As a market majority, most targets would be on Windows based machines, so naturally these people would also succumb to predators online as well. This helped Mac since they didn't have a large user base back then when it first started gaining traction.
But like in all things, competition is good. If OSX didn't pick up, we would still be stuck with shitty Vista lol.
I've never owned a Mac, but I think a lot of Windows folks tend to focus on the specs and ignore that customer satisfaction is almost universally much higher among Macbook owners than even most modern PC ultrabooks (with, perhaps, a few exceptions). Performance is still very good on Macbooks, even relative to high-end ultrabooks. Obviously, they make you pay a premium to live in the Apple ecosystem, but most Apple customers seem to be very happy to live in that ecosystem.
by and large Macbooks and macbook airs were more or as powerful than their PC counterparts and didn't look like something a soviet era architect designed with all the portability of a boat anchor.
I'm not talking software. most of the PC laptopss until the last half decade were more similar to a cinder block than a macbook.
what specific windows laptop do you find equally as good looking as a Mac?
Any Ultrabook model especially from brands like Acer, Samsung, MSI or Asus.
I use a Asus Zenbook atm.
I remember seeing one in gun metal a couple years ago and thinking it was the first laptop I ever saw that looked as good or better than a Mac.
Dell XPS13
Love the slim borders and the top screen, but the bottom with those rounded corners and thick width doesn't do it for me.
ACER/ASUS has some slick designs, even toshiba, my HP Elitebook is practically a macbook pro clone...
if you can spend more than 600/700 on a laptop its harder to find an ugly looking, powerful laptop than the opposite.
Meh.. I primarily use a Windows machine at work and an Ubuntu/Linux build at home, both desktops. I had a chromebook (with ChromeOS and Ubuntu) for simple stuff until it got stolen. Point being, I'm not a "Mac person."
Having said that, there's no comparison to the build quality of the new macbooks at that price. I'm not talking speed, performance, OS, etc. since you can get far better/faster windows machines at a much lower price, but the macbook (in my opinion) is a work of art that is unmatched in that price range. It is thin, light, seemless--truly an amazing aesthetic machine.
Then again, why you need a $1,300 work of art for a computer is beyond me. I certainly would opt for a much more kick ass Windows machine or save myself a few hundred bucks, just saying that I don't think there are as "nice" of Windows machines at the base macbook price point.
Same reason we prefer shitty beer & hamburgers my friend.
Marketing.
The best beer in the world are the lesser knowns.
or are they premium cars which are more expensive and better than other cars that cost less (but are still excellent products depending on what you value)? I'd say Macs are premium priced and better alternatives--and if you read tech reviews, its is actually kind of difficult to find one that doesn't agree with my statement.
BMW's are successful pretty much just due to marketing. They really aren't any better than any other car.
I had a boss that had a BMW. Most of the time we spent together was me driving him to and from his dealership because his car was broken down.
you are incorrect. If you value driving, as an objective fact the technology and engineering in BMW is better than your car. (I'd say the same for Audi and MB, and I don't own any of them). and again, just like with Mac, people that review cars for a living, that drive every car there is, agree that this is so--just like a majority of tech reviewers.
Because he took this one guy he knows who had lots of problems and made that the rule that BMW's are successful because of marketing. I have a lot more factual evidence on my side IMO
Iv'e had my MacBook Pro for almost ten years and have never had a lick of trouble with it. Perhaps it's just me but I've never had a Windows computer last over 4.
Less functional? Maybe. Twice as expensive? You get what you pay for.
The answer is, it was a bit of both.
The point you made about taking care of my machine is exactly why I switched to a Mac. I've never had to take care of it and it still works almost perfect.