OT: Windows 10 problems?
Last week I finally got the long-awaited Windows 10 upgrade, and I immediately had some problems that I have been wondering if anyone else has experienced.
First off, I have since switched back to Windows 7 after three days of trying to fix the problems on my own.
I have the Windows 10 upgrade on a laptop, and the first thing I noticed upon upgrading was that my touchpad and clickers were disabled completely.
I went into the settings and enabled the touchpad, but the clickers still wouldn't work. On top of that, every time I shut off and turned on my computer, the touchpad was again disabled by the OS.
Another major problem was the inability to stream video on browsers other than Chrome. As we know, Chrome and streaming video is.......uh, not good to say the least. I use IE to stream BTN2GO, ESPN3 and WWE Network video and it worked perfectly on my Windows 7's IE.
Well, not on 10. I got nothing but a blank, green screen with sound playing every single I time I tried streaming a video. Tried Firefox, and the same thing happened. Streaming video is one of the most important features on a computer for me personally.
Just wondering if anyone else has had any problems since the upgrade. Share if you have experienced any or anything like I have.
I get that it just literally came out and I'm making quite the leap, going from 7 and bypassing Windows 8 and 8.1 to Windows 10. That user interface, while fast, is so confusing and makes life difficult just to find the control panel!
August 18th, 2015 at 2:43 PM ^
August 18th, 2015 at 3:07 PM ^
And then you will have problems with it a year or two from now. Then you will have to get repairs. Then you will have to get better virus programs. Etc etc etc. Macs are a long-term solution; an investment. They are far superior to any other computer out there.
August 18th, 2015 at 3:34 PM ^
I've had my desktop for about 5 years. Paid like 750 for it.
Not once have I had to take it in for repairs. Only thing I've done is spend 150 for a better video card. 5+ years later and can still run the newest games that come out.
And my anti-virus is free.
But you keep on assuming that all PCs have to go in for repairs, though, and keep on overpaying for a mediocre machine.
August 18th, 2015 at 3:42 PM ^
I admire Apple for the many innovations they've brought (or at least perfected), and they were once amazing, but now they're just overpriced. But at least you don't have viruses written for MacOS that often.
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August 18th, 2015 at 3:44 PM ^
And if you have to repair an Apple, you have to go to the Apple store and pay their ridiculous price. Where as with PC you have a multitude of options.
August 18th, 2015 at 3:58 PM ^
Well that's the beauty of Apple computers. They rarely, if ever, need to be fixed.
August 18th, 2015 at 5:04 PM ^
Again, bought my desktop five years ago and a lot of its guts are still better than what Mac is putting out. Hasnt broke, nothing. And I will continue to love paying less for a far superior machine.
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August 18th, 2015 at 5:04 PM ^
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August 18th, 2015 at 9:08 PM ^
That is almost comically untrue, but keep believing that. I've seen lines of people standing around the repair desk in Grand Central with a variety of busted Apple products, including laptops.
Apple makes fine products, but they have convinced a generation of people that they've cracked the code for device development when they simply haven't. But I'm sure you can't hear me behind those sweet Beats headphones they've been tricking people into thinking are actually any good.
August 18th, 2015 at 4:00 PM ^
Tell them to stop abusing their Macs and they will be fine.
August 18th, 2015 at 4:54 PM ^
Dude, I have an Arch Linux box,
If I wanted I could make that thing look, feel, and run exactly like OSX does. Fuck off with your MAC IS THE BESTEST bullshit.
Its not.
I'm a tech guy.
Apple does certain things very well.
Other things they don't do so well.
August 18th, 2015 at 5:46 PM ^
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August 18th, 2015 at 11:31 PM ^
I'm not a PC gamer
But if I were, I would probably dual boot.
That being said, I know Linux has made great strides with gaming.
August 18th, 2015 at 7:10 PM ^
All Macs run for 10,000 years without ever having any problems ever. That is all every Mac owner ever tells me. Repeatedly. Even when I never asked them.
August 18th, 2015 at 8:42 PM ^
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August 18th, 2015 at 5:51 PM ^
August 18th, 2015 at 7:09 PM ^
Macs are an INVESTMENT!! LOL!
August 19th, 2015 at 12:54 AM ^
August 18th, 2015 at 10:11 PM ^
haha what a joke...
i had a macbook pro and a recalled part died (and it died exactly how their recall website said it would), and the apple "geniuses" wouldnt replace the recalled part for free. instead they said it would cost me 500 bucks to replace this part. the recall website even had a date as to when you had to return the product by, and i beat that date by 6 months. the best part is, that when i asked the "genius" why i should ever buy one of their shit products again, he told me because they are like a mercedes and microsoft products are like fords. i told him if had a mercedes and it was recalled, im damn sure that shit would be fixed for free.
after speaking with the manager with still no luck, i walked to the microsoft store and used my 500 bucks i just saved on a new windows 8 touchscreen laptop and havent looked back since.
August 18th, 2015 at 3:18 PM ^
Why not have best of both worlds. I have MacBook Pro and a custom desktop.
When I replace my laptop, I might look into these new ones that ASUS have come out with. Those look nice.
August 18th, 2015 at 6:31 PM ^
If there is a group of users who are the complete opposite of "thinking differently", it would be Mac users. Hell, I user a variety of OSes, and the Apple ecosystem's "sameness" and conformity is one of its best features.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:08 PM ^
Just see this thread from a few weeks ago.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:14 PM ^
I upgraded and have had none of the problems you have mentioned. (Sorry if that doesn't help!).
One thing I don't know if I can change is that when you slide the right menu in (on a Surface), instead of a brightness slider, like in Win8.1, there's a brightness button that changes in increments of 25% each time it is touched. I actually like this - it's quick - except the increments don't include 0%. That means I have to actually open settings to bring the brightness down to 0% if I don't have me keyboard connected. Anyone know if that's changable?
August 18th, 2015 at 2:15 PM ^
August 18th, 2015 at 2:22 PM ^
Well, just to offer an opposing piece of anectotal evidence: I love Windows 10.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:28 PM ^
I have had 0 issues with Windows 10.
I had BSOD once, but that has nothing to do with Windows 10. I just have been to lazy to replace my corrupted ram. My brand new ram is just sitting on my desk waiting to be installed.
August 18th, 2015 at 6:34 PM ^
This has been one of the best upgrade rollouts I can remember. If you don't want to upgrade don't do it, but fearing the past with Windows (and let's be honest, there's a fair bit of revisionist history regarding these upgrade horror stories) won't help you here.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:17 PM ^
I don't like juniper or incandescent light bulbs or weed wackers. Sorry if this info doesn't help.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:23 PM ^
Did Marsupial Monday get shot down in your survey?
August 18th, 2015 at 2:40 PM ^
Well About 40% said they want it, but half of those think the mods will delete it. 4 out of 7 mods (I know no one would lie about being a mod) say they would not delete it. Also most of those surveyed were drunk which is not surprising. I'd say . . . IT's HAPPENING!!!
August 18th, 2015 at 3:24 PM ^
We could have Simian Sunday if yours works out.
August 18th, 2015 at 3:49 PM ^
Are you sure your're not a Catarrhini or Gibbon to be more specific?
Gibbon! Gibbon! RGard is a Gibbon!!!! I bet that's what they said back in primary schoool.
Just kidding though. I know your one of the higher apes. You guys are all about your classs and groups.
August 18th, 2015 at 5:03 PM ^
RGard is a monkey!!! I did have to educate them on the differences between Chimps and monkeys. When that didn't work, they learned that Chimps are more accurate than monkeys when it comes to pooh flinging.
Yes, we are all about class and groups. Notice I refuse to capitalize 'monkeys'.
August 18th, 2015 at 3:34 PM ^
There's only one Monday left in off topic season.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:19 PM ^
An OS that has bugs a week after it's release? Good call, better get rid of it.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:29 PM ^
Surprise! As usual, you contribute nothing to the actual thread's topic and just swing by to knock me.
Not being able to stream video when I need to stream video multiple times a week is not an option.
Also, I can switch back to Windows 10 at any time if I want to. I keep getting notifications about it on the taskbar.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:38 PM ^
You could type this into Google and get all your answers from people who have the same problem, but you put your daily irrelevant thread on the board instead.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:41 PM ^
40+ comments deep. Really irrelevant there.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:47 PM ^
Look at all those comments! I'm sure you already framed the screenshot and put it up on your wall.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:43 PM ^
Unfortunately he's not alone WD. There seem's to be a fairly robust group of downvoters who like to knock you for some reason.
Apparently being a hyper-fan for Michigan on a blog founded by a guy who was such a hyper-fan for Michigan himself he found a way to monetize it by leveraging the repeated visits of other like minded Michigan hyper-fans is somehow unacceptable to certain people.
August 18th, 2015 at 3:09 PM ^
Well, there is an argument to be made for the necessity of WD to post this thread. A google search most definitely would have been more productive. Nobody has addressed his problem. Several posters (predictably) chime in with their personal computer preference, which isn't relative to the post.
I didn't care in this case, since I'd also just updated. But there is the question of why WD feels the need to create this thread, given he creates, you know, a couple thread here and there.
August 18th, 2015 at 3:21 PM ^
I was more surprised with his admission that he is majoring in computer programming, but couldn't find the control panel.
August 18th, 2015 at 3:27 PM ^
Actually they kinda did address his problem, perhaps without knowing they did. The issue (as several people have pointed out) according to our IT department head is the drivers. Many of tthem are either incompatable or havent been updated corrected so they arent functioning as they should/will shortly. Which is not unusual for a new operating system.
In defense of WD if I didnt have an IT department I could ask I'd probably have done the same thing. Google directs you to user forums which, IMO can be completely worthless if you're not a super-techno geek. At least here people speak in terms novices like me can understand and you can have an active dialoge on the issue and not have to wait three days for a response.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:23 PM ^
My first attempt to upgrade from 7 to 10 went great until I shut down my computer for the night and tried to log in the next day. I was stuck on the lock screen with no way to get to the sign-in screen. I thought it was my keyboard/mouse, but that wasn't the problem. Tried doing all the system restore/repair options that came with the ISO image of W10, but it didn't work and I only managed to make things worse. I happened to have a spare SSD lying around (long story), so I did a clean install of W10 on it. I was expecting to have to then pay for the clean install of W10 since it was on a new SSD and wasn't an upgrade from a 7, but since I managed to successfully upgrade once, the new SSD didn't affect my prior activation. That was a nice surprise. The only issue now is having to reinstall all my programs. Oh, for some reason, Chrome is REALLY slow on W10. Dunno why.
August 18th, 2015 at 2:27 PM ^
Sounds very much like driver problems. It's a pain, but you should be able to get updated drivers. In fact, it's quite possible that you're using drivers that are out of date even on Windows 7, and can update them before upgrading to Window 10. In particular, the streaming problem is almost certainly due to the video driver.
I'm on vacation this week, but will be back at work next Monday. If you want to give it another try then, if you run in to problems I can walk you through sending me the logs and I can troubleshoot for you; I've been a programmer and program manager at Microsoft for 19 years, so I'm accustomed to being unpaid technical support for family and friends. Also, we're intensely interested in upgrade problems, so I can easily grab help from other engineers if need be.
Send me mail at andrewgrAToutlook.com if you decide to go that route.
August 18th, 2015 at 3:04 PM ^
I'm hoping to sponge off your gracious offer to help WD. I got my first BSOD in W10 yesterday with the error code of "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT." I did a memtest and it isn't my RAM sticks, and Windows memory scan came back clean. Based on my research on the interwebs, it is likely a fautly driver somewhere. I have average computer knowledge. Is there an easy way to find out which driver is causing the problem?
August 18th, 2015 at 7:24 PM ^
You can cover like 90% of the cases by updating your video, audio, and USB drivers.
By far the biggest culprit are video drivers. If it were me, I'd make sure that's up to date and see if that fixes it before bothering with the others. You might also google your video card and Windows 10, it may be that others have the same problem and the manufacturer hasn't yet fixed the driver.
In terms of diagnosing which driver it is, yes that can be done, but I don't have a Windows machine with me on vacation and don't remember off the top of my head where to look. But it's probably a good idea to make sure you have the latest drivers I mentioned anyway. At least try the video driver.
August 18th, 2015 at 8:31 PM ^
Thank you! Will do.