OT: Who's Your President?
because of all the ass he got.
You are a winner. Your prize? A chubby intern.
Paula Jones and Hillary ain't exactly the kind of ass you want to get.
Therefore I won't say my comment and just say that I'd be JFK cuz he slept with Marilyn Monroe.
Brought down the Soviet Union! Starred in movies with a monkey. A true Renaissance man.
It's been a LONG time since any of them truly did a good job, or focused on what really needed to be done. I suppose I'd go JFK, since he was the last pretty universally respected president (Lee Harvey Oswald withstanding). Plus I wanna know the Kennedy Family Secrets.
Future President? I'd be Jon Stewart of Stewart/Colbert 2012.
"How'd it go Ari?"
"How'd the fucking Bay of Pigs go Lloyd!?!?"
Stewart's got better actual political credentials, and has a proven ability to be serious (And totally destroy moronic financial show hosts). Vice Prez is mostly an ambassador. Who better to be an ambassador than the guy that got the head of an anti-racism group to admit that racism was a good thing.
Please note that that video is chopped up from the original interview, wherein nothing actually racist is said. The original interview isn't on the internets anywhere, but there are quite a few chopped up ones because it was a contest he ran.
Basically, point of fact, he got the woman to say, in so many words, that it was important to judge people on the color of their skin. She was laughing her head off after he got her to say it, though, and she realized what she'd done.
I can't find it but... it should be in here somewhere.
I guess it depends on how you determine "universally respected." I tend to do it with election data.
Kennedy won a close election (Only beat Nixon by ~100K votes--less than 1% in an election with 60M+ voters). He also had 303 Electoral Votes.
Recent (since JFK) presidents with bigger margins (Total Electoral Votes and popular vote margin of victory)
Obama (2008): 365 EVs, 8M votes
Bush (2004): 286 EVs, 3M votes - (Only larger in margin of victory)
Clinton (1996): 379 EVs, 8M votes
Bush (1988): 426 EVs, 7M votes
Reagan (1984): 525 EVs, 17M votes - (Largest electoral win ever)
Reagan (1980): 489 EVs, 7M votes
Nixon (1972): 520 EVs, 18M votes - (Largest popular vote margin ever)
Nixon (1968): 301 EVs, 500K votes
LBJ (1964): 486 EVs, 16M votes
Not trying to be a jerk (or political for that matter). And I was born in 1981, so I don't exactly remember JFK (and don't have good or bad memories of him either). I guess I just think about other presidents (most notably in my mind Reagan) when I think about well respected presidents. I will grant that election data is not the cleanest measure of "respect"--Nixon was a crook.
JFK has a strong "brand." He generally ranks in the top 5 in public-opinion surveys on this topic, whereas historians don't rank him that high. The whole "Camelot" thing, the fact that he was fairly young and handsome - and that he died in office - have helped to romanticize his legacy in a lot of people's minds.
Because in 170 or so years after my presidency, They Might Be Giants will pen a song in my honor.
Polk is my answer, though maybe not because of They Might Be Giants... haha.
The man campaigned on four issues:
1) Annex California and Texas (led to Mexican-American war)
2) Solve the Oregon Territory dispute with Britain
3) Reduce tariffs
4) Reestablish the independent treasury
He then said he would accomplish them in four years and promised to not run for re-election.
He implemented these issues successfully and won his war, and did not run for a second term.
"It has been well observed that the office of President of the United States should neither be sought nor declined. I have never sought it, nor should I feel at liberty to decline it, if conferred upon me by the voluntary suffrages of my fellow citizens." ~James K. Polk (after learning he had been nominated as a Presidential candidate)
George Washington because behind every good man there is a woman, and that woman was Martha Washington, man, and everyday George would come home, she would have a big fat bowl waiting for him, man, when he come in the door, man, she was a hip, hip, hip lady, man.
George Washington was in a cult, and the cult was into aliens, man.
There's some spooky shit goin' on there. And it's green too.
I have a bad case of Chester A Arthritis
Arthur has the policies America wants, and the muttonchops we need.
hair on the palms but before blindness.
Because I love to disappoint and he was set on such a high pedestal he has no chance of living up to the expectations. His team was preseason #1 starting 22 freshman.....13 of which are non-schole walk-ons :)
That being said, for all of our sakes I hope he proves to be a successful president.
You cannot question the power of the beard.
for whom I have the most respect and admiration.
He's man who rose from humble beginnings to become a self-taught lawyer, state legislator, congressman and President. His legal work on behalf of railroads was fundamental to their growth; and his foresight, even during the most difficult war in this nation's history, resulted in the transcontinental railroad. He was frustrated by the northern generals' conduct of the war and became an astute commander-in-chief. Reading his address at Gettysburg, written nearly 150 years ago, causes a lump in my throat.
But would I want to live his life?
That life ended by an assassin's bullet on the eve of victory, at the age of 55. Three (of four) of his children died before adulthood; the strain of their loss took a great toll on his wife's mental stability.
Tough choice: pain and suffering leading to immortatilty.
"pain and suffering leading to immortality."
Considering his role in the preservation of the country and his countless contributions.... I'd take a bullet to accomplish what he did and live a shorter life.
Other presidents have come and gone but as long as the U.S. exists his legacy and stature will endure.
really consider this a 'political' post...more like a U.S. history post.
But if you disagree, by all means feel free to ignore it. We will try to make due without your contribution.
Anyone but Franklin Pierce
Fine, you can have William Henry Harrison, and spend the entirety of your extremely short presidency coughing and sneezing.
What about Benjamin Pierce?
The first president ever with a still in the oval office?
Definitely George Washington because after I'm dead I get to be placed in strippers 'panties'. What a life.
Michael Scott's president is Ben Franklin. He was one hell of a stripper too.
Probably not Duderstadt.
He has lead a pretty awesome life. I wouldn't mind having his college experience, his owning the Texas Rangers experience, or his time as governor of Texas (as it's a VERY weak governor anyway).
Yeah, Yale thing.
What whole Yale thing?
Well, he was probably a closet homosexual who did a lot of cocaine. That whole Yale thing.
I chose to dismiss that because, as the question at the end is "if you could be a president," I wouldn't have made those decisions. I would be able to chose differently. Now whether that would totally change the space-time continuum to where he wouldn't be president, I'm not sure, but I guess that would also force me to change my answer to a president. Either way, getting the preferential treatment of being a Bush during G.W.'s time would be an interesting life.
Say what you will about the guy, but he did more to influence the future of American politics, both good an bad) than almost anyone before.
Ooops. Thought you said President of the University!
I'd love to see a South Park where Jimmy does a stand up skit and spends the whole episode trying to say Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Ma.... Maaaaaaa... Maaaaaa...
The buck stops here.
-Harry S. Truman
He has the Big History thing, and he is super cool. And he has, by far, the asbolute HOTTEST first lady by his side this country has ever seen. No more fucking graybeards or Stepford Wives or June Cleavers for THIS reporter.
After that, Bill Clinton. Prolly our last president who will have been able to accomplish significant stuff (other than total disasters like igniting Middle East powder kegs).
No sir. Jackie-O?
For most of the same reasons as the OP.
I would say Zoltan Mesko, but he's already the Space Emperor and President would be a step down.
Jackson may have been the biggest badass ever.
Besides being the only President to ever pay off the national debt, he also wanted strict term limits on politicians to curb corruption.
Jackson was the first President to be part of an assassination attempt being fired at twice at point blank range. Jackson then proceeded to run the guy down and beat the crap out of him with his cane.
Furthermore, Jackson dueled with a man (Charles Dickinson) who made some unflattering remarks about his wife. Dickinson took the first shot and wounded Jackson. Not flinching, Jackson fired back, killing Dickinson. The bullet that wounded Jackson was lodged within inches of his heart. He carried that bullet in his chest for the rest of his life.
He was an everyman who invited anyone to his public parties at the White House and once set out a 1,400lb block of cheese for the people.
Yeah, he did displace the Indians, but in a great moment in American history, at Jackson's own funeral, his pet parrot started swearing and had to be removed from the ceremony.
I find that to be a more exciting life than T.R., as he was the original Chuck Norris.
"Displacing the Indians" would be akin to saying the South offered a better way of life than Blacks could have had in Africa.
It's not for small reasons that Natice Americans of the time nicknamed Jackson "Longknife."
'Old Hickory' as well, but he was such a divisive force during his time. I want to be loved!
Pitt the Elder!!
Long life, ladies man, idealist, oenophile, smartest guy in any room. Nice house too
What he said.
surprise, there, Wahoo.
And his wife never seemed to get angry no matter HOW often he slept around. Understanding woman.
... sure he was a little gimpy by the end, and his wife was lacking in talent, but when I heard my grandparents talk about how they admired him, how he lifted this nation's spirit, how he led during the War... you just don't get that anymore.
No question, Jim
beat me to it.
I'm also tempted to say William Henry Harrison. None of the pressure of being president, but you still get your name on the list.
Yea, I'm all about installing dictatorships in Latin America and lobbying for the sterilization of the mentally handicapped (fwiw could even mean people with mental illness, not just downs syndrome, etc.)
No thanks on Teddy.
It was 100 fucking years ago. The Kennedy's lobotomized their daughter who had a 90 IQ because they thought she was retarded.
criticize the opinions of others, but I notice you offer none of your own.
Who would your pick be? I am sure there are some not-so-great moments in the administrations of every President (except perhaps for WHH).
Born in Texas in 1890
Started at running back and linebacker at West Point in 1912
Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army from 1945–48
President of Columbia University 1948-50
Supreme Commander of the NATO 1950-1952
two terms as President 1953-1961
Lived to the age of 79
As the last president of his generation, his presidency was somewhat overshadowed by that of his more youthful successor, JFK.
Tim Tebow, if he could take a little time off from circumcicng orphans.
Favre, not Farve.
I also mispelled dollar which should tell you that I suck at typing.
I'm surprised you didn't select Taft. He did, after all, begin the tradition of Presidential Ceremonial First Pitches (and as legend has it, the 7th inning stretch).
His rotund figure is a downer, though.
Might not have known that, or if I did, slipped my mind.
He died in thirty days!!
Ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. Established the Great Seal of the United States, the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department and that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day.
William Henry Harrison, because I could say I was President, but I wouldn't have to do any of the work
"If nominated, I will not accept; if drafted, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve.”
Now this is my kind of politician
If I could be any political figure in American history, though, it would be Ben Franklin. And second choice wouldn't even be close.
Calvin Coolidge...the last true small government conservative...
because he has a mustache for michigan
but as long as it is ...
GIVE ME KWAME .... hes a winner
Not quite politics as its more historical. There's a couple things said that are kind of close, but as long as no one is replying to those particular comments, it's alright for now.
Long live the protector of Mexico!
May the light His Imperial Majesty bestowed upon us forever burn brightly.
(Also, don't call it "Frisco.")
Ford. Because that would mean I also played football at UM.
Gotta be GW. The man was so universally loved that he never had to campaign and faced no real opposition in his two elections. And as the first President, he was pretty much free to do what he wanted, unconstrained by precedent or public opinion (he conveniently invented the custom of "executive privilege" when it suited him). Unlike almost everyone else to hold the office, he stepped down as beloved as he had been when he arrived.
Only downside: no White House to live in.
- Good wealth and a plantation resulting in a comfortable, prosperous life
- Was indispensable to the revolutionary war effort; many have raised doubts whether the war would have been won without him and his understanding (at least after NY) of the nature of the revolution and the importance not in winning battles, but keeping his army in the field.
- Presided over the constitutional convention of 1787
- Served with other giants (both in war and administration) whose importance at the time paled in comparison to his (Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Hamilton, etc). As far as fame, the only peer he really had as a contemporary was Franklin.
- When he left power King George remarked that Washington was "the greatest man in the world." Washington truly saw himself (and acted accordingly) as a present-day Cincinnatus.
- Exceeded all of his contemporaries (esp. Jefferson) by at least freeing his slaves upon his death.
Washington didn't formulate the ideals that modeled this country, but he was the actual embodiment of them. This country was exceedingly fortunate that its first president was also arguably its greatest and most honorable.
Hands down, Martin Van Buren. He's the man I most admire. Easily the meanest, baddest mutha of a President that ever lived.
What makes Van Buren so fascinating is that, for much of his early life, he spoke Dutch as his native language.