OT - Who should the Tigers pick up before the deadline?

Just work Don Kelly into the rotation so Brandon Inge can continue his phenoenal performance at third, and at the plate. 

trade Verlander to the Yankees for a bucket of balls?

We should be looking at Aramis for 3B.  Bring power and average along with above average defense to the black hole that has been the 3 bag this year.  As far as pitching it might be worth giving Turner a shot.  If we go after a bat im not sure how willing we would be to spend on pitching but kuroda would be a decent stop gap.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/tigers-interested-in-jeremy-guthri...

Jarrod Washburn

Pick up some prospects at 3rd and the OF and give 'em a chance.

Otherwise go the other direction and get Wright and the best LF available.

What I don't want to see is the Tigers pick up stop-gap players. It is a waste of everything you give up unless they make the difference now and how likely is that?

Go for quality or youth.

Ubaldo......who cares if that makes 5 righties in the rotation, he's getting his velocity and stuff back, and turns an under achieving rotation into a strength. Besides, you dont need all those arms down in the minors, that's what they're there for, move em.

Is a new manager an acceptable answer?

Derek Lowe

Dump Rayburn and Inge.  Addition by subtraction...

i think the price is going to be too high for a player like ubaldo...the most realistic thing i can expect is either guthrie or a dempster-type veteran starter

I've also heard that Carlos Beltran is a possibility as well.

Jacob Turner is ranked the #13 prospect in all of baseball by Keith Law right now. No way Tigers trade him unless its like a Halladay type of player. They wont part with Turner of Ubaldo IMO. Turners only in AA and could be in AAA or playin for the Tigers later this season.

The Tigers need back end rotation pitching bad and obviously to improve the offense, especially over Inge/Raburns bats. Im not sure if there are really any difference makers out there but a couple of .250 hitters could probably make a big difference especially with the studs the Tigers already have. The offense has been great considering they basically only play 6 innings a game with that horrible 7-8-9 (not including Avila when hes down there).

I think Id like to see Ubaldo but depends on the price. I hope they shy away from Reyes but the Mets are probably going to hold onto him. Carlos Beltran would be nice. Too bad he doesnt play 2B/3B.

Andrew Miller

I don't see anybody that is a) worth a top tier prospect, and b) a surefire upgrade over our #5 starter. With the washburn experience in mind, i'm hoping they don't pull the trigger, unless one of those guys can be had foe cash alone (lowe, in theory, but nyy and bos want him too).

At third on the other hand, I'd be ready trade anyone except rurner and castellano (sp?) (and maybe danry ____) for certain, average production and non-hideyokids field.

Add a SP - Like Derek Lowe

Replace Inge/Raburn by any means necessary with a serviceable 3B. 

The Tigers have been pretty upfront about Turner not seeing the majors this season.  They are really trying to limit his innings, and pitches as he gets stretched out and turned into a professional pitcher.  

That being said, I think the Tigers would ideally want Wandy since he is a good left hander.  The only thing I hope the Tigers do not do is go over spend for someone like Derek Lowe (he is too old and doesn't have any upside) what you see is what you get. 
As for 3B I wouldn't mind seeing the Tigers trade for a SS (Steven Drew or long long shot Reyes) and move Jhonny Peralta back to 3B since the market for a 3B is very slim right now.

I like the idea of Kuroda, he's pitching fairly well and his contract expires this year.  I know there's sort of a starting pitching hole, but I'd rather get a bat.  The top and bottom of the lineup are in seriously bad shape.  Even I can't defend Inge this year.

If the discussion is who "should" the Tigers pick up, then I think the answer is Anibal Sanchez.  However, I have yet to hear his name tossed out there in relation to Detroit.

Everytime this topic comes up on sports radio, someone always says something like, "Whatever they do, they can't have another Doyle Alexander for John Smoltz trade. Smoltz is a Hall of Famer and Alexander was out of the majors three years later."   They always miss the point.  Alexander was never intended to be a long-term guy.  He was intended to get the Tigers into the postseason in 1987, and he did, going 9-0 down the stretch.  Making the playoffs is very, very difficult, and if you have the chance you have to strike.  (And it's not like Smoltz single-handedly would have kept the Tigers afloat during their lost decade.  He probably would have bolted as a free agent first chance he got.) 

People are using this argument against Derek Lowe now.  If he can put them over the top, they've got to try.  Prospects are hit or miss.  A playoff opportunity won't be there every year.  Minnesota's not going to start out in last place every season.  Fans are too gunshy.  Standing pat with all your prospects and never rolling the dice can turn you into the Pirates.

A left-handed starting pitcher?  

OK

His name is Wandy?

Absolutely!

- In my head it doesn't rhyme with Randy, but the first syllable is as in magic wand...am I right on this?

Would be the guy they should key on, a number two starter and a lefty behind Verlander who currently pitches in a definite hitters park who would benefit greatly from pitching at Comerica.  Plus, his asking price is likely low enough from Houston so as to not require Tigers to give up Turner and Wandy is 32 so 3-4 more years left at least.

Too bad they gave up Jurrjens. That guy has been a beast this year for the braves

Detroit should go after Kuroda, but it sounds like he's not willing to waive his no-trade clause to an East Coast team. 

Inge is a total abomination and needs to be replaced ASAP. Wright's back issues = no thanks for what we'd have to give up to get him. I'd love to get Aramis Ramirez, who is already on fire and has been a second half player his entire career. Don't see that happening though.  It's really too bad Peralta doesn't like playing third, because there are some solid SS options available that could help. 

Houston is asking way too much for Rodriguez. If their asking price fell, he'd be a decent option. 

Jimenez is a pipe dream. New York can afford to trade away top prospects to get guys like him because their resources are so vast. If he goes anywhere, it would likely be to New York. 

The Tigers aren't in a horrible position right now. They need to keep Turner and Castellanos though. I feel like anybody else should be expendable because the division is there for the taking....not to mention that they could make a playoff run with another pitching piece + another great second half from Scherzer. 

What do you guys think about getting a package deal of Guthrie and Reynolds from the O's? Sure Reynolds strikes out a ton, but his power could be quite valuable to the Tigers, plus you add to the fact that Guthrie could give you solid innings and the back end of the rotation. Maybe not feasible but just a thought.

Please not Ubaldo Jimenez, he had a Cinderella 1st first last year and has been back to normal ever since. I wouldn't give up the farm for him. I like Jeremy Guthrie though. He always put good numbers on a bad team and in a hitter's ballpark. Plus you could probably get him for prospects like Adam Wilk or Duane Below.

Exactly my thoughts.  Inge and Raburn are actually pretty cheap to DFA, evven though both are signed for two years. 

Kind of chump change, compared to average baseball salaires.

Magglio will end up with reasonable statitstics, but the Tigers would hae been better off not signing him to an extension and letting Dirks, Wells, Boesch, Jackson (and even Raburn) fight among themselves for the 3 starter/resere roles.

Inge is really the major culprit  I would get rid of.  I have liked his defense, but he is no longer outstanding at defense; he's making Raburnesque errors.  He's never been a hitter, but he's really struggling and sticking ot his own counsel.

I don't think Don Kelley should be a starter, but at least he knows his role - talented defender who is scrappy in his at bats.  I'll bet he can bunt and do all the little things th at Babe Inge has never felt necessary for him to do.

What I am sick of is this same conversation for the past 6 years, and where has it gotten us?  We never make the big move bc we are too affraid to part with prospects, therefore we end up not good enough to even make the playoffs ('06 notwithstanding).  They have to either buy or sell, decide, does this team with this core have a legit shot at a title, not playoffs, but title.  If yes, then sell Turner (please spare me the 'remember Doyle Alexander' bit).  If no, then sell the most marketable pieces of the core and start new (the latter probably means JL and DD are out).  If buyers, make it big, no more mid-level busts