OT: What is wrong with Connor Cook?
There is a lengthy article about Connor Cook. I thought he was a very good college QB, but it seems his personality is going to cost him dearly.
One person says
“There’s just something put-offish about him,” an offensive coordinator for a third team said. “It appears to me – I could be dead wrong – but he’d be a guy that, when he got in the locker room, they’d try to eat him up and spit him out.”
It appears to me - and I could be dead wrong - but this article is all anonymous sources telling their opinions of somebody after meeting them once or perhaps never at all.
NFL scouting in a nutshell.
these things matter, and have to matter to the league, because of the millions of dollars involved. If everyone made 100k they wouldn't care nearly as much about gossip, but really you would be foolish if you didn't at least check it out.
Since these anonymous opinions based off 1 or 2 meetings can cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars I think it matters a little.
MSU's former QB may or may not make less money than he could have if anonymous information was or was not brought to light.
So relevant.
and effectiveness at managing the situation are often independant issues.
NFL teams could spend a bajillion dollars on scouting and vetting a draft pick and still be totally wrong.
I obviously don't know the guy, but hasn't this been the narrative around him for a while? The reason he wasn't a captain or something? Although it could just be that's he's not a real vocal guy.
April 21st, 2016 at 10:41 PM ^
But I was shocked when I found out he wasn't a captain. A 3rd year starting senior QB who won the Rose Bowl not being a captain just seems unprecedented to me.
And there's absolutely nothing wrong with linking an article based on anonymous sources if it disses a sparty or bucknut, d'antoni or cryer...
Sorry, gotta ruin your perfect score and downvote ya!
So we needed a thread about this, why?
It's OT!!!! season, now with more exclamation points!!!
I agree, although I vastly prefer the OT: Personal Life Question versus these annoying OT:Sports questions.
have enjoyed disliking the guy for some time now. It's always heartening when dickish people actually lose out for being dickish.
If a picture is worth a thousand words, this .gif is worth at least 10,000. I'm kind of glad that Cook is by all reports a dickhead - all reports on Kirk Cousins are that he's a stand-up guy, and that juxtaposition of someone being an MSU QB and a good guy causes me all sorts of cognitive dissonance.
Connor Cook being a dickhead? That's the old normal.
Also, I'd not noticed it before, but it's hilarious how Cook's teammates are grimacing to see Cook get the award. Dantonio looks ready to felate Cook, but the rest look like someone just farted at a funeral.
nearly ran off the podium and left him there alone, that spoke volumes for how his teammates thought of him. Walks like a prick, talks like a prick, looks like a prick, prick reports from NFL insiders. He's a prick. Whether he wins in the NFL has yet to be determined. Prick
Ah the old, "give me that trophy and get out of my way old man, whoever you are."
...due to the board's ongoing infatuation with Jeff George and anyone that might be compared to him.
Then be as grumpy as you want, acting just like Bill Belichick. Afterall, no team has/had a QB named Congenialty. Kick tail as a QB and friends will pour out of the woodwork.
April 21st, 2016 at 11:57 PM ^
The self appointed board police is probably the worst thing about this board. It's the offseason and you're going to complain about about people talking about an MSU QB and the NFL draft? Don't click on the link, but 147 replies so far shows you're in the minority.
See my post directly above for the reasons why...
To Cousins: Meh!
To Cook: Not much!
The Broncos brought him in for a workout recently and some of the local media -- mainly former players -- have intimated the same. That he might be a serviceable back up physically, has limited upside potential in the long run but isn't a very personable guy.
Locally some have compared him to Kyle Orton who was known to be a bit of a dick and surly with his teammates.
That's all well and good but the redskins also lost to every team with a record over .500 last year and Cousins didn't perform super well against good defenses. I think most teams would also like to have a guy that has a lot of natural talent too.
In the last 8 games the redskins played two teams that finished above .500, the panthers and the patriots. They lost both games, cousins threw interceptions in both games and probably more importantly only threw 1 td in each game so its not like it was a 3 td 1 int game. They lost both games scoring 10 and 16 points. Cousins and the redskins might be good next year but call me when they get off that charmin soft schedule. Until then I don't buy it.
good qbs still play well against good teams. Sure they generally will have slightly worse stats but they will also have good games against those teams. He didn't lead his team to a single win against a team over .500. Sure maybe he isn't so bad he detracts from their ability to win but it doesn't seem like he adds a ton positive either. He is a neutral qb and the rest of the team wins or loses despite him, never because of him. That's not a recipe for long term success.
Im sorry but there isnt a schedule in the NFL that is Charmin soft.
AFC South?
Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round because he's not a natural talent. At least, not in the conventional sense. Very slow, average arm, meh college stats. He was also hilariously underdeveloped, extremely intelligent and had a frenzied passion for the game, but these are considered "intangibles" by NFL scouts (also known as "idiots").
If you wanted natural talent by NFL standards, well, that was why Ryan Leaf was the #2 pick two years prior.
There is a reason why he's being talked up as a 1st/2nd round pick.
Cousins seems like pretty good guy while at MSU. Cook seems like a prick. Kind of a lesser Ryan Mallett.
Did anyone wonder why Devin Gardner wasn't picked to be captain? ...besides me?
Yes. Gardner and Jake Ryan were named captains when the season ended. Not his fault Hoke decided to do it after.
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He couldn't complete over 60% of his throws in college, I don't think he was ever going to be a top 5 pick.
PLENTY of first round QBs are assholes - winning Miss Congeniality is not a prerequsit for being selected high in the draft.
Cook's issue is arm strength or lack thereof. He is considered to be both the most "pro-ready" and "lowest ceiling" QB prospect in the draft.
There's always hope as long as the Brown's have a pick.
It's unlike a sparty to be a douche.
If I woke up in the morning with my head sewn to the carpet, I couldn't be more surprised.
I'm kinda hungry. Wish there were a few state grads around me so I could eat those chips.