If you go past Bay City on I-75, you are officially Up North.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
If you go past Bay City on I-75, you are officially Up North.
Agreed. Bay City is Michigan's Mason-Dixon Line.
Only on the East side.
I'd add Mt.Pleasant as the central divider, and Big Rapids as the divider for the west side of the state.
I might go as far north as Clare and Reed City, and use US-10 as the dividing line.
Mt. Pleasant is a worthy dividing line, though I consider it an Up North town. A trip to Mt. Pleasant feels like a trip Up North - mine involved casino, golf, and the county fairgrounds one county over to hang out with Michigan's rednecks and see a Styx concert.
bay city and mt pleasant are on the same latitude
Sure. But, growing up on the west side of the state, I never drove through Bay City and thought to myself, "now I'm up north." For me, that happened when I passed Big Rapids or Reed City, on US-131, Bay City's rough equivalents for West Michigan.
I grew up in Bay City and graduated college in Mt Pleasant (CMU) and they are pretty much straight east and west from each other. As for a North/South divider, I completely agree... although I don't consider Mt P or Bay City to be "Up North," but anything past these cities qualifies.
You can actually find Pasties in the northern part of Bay City... on the west side for those familiar...
but they're all about the same latitude. its that region that is the cut off.
Except that I consider Mount Pleasant an "Up North" town, but Bay City as the northernmost extension of southeastern Michigan where all the people are.
I grew up in Michigan and my friends and I always drew a circle around the Detroit area as a divider between Michigan and Detroit. That was the only way we "split" Michigan, we figured we were all up north already.
ask anyone in florida and they'll say any place that has snow...
Nobody who puts a woolly hat on in 55-degree weather is qualified to determine what is Up North and what isn't.
I totally agree with that. I'm currently living in Nashville and the office I work in had the AC running full force today (meaning the office was roughly 70). There were at least 3 people wrapped up in their coats and sitting on their hands complaining about the "cold".
I vote for north of Flint, Lansing, and Muskegon--depending on the road. That said, I'm in Southern California; I think L.A. is "up north."
Living in LA, I think of the Valley as northish, and anything north of that as NorCal, which is the Californian equivalent of Up North.
Here some people consider Sonoma/Napa wine country north, or Mendocino.
To me it is Redding.
so that was the northern-most place i was familiar with. i got used to calling anything north of the majestic Zilwaukee Bridge "up north"
Living in the Metro Detroit area (though I was raised in the Lansing area) I always consider "Up North" to be anything past the Zilwaukee Bridge, though I will admit that some may consider it a little too far south to be really "Up North". Still, by the time I'm in Standish or West Branch, I've crossed a threshold.
Then, there are Da Yoopers who regard anyone south of the Mackinac Bridge to be a "Lowper" or a "Troll'. Its definitely a matter of perspective.
My grandma always used to say when the trees were between north and south of 75 that we were up north. I'd say that or the Ziluake Bridge are "up north"
I am TERRIFIED of that bridge... I freak out driving over it.
I remember going to Higgins Lake from A2 when the Zilwaukee brige was a draw bridge. There used to be some massive backups when the bridge opened for a freighter.
When I was little I used to think Whitmore Lake was up north... "are we there yet?"
I've always had a hard time saying "Zilwaukee Bridge" with a straight face. Somehow that name is very funny to say.
are the key for me.
I've always considered Clare the beginning of the North. The Zilwaukee Bridge works too.
Midland doesn't count as "Up North," though, so I'd vote against the Zilwaukee Bridge.
The 44th parallel works, but is a lot less practical.
I've always considered it to be north of the 45th parallel, personally. Once you've gone above the 45th there really aren't many people who would argue that you're not "up north". Almost everywhere south of there and you seem to find decently large pockets of resistance.
My dad and brother and I would always salute the 45th parallel sign on I-75 as we passed it as we were officially entering "up north".
Restricting myself to big roads (and risking overlap with other comments), I'd say anything north of:
* Sterling on I-75 (It becomes more woodsy around there, I think.)
* Clare on 127 (This is more true if you go west on 10; on 127 I think you need to reach Harrison.)
* Whitehall on 31 and whatever is at the same latitude on 131 (I think "north" is much farther south in the western part of the state.)
In general, I'd say that "up north" begins where the density of farming gets noticeably below its peak in the southern part of the state. (I'm not counting the orchards around Traverse City.)
I live near Ann Arbor now, but I am from the Soo, and these geographic points feel right to me. On I-75, it is where US-23 heads off to Tawas. I think you're right on farming, but I also look for birch trees.
False. Four hours south of Detroit, and you're in Kentucky, which is officially Down South. There's no way that driving four hours the other way doesn't get you Up North.
"and you're in Kentucky, which is officially Down South"
That's debatable depending where in the south you are. I live in the Deep South and people here don't consider it "down south" until you get to the Deep South.
Yeah, but I'll bet they like to include Kentucky bball when bragging about the ESS-EEE-CEE superiority.
I was actually surprised how few people cared about that here.
You can tell that Kentucky is considered Down South as soon as you hear someone from Kentucky say "kun-TUCK-eh" ... I don't know where, but there's an "R" in there somewhere too...
Four hours south of Detroit, you're in Ohio.
I get your point though... I am from North Detroit, so I consider anything north of Flint to be Up North.
I used to live in Cincinnati, and I could get from my apt to campus in 3.5 hours. That extra half an hour gets you to Northern Kentucky. So unless you hit bad traffic or you drive like a _____ you should be in Kentucky in 4 hours.
up north for me is whenever i reach escanaba michigan!! up der in da yooper land!
Living in Wisconsin, dontcha know.
Being from the saginaw area, I have to say anything north of gayling is "up north"
I would say Ludington and north is "Up North". Or you could go by this metric: If you can see the Milky Way on a clear night, you're probably "Up North".
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It really doesn't matter the geographical location. I firmly believe that anywhere in the world where McDonalds in the hang out for high school kids on Friday night is officially up north.
So, um, everywhere is up north then?
I dare you to hangout at a Flint, MI McDonalds on Friday Night looking for High School Kids.
Valid, just saying that being bored and hanging out at a McDonalds/Starbucks/local fast food establishment knows no geographic area. It is the very essence of being a teenager.
Now if we were talking about the rural areas and you said Walmart, I'd be in total agreement with you.
You may be right. Walmart could hold the key to the up north dilema.
I always preferred Meijer over Wal-Mart
Co-signed, Meijer is definitely the pinnacle of shopping super centers in this state.
I'd rather give my cash to a Michigan based company.
I only know it as "Meijer's."
in "Meijers", heathen!
agreed.... and for those who are curious, I found this Gem a while ago...
I do also say "Kroger's," but I've never said "Ford's." That one always sounded weird to me. (I would not say "K-Mart's" either.)
I've never said "Ford's" either, but Meijer's, Kroger's, Farmer Jack's, Damman's, Penney's, and everything else. Never even realized I did it or that it was a Michigan thing until I left the state for college and people asked why the hell I was talking about going to "Teeter's."
I do that with "Nordtrom's.' A lot of people correct me on that one.
Born and raised in Michigan, I don't add an 's' to anything except "Nordstroms" for some odd reason. Anyway... This post made me think of this video:
There are a lot of places in the UP where the only convenient restaurant derives a large percentage of its profits from pasties. Does that mean it isn't Up North?
Yes and pasties suck.
My Yooper friends are hunting you now. Beware overweight men dressed in camo gear and bright orange vests.
I've seen these guys before...good strong men, with strong values and substandard dental care.
So true. And if you're in Ishpeming you have to add in cudighi.
north of gaylord
I am north of Sault Canada to cottage about 8 times a year and it doesn't feel to "north" until I get north of Gaylord. Just FYI, but for any of you MGoBloggers with the kids the Energy Outlet Kids Park next to the Gaylord arena is a really good kids playground and free with a quality picnic area if you are doing that drive.
when i was playing hockey in mt. p we would play cheyboygan several times a year and it always seemed like there was a snow belt in gaylord, not much snow before, a shit ton afterwards
to me. From the time I was two in 1966 until the property was sold and the lodge and all the cabins destroyed, Glen Eden on beautiful, crystal clear Glen Lake was my "up North".
I have been to Hawaii, California, Florida and many points in between, but nothing on this earth compares to the beauty of Glen Lake in the summertime.
I learned as a small child that Clare was the "gateway to Up North", but I never feel like I'm getting there until I pass Cadillac on 115 going North.
On the eastern side of the state, I'd call Grayling Up North.
I spent the first 13 summers of my life at Glen Eden until it was sold. We now head over to Arcadia.
North of Clare is Up North to me.
I know I'm officially 'Up North' when I can walk into one store and buy pasties, smoked fish, and porn.
I grew up in Houghton Lake and I always considered Clare and above "Up North." Unless you live there in which case anything above you is now "Up North"
the side of the road when someone says"I have to piss".
growing up in the ann arbor area and never getting to the cross the zilwaukee bridge (we took 96 to 127 north) id give 'up north' the old porn definition: i know it when i see it. That being said, i am headed to Glen Arbor this weekend and am incredibly excited.
I am from Traverse City and now live in Grand Rapids but since i have lived here i have considered TC to be up north. TC is a great place to be in the summer.
On the Ann Arbor-to-cabin run (Garden Peninsula) I usually started feeling it just past West Branch. On Memorial Day weekend, though, if you aren't there by now you are fucked.
But if you want to consider north of Cadilac up north, I could live with it.
You guys just caused me to Google "Zilwaukee Bridge". There's 10 seconds of my life I wouldn't mind having back.
But, on the upside, in that area, there is a township known as Frankenlust. That sounds like one fuck of a place to be from. Word.
North of M-72. Can't wait to go up north this weekend!!!
Because that's where I am for a weekend of work right now, and a lot of the mountain tops still have snow on them.
Could be worse. The other owner and the guy who got me this job went to San Jose this weekend, and Donnor's Pass is still totally covered with snow. That is well south of Boise, and even Michigan.
As far as Michigan goes, I'd say by the time you get past Flint, you're getting "Up North" by most standards. Personally though, I don't REALLY feel that way until I get to around Petoskey or Traverse City, or most epsecially after you get to Mackinaw. SAY YA TO DA UP, EH?
If you're in Boise, McCall is up north.
As a yooper I always defined the bridge to be the "Up North" line, but after a few years at U-M this has become too inconvenient (I would get excited when people said they were from Northern Michigan and meant Bay City or Gaylord) so in my mind "Northern Michigan" is Bay City to the Bridge, and everything north of that is God's Country.
being from the Saginaw area, I always considered north of US-10 (north of Clare) to be up-northish but close enough for a day trip, while I consider North of M-55 (Tawas to West Branch to Cadillac) truly up-north. Whoever said north of Flint is up-north needs to be slapped. if you have ever been 30 miles north of there, Saginaw County is either farmland or gangs.
we had a family cabin that backed up to the southwest side of Huron National Forest. We always said we were going "up north" when we went there. So I'll take Huron National and anything on that latitude.
It was always across the bridge. Usually St. Ignace, which is a beautiful town.
In my home community of Standish, where M-13 and US 23 split, the demarcation line was Worth road. This is now home of a casino, so has some noriety now.
it was amazing how everything North of there, had that feeling (my hometown) of that country, while everything below, Pinconning Kawkawlin and Bay City had some of the city constructs of industry.
Thus I believe anyone who said Sterling, West Branch or Standish is dead on. While Bay City is the biggest town on the South side of "Up North"
is when you are officially up north
I live in the Metro Detroit area and spend many summer holidays traveling to Ludington. I've always considered it "Up North." I agree that anything North of Mt. Pleasant seems reasonable. I guess it depends on where you live.
Coming from Metro Detroit:
Once you cross the Zilwaukee Bridge, you officially enter "Up North"
If you go north or west of our capitol city, you too are "up north."
As a public service announcement, if you go south of Detroit, you are NOT "up north."
Secord Lake because thats where the cabin is.
I know people who call Gerogia "up north."
In Michigan, though, I consider anything north of I-96 to be "Southern Canada;" eh?
As a yooper, when I'm calling something "up north", I'm usually referring to Houghton.
Come on guys. Let's be honest now, if you've lived in Michigan long enough, anywhere in-state that you vacation to is "Up North".
The current cabin is almost dead West of here, but I still sometimes say "up north".
Burt Lake is Up North. Everything else is just riding its coattials.
Seriously, I think first you have to be beyond the 45th parallel, then you're Up North.
And what happens above the 45th parallel, stays above the 45th parallel.
We used to have a cottage in Pentwater, and we considered that up north. Same with Big Star Lake, in Baldwin. Definitely Up North.
I grew up in a small town called White Cloud, about an hour north of Grand Rapids. Our welcome city sign read "Where the North begins and pure waters flow". So growing up I always thought thats where it started. Now that I live in Cincinnati its pretty much anything in Michigan....or God's country, whichever you prefer to call it.
North or Cadillac on 131.
Anything north of Copper Harbor.