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OT: What is really considered "Up North?"

Being that the Memorial Day weekend is almost upon us, I've always wondered what most people truly consider "Up North."

Is it just absolutely over the bridge or anything north of, say, Flint? I've always thought that if you draw a line across the state parallel to the tip of the thumb maybe that would be a good cutoff point. Thoughts? 

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May 26th, 2010 at 9:41 PM | If you go past Bay City on (Score:1)
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If you go past Bay City on I-75, you are officially Up North.

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May 26th, 2010 at 11:32 PM | Agreed.  Bay City is (Score:1)
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Agreed.  Bay City is Michigan's Mason-Dixon Line.

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May 27th, 2010 at 12:58 AM | Only on the East side. I'd (Score:1)
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Only on the East side.

I'd add Mt.Pleasant as the central divider, and Big Rapids as the divider for the west side of the state.

I might go as far north as Clare and Reed City, and use US-10 as the dividing line.

 

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May 27th, 2010 at 8:18 AM | Mt. Pleasant is a worthy (Score:1)
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Mt. Pleasant is a worthy dividing line, though I consider it an Up North town.  A trip to Mt. Pleasant feels like a trip Up North - mine involved casino, golf, and the county fairgrounds one county over to hang out with Michigan's rednecks and see a Styx concert.

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May 27th, 2010 at 10:39 AM | what the hell are you guys talking about? (Score:1)
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bay city and mt pleasant are on the same latitude

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Mt+Pleasant,+Mount+Plea...

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May 27th, 2010 at 3:49 PM |   Sure.  But, growing up (Score:1)
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Sure.  But, growing up on the west side of the state, I never drove through Bay City and thought to myself, "now I'm up north."  For me, that happened when I passed Big Rapids or Reed City, on US-131, Bay City's rough equivalents for West Michigan.

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May 27th, 2010 at 10:11 AM | I grew up in Bay City and (Score:1)
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I grew up in Bay City and graduated college in Mt Pleasant (CMU) and they are pretty much straight east and west from each other.  As for a North/South divider, I completely agree... although I don't consider Mt P or Bay City to be "Up North," but anything past these cities qualifies.

You can actually find Pasties in the northern part of Bay City... on the west side for those familiar...

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May 27th, 2010 at 12:39 PM | but they're all about the (Score:1)
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but they're all about the same latitude.  its that region that is the cut off.

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May 27th, 2010 at 1:35 PM | Except that I consider Mount (Score:1)
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Except that I consider Mount Pleasant an "Up North" town, but Bay City as the northernmost extension of southeastern Michigan where all the people are.

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May 27th, 2010 at 8:44 AM | I grew up in Michigan and my (Score:1)
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I grew up in Michigan and my friends and I always drew a circle around the Detroit area as a divider between Michigan and Detroit. That was the only way we "split" Michigan, we figured we were all up north already.

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May 26th, 2010 at 9:42 PM | ask anyone in florida and (Score:1)
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ask anyone in florida and they'll say any place that has snow...

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May 26th, 2010 at 9:49 PM | Nobody who puts a woolly hat (Score:1)
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Nobody who puts a woolly hat on in 55-degree weather is qualified to determine what is Up North and what isn't.

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:13 PM | I totally agree with that. (Score:1)
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I totally agree with that. I'm currently living in Nashville and the office I work in had the AC running full force today (meaning the office was roughly 70).  There were at least 3 people wrapped up in their coats and sitting on their hands complaining about the "cold".

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May 26th, 2010 at 9:47 PM | I vote for north of Flint, (Score:1)
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I vote for north of Flint, Lansing, and Muskegon--depending on the road. That said, I'm in Southern California; I think L.A. is "up north."

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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May 27th, 2010 at 1:00 AM | Living in LA, I think of the (Score:1)
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Living in LA, I think of the Valley as northish, and anything north of that as NorCal, which is the Californian equivalent of Up North.

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May 27th, 2010 at 8:11 AM | In San Fran (Score:1)
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Here some people consider Sonoma/Napa wine country north, or Mendocino.

 

To me it is Redding.

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May 26th, 2010 at 9:48 PM | my grandparents lived in saginaw (Score:1)
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so that was the northern-most place i was familiar with. i got used to calling anything north of the majestic Zilwaukee Bridge "up north"

Trust me, I'm a scientist.

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:34 PM | Co-signed (Score:1)
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Living in the Metro Detroit area (though I was raised in the Lansing area) I always consider "Up North" to be anything past the Zilwaukee Bridge, though I will admit that some may consider it a little too far south to be really "Up North". Still, by the time I'm in Standish or West Branch, I've crossed a threshold.

Then, there are Da Yoopers who regard anyone south of the Mackinac Bridge to be a "Lowper" or a "Troll'. Its definitely a matter of perspective.

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:47 PM | Up north (Score:1)
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My grandma always used to say when the trees were between north and south of 75 that we were up north. I'd say that or the Ziluake Bridge are "up north"

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May 27th, 2010 at 8:50 AM | I am TERRIFIED of that (Score:1)
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I am TERRIFIED of that bridge... I freak out driving over it.

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May 27th, 2010 at 10:27 AM | I remember going to Higgins Lake (Score:1)
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I remember going to Higgins Lake from A2 when the Zilwaukee brige was a draw bridge. There used to be some massive backups when the bridge opened for a freighter.  

When I was little I used to think Whitmore Lake was up north... "are we there yet?"

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May 27th, 2010 at 11:18 AM | On a bit of a tangent (Score:1)
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I've always had a hard time saying "Zilwaukee Bridge" with a straight face.  Somehow that name is very funny to say.

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May 26th, 2010 at 9:55 PM | Birch trees (Score:1)
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are the key for me.

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May 26th, 2010 at 9:57 PM | I've always considered Clare (Score:1)
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I've always considered Clare the beginning of the North.  The Zilwaukee Bridge works too.

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:05 PM | I'd agree on Clare (Score:1)
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Midland doesn't count as "Up North," though, so I'd vote against the Zilwaukee Bridge.

The 44th parallel works, but is a lot less practical.

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:13 PM | I've always considered it to (Score:1)
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I've always considered it to be north of the 45th parallel, personally.  Once you've gone above the 45th there really aren't many people who would argue that you're not "up north".  Almost everywhere south of there and you seem to find decently large pockets of resistance.

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May 27th, 2010 at 8:38 AM | Going up north as a child (Score:1)
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My dad and brother and I would always salute the 45th parallel sign on I-75 as we passed it as we were officially entering "up north".

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:04 PM | boundaries (Score:1)
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Restricting myself to big roads (and risking overlap with other comments), I'd say anything north of:

* Sterling on I-75 (It becomes more woodsy around there, I think.)

* Clare on 127 (This is more true if you go west on 10; on 127 I think you need to reach Harrison.)

* Whitehall on 31 and whatever is at the same latitude on 131 (I think "north" is much farther south in the western part of the state.)

In general, I'd say that "up north" begins where the density of farming gets noticeably below its peak in the southern part of the state.  (I'm not counting the orchards around Traverse City.)

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:33 PM | This Yooper agrees (Score:1)
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I live near Ann Arbor now, but I am from the Soo, and these geographic points feel right to me.  On I-75, it is where US-23 heads off to Tawas.  I think you're right on farming, but I also look for birch trees.

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:19 PM | False.  Four hours south of (Score:1)
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False.  Four hours south of Detroit, and you're in Kentucky, which is officially Down South.  There's no way that driving four hours the other way doesn't get you Up North.

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:51 PM | "and you're in Kentucky, (Score:1)
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"and you're in Kentucky, which is officially Down South"

That's debatable depending where in the south you are.  I live in the Deep South and people here don't consider it "down south" until you get to the Deep South.

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May 27th, 2010 at 8:20 AM | Yeah, but I'll bet they like (Score:1)
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Yeah, but I'll bet they like to include Kentucky bball when bragging about the ESS-EEE-CEE superiority.

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May 27th, 2010 at 9:17 AM | I was actually surprised how (Score:1)
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I was actually surprised how few people cared about that here.

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May 27th, 2010 at 10:20 AM | You can tell that Kentucky is (Score:1)
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You can tell that Kentucky is considered Down South as soon as you hear someone from Kentucky say "kun-TUCK-eh" ... I don't know where, but there's an "R" in there somewhere too... 

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May 27th, 2010 at 1:15 PM | I live in Atlanta, GA (Score:1)
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Four hours south of Detroit, you're in Ohio.

I get your point though...  I am from North Detroit, so I consider anything north of Flint to be Up North.

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May 27th, 2010 at 2:22 PM | I used to live in Cincinnati, (Score:1)
WolvinLA2
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I used to live in Cincinnati, and I could get from my apt to campus in 3.5 hours.  That extra half an hour gets you to Northern Kentucky.  So unless you hit bad traffic or you drive like a _____ you should be in Kentucky in 4 hours. 

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:17 PM | up north (Score:1)
MichfaninWisc
Joined: 05/13/2010
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up north for me is whenever i reach escanaba michigan!!  up der in da yooper land!

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:37 PM | And this from a guy (Score:1)
Njia
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Living in Wisconsin, dontcha know.

"If life is the road, then Ohio is simply a place to stop for gas." -- Scott Burgess, Detroit News, 9/16/2010
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May 26th, 2010 at 11:27 PM | Wisconsin... (Score:1)
wolpherine2000
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Joined: 07/10/2009
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...is a heckuva place.

As a matter of fact I like beer.

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May 27th, 2010 at 8:35 AM | Czechoslovakia (Score:1)
Maize and Blue in OH
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It's like going into Wisconsin.

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:17 PM | Being from the saginaw area, (Score:1)
Keeeeurt
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Joined: 09/04/2009
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Being from the saginaw area, I have to say anything north of gayling is "up north"

Me fail english thats unpossible!

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:19 PM | Coming from southwest Michigan (Score:1)
RockyMtnWolverine
Joined: 09/15/2009
MGoPoints: 135

I would say Ludington and north is "Up North".  Or you could go by this metric: If you can see the Milky Way on a clear night, you're probably "Up North". 

Support your local brewery!

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:23 PM | relative |ˈrelətiv|adjective1 (Score:1)
blueblueblue
Joined: 12/29/2008
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relative |ˈrelətiv|adjective1 considered in relation or in proportion to something else : the relative effectiveness of the various mechanisms is not known.• existing or possessing a specified characteristic only in comparison to something else; not absolute : she went down the steps into the relative darkness of the dining room | the companies are relative newcomers to computers.2 Grammar denoting a pronoun, determiner, or adverb that refers to an expressed or implied antecedent and attaches a subordinate clause to it, e.g., which, who.• (of a clause) attached to an antecedent by a relative word.3 Music (of major and minor keys) having the same key signature.4 (of a service rank) corresponding in grade to another in a different service.

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:24 PM | It really doesn't matter the (Score:1)
A_Maize_Zing
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It really doesn't matter the geographical location.  I firmly believe that anywhere in the world where McDonalds in the hang out for high school kids on Friday night is officially up north.

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:35 PM | So, um, everywhere is up (Score:1)
BlueVoix
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So, um, everywhere is up north then?

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May 26th, 2010 at 10:50 PM | I dare you to hangout at a (Score:1)
A_Maize_Zing
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I dare you to hangout at a Flint, MI McDonalds on Friday Night looking for High School Kids.

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May 26th, 2010 at 11:46 PM | Valid, just saying that being (Score:1)
BlueVoix
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Valid, just saying that being bored and hanging out at a McDonalds/Starbucks/local fast food establishment knows no geographic area. It is the very essence of being a teenager.

Now if we were talking about the rural areas and you said Walmart, I'd be in total agreement with you.

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May 27th, 2010 at 12:10 AM | You may be right.  Walmart (Score:1)
A_Maize_Zing
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You may be right.  Walmart could hold the key to the up north dilema.

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May 27th, 2010 at 12:39 AM | I always preferred Meijer (Score:1)
Keeeeurt
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MGoPoints: 3645

I always preferred Meijer over Wal-Mart

Me fail english thats unpossible!

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May 27th, 2010 at 1:52 AM | Co-signed, Meijer is (Score:1)
duffman is thru...
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Joined: 05/20/2010
MGoPoints: 998

Co-signed, Meijer is definitely the pinnacle of shopping super centers in this state. 

"We alway's did feel the same, we just saw it from a different point of view"

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