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OT - What is going to happen in the Breaking Bad finale?
...but only after driving his car head on into one of greatest hurricanes New Mexico has ever seen.
God that was the worst ending of a show ever.
There is no way Walt makes it out alive. I believe Jesse will though. I started to think at the end of the last episode was that Walt plans to use the Ricin on himself, but I never really took him for the suicide type. But now after your post I'm curious whether Marie may be the one that kills Walt. Todd and his uncle's gang are goners
But in Ep1, he tried to shoot himself after gassing Emilio and Krazy-8. Safety was on, but he pulled the trigger. It shows that when he can't come to terms with all the bad he's done, that's his way out.
I think Jesse is simply going to find Walt lying dead in bed one morning from the lung cancer, and everyone is going to go "WTF!?! SEINFELD!"
I don't think he would ricin himself. Slowly dying with flu like symptoms is a lot more painful than a gun to the head. I think he's going to take that big gun in his trunk to try to take down the nazi's, which will basically be suicide.
The final shot being Jesse, with newly-adopted son, Brock, in a beautiful beach house somewhere in the tropics, looking out over the ocean...the camera pans to a back room, and we can see that Jesse is in possession of all of the money barrels.
But yeah...we're probably not gonna get that.
As far as what I think will happen? I'm really not sure now. What is Walt's M-60 for? Todd's uncle and crew? Or Jesse? And how will the ricin (which we saw Walt retrieve earlier from the ruin that was once his home) play into all this?
I'm really going to miss this show once it's gone. I think it's safe to say that this is a prediction that has 100% accuracy.
My perfect ending:
Walt attempts to kill the nazis but is killed after getting only a few. Jesse remains unfreed, cooking meth to keep the kid safe. The White family (probably not named that anymore) hears reports that high grade blue meth is still surfacing for years down the road. They never have closure on Walt. They wonder if he has forgotten about them for all these years, but in reality, Jesse has slaved away for years to try to keep the nazis content.
That would be an appropriate ending. Drug Lord Icarus. Jesse and Walt's ambitions get the best of them. Walt ends up dead to his family, before being killed. Jesse is a prisoner in a crueler place then a prison. And it's all for nothing.
Agreed--this would be perfect.
To add onto my theory, Jesse and Todd are representations of Walt. Jesse is Walt, the talent and the kindness towards his fellow humans. Todd is Heisenberg. The ruthless, calculating, uncaring sub-human pitbull. It's fitting the Todd is holding Jesse captive. Does Walt succeed in eliminating Todd, in a way freeing himself from Heisenberg? I say no, the series is too grim.
killed Gale, and for that he certainly has some devine, moral retribution coming, no doubt. But Gale was a drug dealer, same as Jesse, same as Walt, same as Gus. Gale put himself in harms way, not saying his death was justified, only that I think Jesse has sufficiently paid for that transgression at this point. I believe Jesse can be partially redeemed, and I don't think he will die, though it is hard to imagine him not wanting to.
That's where the ricin is headed. Machine gun is for the Nazis.
Nope. Vice-versa. I don't know how or why, but I know Vince Gilligan is a genius.
No way Walt gets in easy to Grey Matter, as he'd have to for the ricin to work ("sure Walt, let's have tea"), so guns-a-blazin' makes sense.
The converse is true with Jack's gang. They can match Walt's firepower so why not a ricin laden pow-pow with them?
Isn't Walt dead one way or the other? I'm of the opinion he does a lot of knocking this episode and the body count is very very high. The last part of the previous episode implies the Walter White is already gone and only Heisenberg is left.... and I don't think Heisenberg is too keen on people ripping off his money and his formula.
Holly ends up being a baby genius and picks up where her father left off. Skyler remains oblivious, obviously.
I'm still rooting for Walt to have a good ending even though he has done some horrible stuff. The end of the last episode gave me chills with the music playing in the background.
But I want him to survive. A movie maybe? Doubt it but I can dream
Kinda cool. And more than just a little sad, too.
Vince Gilligan re-introduced Grey Matter into the story after hearing from a young fan, dying of cancer, who suggested that it would be nice to have some closure as to this part of the story. Vince worked it in -- in no small way -- as was seen at the end of the last episode, and will surely be seen in the finale.
Vince offered to reveal the ending of the series to this fan a while back, and he declined, saying that he was going to live long enough to watch it for himself. Sadly, he passed away just a short time ago.
Death and meth.
Although it is entirely possible that I could get overruled on this, I am willing to keep this one here. There's a large enough fanbase for it on the blog, and given the the last few days, it might actually be therapeutic for some folks to discuss something like "Breaking Bad". Somebody discuss something....anything.
Bye week as well. There are likely as many BB fans on here as Lions or Tigers fans, though Detroit sports are quasi topical in the rulebook. I'm the type that would like OT posts that have the gravity of this (albeit only to a certain set) allowed during the season.
The last episode is titled "Felina."
Fe - Iron
Li - Lithium
Na - Sodium
What does this mean? I don't have the first f'ing clue.
Blood, nuclear warfare, and tears.
Actually I'm not too sure what lithium represents.
Then we might get a guest appearance from 'ol number 16.
someone said it was blood meth and tears. The lithium had something to do with meth.
I fully expect to see all three of those things. So hey -- a normal episode.
Vince has a way with finding things that can be taken multiple ways. You go the chemistry route, it could also mean:
There is also the old song "El Paso," written and recorded by Marty Robbins, which has a character in it named "Feelena" -- I know, spelled differently -- but the lyrics involve a shootout and a gunslinger dying in Feelena's arms (Feelena being his lover).
The shooter, incidentally, feeling remorse for what he has done, flees to the badlands of New Mexico to hide out.
I'm positive that this is at least partially the reference. I'd even bet the song makes an appearance in the soundtrack, like in the episode "Caballo sin Nombre." You forgot the most relevant part of the song's narrative, though: after hiding out in New Mexico for a while the narrator irrationally returns to El Paso to see Felina even though he knows it's suicidal.
Also, I think the alternate spelling isn't relevant: as best I can tell the spelling "feleena" comes from the title of a different Marty Robins song, not the lyrics to El Paso. The Spanish name would obviously be spelled "Felina"
One theory I read was that Iron is associated with blood, lithium is the primary metal used in meth manufacturing, and sodium is associated with tears. So "Blood, Meth, and Tears"
Gilligan said it just means "Finale" when he gave the tease on talking bad last week
leaves Todd for Jesse. Walt then poisons the 'founders' of his company after buying all it's stock in the name of his wife/kids.
Walt succumbs to cancer.
I like this idea, and it would be more fitting to use the ricin on Elliott and Gretchen than anyone (except Jesse). The only problem - Grey Matter has a market cap of 2.16 billion...
I like this idea, too. I somehow think there will be a connection (either revealed as already exisitng or to be created in the finale) between Madrigal and Grey Matter. Gretchen mentioned that they were speaking out about Walt to ease investor concerns about a dip in the Grey Matter stock price -- maybe Madrigal swoops in and buys the entire company or Walt buys a controlling interest. I have no idea how this works into the broader plot, but I have a feeling something like this will come up.
Nazis to kill grey matters people and give them the rest of his dough to save Jessie, nazis survive, family survives, and the ending scene is him and Jessie cooking somewhere no one knows.
Walt's had months in seclusion to reflect about his treatment of Jesse- upon hearing about the blue meth, he puts the pieces together and realizes Todd's gang has enslaved him
So Walt goes and has a Scarface moment with the band of nazis as an olive branch to Jesse, as well as settling a personal score...afterward, Jesse rejects the olive branch, shoots Walt (and maybe himself? for Jesse, that might be the only 'happy' ending- and Brock gets orphaned, eats more Fruit Loops, whatever)
Lydia gets the ricin in her tea, since she's a threat to Skyler & Holly
PS i'd read a theory about Badger's story that's entertaining:
so Lydia distracts Todd, whose already established casual shooting style winds up killing Uncle Jack?
The machine gun is definitely for the Nazi's. I belive Walt kills them all and in doing so discovers Jesse and simply lets him go. I believe the ricin is for Lydia (they make it a point to show how much sugar she uses with her tea). Lastly and this one is more of a stretch, I think Walt is somehow able to extort money from Grey Matter and give it to his family before he ultimately sucombs to his cancer.
I like the idea of Walt finding a way to extort money out of Grey Matter. It's likely the only means he has left to get money to his family. There could be potential there for blackmail.
In the last episode, during the shot of Walt coughing at the feet of Sal, the camera seems to go out of its way to frame Walt within an unfinished stud wall filled with PINK insulation. Given all the Checkhov's gun thingies and color code references used in the show, it could be that Grey Matter made part of its fortune on a chemical compound that goes into insulation, knowing all the while that their product causes cancer, likely even the source of Walt's lung cancer.
Also, this could all be false, but Walt would certainly be willing to make up such a story...kinda like the confessional he made for Hank and Marie.
Nice pick up on the sugar/ricin idea. You never know with these series finales, but you may be on to something.
After offing the Nazi gang, Walt gets bit in the neck by a mosquito carrying the blood of a rabid pig, and becomes the first zombie that leads to the apocalypse preceding Walking Dead, and a new Walking Dead series is spawned revolving around Walt going around eating rats and people and eventually having a final confrontation with the Walking Dead survivors.
You must be an AMC executive...
NyTimes has an article that Vince's next project after BB will be called Battle Creek and based in, you guesses it, Cereal City. No idea why.
South Park parodies Breaking Bad next week.
I think Walt visits his partner from Grey Matter, because he wants people to know it wasn't just the company name he contributed to. I don't know if the huge gun in the trunk is for Grey Matter or the Nazis. Does Walt care about avenging Hank's death anymore? Walt essentially turned himself in before getting reincentivized by the Grey Matter thing. He knows his family hates him.
The ricin... I could see him using it in a way that isnt revealed to us until later.
Marie won't be able to do much while she's in protective custody. I guess she may no longer be in protective custody since at least 4-6 weeks have passed while Walt was in the cabin. Marie still loves Skyler and the kids. If she does get an opportunity to kill Walt she would do it.
Jesse has been slaving away for the entire time Walt is in the cabin. Maybe Walt seeing his blue stuff on the market makes it obvious Jesse is cooking it. Walt might think that is fitting for Jesse and leave it alone. Jesse knows the Nazis will kill Brock if he tries to escape, so the only way he gets out is suicide, or someone else rescuing him. Maybe the Feds find it? It would be great to see Jesse get himself out with Chemistry ... like how they gassed the two guys in the RV in season 1 or how they killed the guys down in Mexico. If Jesse has an opportunity to kill Walt, he kills Walt.
Fe - Iron (Blood)
Li - Lithium (Meth)
Na - Sodium (Tears)
I would end the series by showing that home video clip shot during Holly's baby shower where Walt sincerely tells Holly that her family loves her.
Walt will use the Machine Guns to kill the Nazis (except Todd who Jesse will kill), free Jesse who will save the kid, and give Jesse one of the barrels the Nazis took to live off of for the rest of his life. Walt will kill the Gray Matter people with Ricin and explain how he built that just like he built his meth empire while he watches them slowly die. Then he will try to meet up with his wife and kids but just ends up watching them creeply and leaving them the money before he walks away without contacting them. Show ends with him putting on his Heizenberg hat and walking into a sunset
That's the best case scenario. I hope you aren't expecting BB to give you the best case scenario. To put it in a metaphor, UTL is off the table. Your choices are App State, Toledo, or Akron. Your pick.
Oh I know there is about a zero percent chance this happens. Except for maybe the ricin on the old business people. I honestly think Walt might kill skyler and take the baby.
Also Akron...we at least won
Walt takes the machine gun and goes after the nazis. Walt dies, Nazis die, Lydia dies, Jesse dies. Todd LIVES!
Imagine Todd surveying the carnage - walt, jesse, etc... all shot to hell. Expressionless Todd looks around, picks up a bag of money and walks away. Roll credits.
All of the innocents are presumed to have lived (Skylar, etc...).
I'm not looking at the rest of the posts because I haven't seen any of the last 7 episodes yet, but I can say without a doubt: Zombie Apocalypse.
Walt wakes up in bed next to Suzanne Pleshette and realizes it's all just been a dream.
Tim Whatley wakes up in his dentist chair and promises to stop abusing the novocane.
reference. +1 if that was still a thing.
Good. So now everyone can start talking about something else.
Great input. Appreciate your contribution.
Yeah because there are so many better things to talk about than the greatest TV show of all time... Great input.
Perhaps you've seen The Departed one too many times
Blood, there will be blood
I have this weird inclination that something really messed up is going to happen between Todd & Lydia. The scene with them in the coffee shop struck me as really creepy.
eh, pretty much every scene with todd in it is really creepy
Oh, come on. Haven't you watched Friday Night Lights? Todd's a gentleman and a sweetheart. Always has, always will be.
I would like to see their storyline expand, but unfortunately there is just a 75 minute episode left in the entire series that I don't think there will be much air time involving their relationship other than Walt (most likely) trying to take them down.
I like the one suggestion I heard. Walt enters the witness protection program and ends up being Hal from Malcom in the Middle.
I bet Walt Jr is pissed off and eats breakfast at some point in the episode.
I havent watched an episode but im DVRing the finale so I can join in the conversation Monday/Tuesday.
I don't gush over much TV, but Breaking Bad is really good. If you were ever going to buy a DVD box set or get Netflix just for one show, do it for this show. Don't watch the Finale. Watch the whole show.
Heisenberg died from cancer.
Ideally this involves Walt starting to run his usual line of BS about not intending for this to happen and then Jesse calling him a bitch and shooting him in the gut so he can die slowly. As you can tell I am not on team Walt.
This is how I see it. Ricin is for his old friends that bashed him on tv. Walt kills the skin heads and Jesse dies in the crossfire. Walt takes the money back to his family and Marie kills him. The end!
Walt gets banhammered. Jesse starts a somewhat confusing revolutionary thread in response.
Not sure how it will all happen, but I say Jesse takes out Walt. Chemistry is about transformation, and having the once spineless, anti-hero junkie finally rise to the occasion against the once mild mannered teacher turned well-intended but delusional monster would be the ultimate example of that.
That said, I have no idea what to expect Sunday night, but I can't wait.
No matter what else happens wrt who kills whom and how, the final shot of the series will be some time later once the family's out of (protective) custody, where Junior's at a party and someone offers him blue meth... and he takes it.
What makes you think finding out your dad was a meth kingpin who murdered your uncle and many others would lead to substance abuse down the line? I suppose witnessing the knife fight between your parents that ended with your father kidnapping your baby sister would be a little traumatic but you can always overcome adversity. I’d say Walt Jr. has at least a 2% chance of becoming a successful well adjusted adult in the future. Sure the family is destitute but pancakes are cheap.
I know it's crazy but I think that Walt saves Jessie from the Nazis, but dies in doing so. Jessie recovers some of the stolen money and gives some of it to Walt's family. Jesse adopts Brock.
Walt wakes up. It was all a crazy dream, and he never even had cancer. It makes him remember his former student Jesse and want to help him. They invite him over, Hank explains the dangers of being a pothead, Jesse understands and agrees, and they all go out for some delicious Los Pollos Hermanos. They adopt a cat, and name it Heisenberg.
Marie will end up killing Walt. His new name is "mr lambert" and Lambert is also Maries maiden name. Little bit of foreshadowing there and Marie has the motive to kill him believing Walk killed Hank
M60 is for the Nazis. The ricin is for Lydia's tea she is always drinking. Jesse lives and adopts Brock. They all somehow manage to get a share of the money when Walt dies because Walt is smarter than Mike and will figure out a way to get the money past the FBI monitoring the family.
Agree with Walt killing the Nazi's - not entirely sure what will happen between Jesse/Walt.
What I think would be cool is if somehow we see a clip of Kaylee Ehrmantraut (Mike's granddaughter) getting some of the money. She hasn't been discussed and is the epitome of innocence on the show.
I think I've got it: The last episode's title is 'Felina.' This rhymes with 'Melina', the character from Total Recall. The actress who played Melina is Rachel Ticotin. Rearrange the letters of her name and get: 'Ricin Cat Hotel.' So...yeah, it's pretty obvious what's going to happen. Sorry Vince Gilligan, but it was almost too easy...
I think it ends with Saul running a Cinnabon and hitting on the customers.
Employees, but yes. Perfect final scene.
I expect not all the current "bad guys" (Todd, Nazis, Lydia) will die.
I think the machine gun is for Walt killing the Nazis and getting his money. I doubt it, but I'd love for him to use that money to buy Grey Matter controlling stocks, although he would only have about $80 million which is not enough for a controlling share.
I think the ricin is likely for the Lydia's tea just because of the emphasis they have put on her tea and sweetner. However, I could see it being for Grey Matter as well - would enjoy seeing that unfold.
Saul recommended Walt turn himself in. If he doesn't die, I wouldn't be too surprised to see him turn himself in, take the ricin so that he doesn't have to go through the system, etc. He would die, and they would assume it was his cancer. Skylar would then be off the hook and it would be easier for him to get money to his family. I think this is possible - though no one has suggested it. Am I crazy?
Jesse? Would love chemistry explosion to be involved, but rather I think Walt lets him go. But not before taking the ricin in front of him, explaining his plan, giving 1/2 the money to Jesse, but just asking Jesse not to kill him before he can turn himself in. Mabye in a controlling manner involving a slow-acidic chemistry-solution that would eat through his chains but not before Walt could exit and get on with his plan.
Yes, I realize I hypothesized that the ricin was for Lydia, Grey Matter, and Walt. It's TV, anything is possible.
Lydia's tea. I don't know if Walt goes after the Nazis or not, he seems more angry with the Grey Matter people for dissing him. No one kills Walt. His punishment is that he lost his family. Jesse somehow survives.
I don't know what'll happen, but I'm still holding out hope that the only two left alive in the end are Walt Jr. and Holly. After stumbling upon his father's recipe for meth (I have no idea how, just go with it) and realizing that he needs to take care of his little sister, Walt Jr. then starts cooking meth to support their small family, only to become the biggest drug lord in the southwest.
I like the idea of Todd being the only survivor. Only bad people win these things in real life.
I don't know what's going to happen... I try not to think about it too much and just enjoy the ride.
All I know, is I want Walt to get his comeuppance. I don't know if that's going to happen aside from the inevitable cancer. I guess there's the argument that he's already lost his family and, thus, lost what he cared about. Meaning the finale isn't about Walter White, but rather Heisenberg. I dunno, I'm talking in circles. I just want anybody who is still cheering for Walt to be soul-dong kicked so hard.
I could also see the final episode mirroring the episode where Walt obsesses over killing the fly in the meth lab. In the end, it is Jesse who risks his life in order to kill the fly (Todd?), while Walt lies there exhausted/dying. When Jesse finally finished the job, one he never actually believed was necessary, he looks for Walt's approval, but he's already gone. Jesse end up dragging him off to his, in this case final, resting place.
Not sure if Jesse cares enough about Walt to fight for him anymore, but things seem to turn quickly in this show. That episode always stood out as being a little extra weird to me...