OT: Western Conference Semis: Wings vs. Sharks Game 2
FUCK YOU. ALL CAPS=RAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
what a complete fucking joke
THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
holy shit a call on them
for that make-up call
You're kidding me - that wasn't a tripping call on Howard?
screaming with indignity about the call? SRSLY!?!? the refs have served you 2 games on a platter, STFU!!!!!!!!
Who else is watching on Justin.tv? Last game i watched on there was Michigan-Miami, this looks exactly the same! Refs are fucking awful
fucking announcers - "the ice crimes have been questionable tonight"
yeah, only when the sharks get penalized.
fuck you, i hate you and i hope you choke on a bag of dicks.
You know, everyone likes to jump on certain players (i.e. Crosby) for whining. Yet, every single game day thread is littered with "OMG REFS SCREWED US!!! CONSPIRACY!!!"
Every team feels that they're getting screwed. Sometimes, the refs make mistakes. Personally, I'd like to see them be held more accountable. But lets stop pretending that Gary Bettman is picking and choosing teams he wants to win. And in that regard, why would he want the Sharks who have a measly following instead of the Red Wings who can draw viewers coast to coast?
You're really Gary Bettman, and you're just trying to deflect suspicion. I'm on to you...
THIS GUY'S A PHONY!!!
/Adjusts tin foil hat
BH 500?
if we lose, it's still the sharks and they'll probably find some hilarious way to lose the series
This shit is over.
Wow...just wow
When was the last time the Wings came back down 0-2?
Vancouver, '02?
to lead the charge again. that was one of the greatest performances I have seen as a fan.
Fuck this shit in its fucking face let's see what fucking happens when we don't have 9850198 less PP opportunities.
note to self buy vaseline
for wasting 3hrs of my life. what a shame too, great sport ruined by complete officiating ineptitude.
Rationalizing is fun! If we win, then the refs did an adequate job...maybe made a few mistakes, but nothing major. If we lose, the refs screwed us. There were calls against the Sharks that had me scratching my head too (i.e. goalie intereference at the end of the game when he as crosscheck by a red wings player into Howard). The Sharks capitalized, the Red Wings didn't.
Did you watch the right game?
Yeah I watched the game. There were bad calls. I wish the refs were held more accountable. I said that previously in this thread. But over a 7 game playoff series, things tend to even out. Don't pretend the Wings have never been the beneficiary of questionable calls.
The Wings need to play better. They're very professional and won't worry about the refs. They'll play their game, and hopefully capitalize on some chances. They're not going to whine, and while we're both probably frustrated, we should rein in the conspiracy mantra.
and go by the name of Troll?
Babcock after the game:
"The reality is that you can't have momentum if only half your players can get on the ice because they are sitting in the penalty box all night long," Babcock said.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=300502018
Despite what you seem to think there were an inordinate amount of calls go against us and yes, the team did take notice. I am not saying that there is any kind of conspiracy because I don't believe that. There were a lot of calls go against that were questionable and it made it tough to over come.
Do me a favor and tell me all of the calls that the Wings have benefitted from. There hasn't been one going back all the way through last year's Cup Finals. I'm still waiting for all of these terrible calls to "even out". Hell I'm waiting for a single fucking call to go our way. We have about fifteen whoppers coming our way for everything to even out. Starting with two goals that need to be waived off because of premature whistles. Add on top of that, getting six men on the ice for thirty seconds, a couple of badly blown offsides, and numerous dives leading to five-on-three situations. One of those five-on-threes should come when a Red Wings player cuts a Sharks player and the Sharks player gets a tripping call.
did you notice them? 5 on 3 in the third in back to back games?
If you're admitting that (a) the refs did a shitty job both ways, and (b) the Wings had way more calls go against them, why can't we make the leap to (c) the the refs' general shittiness put them in a terrible position vis-a-vis the Sharks?
Hockey is like any other game in that you have to outplay your opponents to win. You have to take advantage of opportunitites. Hockey is unlike any other game in that the officials call penalties that DIRECTLY lead to increased scoring chances. When the officiating is bad, or slanted one way, it fucking shows guy. There is no conspiracy involving Gary Bettman, or Sidney Crosby or any Red Wing hater. But if you honestly believe the Sharks victory tonight wasn't heavily influenced by poor officiating, then you're an asshole.
[End Mother Fucking Rant.]
co-sign.
All in all, I agree. But don't pretend the roles have never been reversed. I guess that's all I'm saying.
There have been games where the Wings get calls they don't deserve. But watching Playoff hockey, the most beautiful thing in sports IME, impeded by bad officiating is very disheartening when it's your team on the wrong end. Everyone cussing up this thread and acting silly is justified.
You're right.....I mean, come on guys. Remember the Cup Finals last year against Pittsburgh when we were getting every call? REMEMBER? AMIRITE?
That part where Pitt got to play nearly a full minute with too many men on the ice, at the end of which the ref just skated up to a Pitt player & motioned for him to go to the bench (instead of, you know, calling the damn penalty!) is one of the most memorable officiating moments of my life. Also, that's when I ordered my tinfoil hat.
I love how the legend of the too many men on the ice call continues to expand. The approximately twenty seconds that it was has now magically morphed into nearly a full minute. Now, that said, the fact that it wasn't called is inexcusable. I was merely commenting on how people tend to really over-exaggerate sometimes. I do agree with almost everyone here, though. The officiating this year has been AWFUL league-wide.
Even if the Wings pulled this game out, I'd still be angry with how one sided it was called. Of the 10 calls against the Wings, at LEAST 5 of them were dives by San Jose, in which the EXACT SAME FUCKING THINGS were not being called the other way. That was not playoff hockey. That was absolute trash. The Phoenix series was called evenly. This is just a complete joke.
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I mean, WTF???? That's one full f'ing period on the power play. These refs are a joke. The diving Sharks - they're worse than any team I've ever seen. They must be the only team in the NHL that doesn't have a player with a nut sack! Man up you friggin pansies and stop diving all over the ice!!! And I hope Babcock and the Wings players say what a joke this was and Illitch pays the fine. This is atrocious!!
While agree in part, the Wings have to adjust. they have to understand that cross checking a guy without the puck into the side of the net is going to result in a penalty. And hey, start diving, it works for the Sharks.
So do you guys think San Jose can go far in the World Cup? Their tryout tonight was pretty impressive.
San Jose vs. Brazil in the final, IMO.
I ll take brazil over San Jose in the final, San Jose trying to draw a penalty against Brazil will take a dive in their own box which the ref does not call because he has half a brain, which will lead to brazil scoring the wining goal in the 83rd minute.
I rarely complain about penalties in any sport.
However, tonight was a fucking abomination. You'd think the NHL would have reviewed some of the questionable moments from game 1 (for example, the dive on the penalty on Franzen). But it was EVEN WORSE tonight. There is no excuse for this.
The refs were bullied by the whiny fucking fanbase, the whiny fucking players, and the whiny fucking coaching staff of San Jose. At certain points, the Sharks weren't even playing the puck.. they were dropping their sticks, diving to the ice, falling during scrums, and OPENLY BEGGING for calls. This shit never used to fly in the NHL.
The NHL had better hear an earful about this, and the Wings had better get a fair shake at the Joe.
/rant
I gave Thorton a 4.5 on technique and 6.0 on style for his dive in third. We should get some olympic diving judges out there for game three.
LOUD NOISES
Is that San Jose can't win at the Joe. It's a mental block with them and if we don't get a huge edge in officiating at home, I say let a tiger loose on the ice to eat some zebras!
Funnily enough despite the ridiculously one sided officiating, the two very worst calls were both against the Sharks. The boarding call at the end of the first was an embarrassment and if it weren't for the Franzen getting two minutes for being high sticked incident from game one, the goalie interference call at the end would have been the worst call of the entire playoffs.