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OT. Weis E. Coyote doesn't let KU Seniors Practice

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/charlie-weis-practices-without-seniors-sunday-develop-younger-161615770--ncaaf.html

 

Sunday was Oct. 7, still a pretty early time in the college football season. Kansas has seven of its 12 games remaining.

Yet, coach Charlie Weis sent a pretty strong message that he is already concentrating on next season.

Weis announced on the Big 12 conference call that on Sunday, he practiced with only players who will be on next year's team:

Again, that happened on Oct. 7, with more than half of Kansas' games remaining. The Jayhawks aren't on a bye week. They play Oklahoma State this week, the kind of game that a team's seniors might need to prepare as much as possible for.

How can anyone hear this and assume anything other than Weis has already given up on this season? The seniors have to be wondering that. Weis said the seniors ran and lifted weights and didn't get the day off, but it'll be hard for them to take Weis seriously when he has used a day of practice, "to develop younger players for the future." Weis told the Kansas City Star he would have done the same thing had the Jayhawks been 4-1 instead of 1-4, but it's very difficult to buy that. Oklahoma State likely isn't doing that this week.
 

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:05 PM | It sounds like a motivational (Score:5 Normal)
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It sounds like a motivational tactic by Weis, and also sounds like it's probably going to backfire on him.

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:11 PM | Right (Score:5 Normal)
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If you want to lose control of your looker room and create dissension among the ranks, this would be a good way to do so. Methinks he won't be in Lawrence too much longer.

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October 8th, 2012 at 7:28 PM | At least he didn't ride onto (Score:5 Normal)
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At least he didn't ride onto the practice field on a Harley and tell the media that the bar is high.

 

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October 8th, 2012 at 10:01 PM | tell the media that the bar is high. (Score:5 Normal)
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What Millen meant to say was that he was getting high at the bar. Being high, he fucked it up.


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October 8th, 2012 at 8:00 PM | Weis E Coyote (Score:5 Normal)
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October 8th, 2012 at 8:23 PM | this is excellent (Score:2 Normal)
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this is excellent

ATTN NBA Dads and Siblings: Have brothers / sons on the hoops come-up? 

Michigan = NBA Family U

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October 8th, 2012 at 10:49 PM | Strong Work (Score:1 Normal)
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A picture is worth a thousand posts

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October 9th, 2012 at 12:05 AM | Since he is frontbutt, (Score:2 Normal)
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Since he is frontbutt, wouldn't it frontfire on him instead?

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October 8th, 2012 at 7:54 PM | Edit (Score:3 Normal)
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Stupid app showing trolls not visible on the site.

Football is both an identity and a terminal illness. A rhythm and a chaos and an opiate for the mind all at once.

     -Johnny Danbury (umichedme.blogspot.com)

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:10 PM | It sounds like practice was (Score:5 Normal)
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It sounds like practice was catered and Weis wanted more for himself

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:12 PM | You can't judge Weis for this (Score:5 Normal)
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You can't judge Weis for this because YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WEIS BRAIN IS THINKING! and neither could you comprehend its astounding intricacies. Charlie Weis's reasoning is too complex for your meager minds to contemplate.

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:17 PM | Mmmm, donuts... (Score:5 Normal)
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Mmmm, donuts...

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:13 PM | No FBS wins, future games (Score:2)
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No FBS wins, future games against Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, Iowa State, and West Virginia. Yeah, they will be extremely lucky to win another contest and their season is most definitely over. With that said, it's still not the right decision and Weis is being quite the chump.

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:14 PM | He is certain the seniors (Score:5 Normal)
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He is certain the seniors have a decided schematic advantage, and do not need practice.

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:15 PM | I wish I was as rich as Weis (Score:4 Normal)
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I wish I was as rich as Weis has become off of his early termination clauses.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:38 PM | I just realized he's (Score:5 Normal)
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I just realized he's purposely running teams into the ground so he will get fired and get an early termination so he can get all the money. What a terrible, terrible genius.

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:16 PM | It's hard for me to believe that Weis is this stupid (Score:5 Normal)
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I mean I knew he was a jackass, but not necessarily an idiot. I was wrong. He's an idiot. Any coach who does this to a senior class deserves to get fired summarily.


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October 8th, 2012 at 6:22 PM | No way, Weis is brilliant. (Score:5 Normal)
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No way, Weis is brilliant.  No one on Earth has ever made as much money as Charlie Weis by being good at almost nothing.  Or he has the best agent ever.

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:41 PM | Weis... (Score:5 Insightful)
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Is this guy:

"If life is the road, then Ohio is simply a place to stop for gas." -- Scott Burgess, Detroit News, 9/16/2010
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October 8th, 2012 at 6:22 PM | Charlie Weis is a pretty good Xs and Os guy (Score:5 Normal)
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But he is a terrible manager of people.  Some of those Kansas seniors have hung on through two coaching changes (Mangino to Gill and Gill to Weis), and they deserve better than this. 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:29 PM | Seems like a great way to rip (Score:5 Insightful)
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Seems like a great way to rip the team apart. Most coaches try to, you know, win the seniors to their side.

Hail to the college whose colors we wear,

Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:33 PM | Weis is probably a pretty (Score:4 Normal)
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Weis is probably a pretty good assistant coach at any level, but he is just completely ill-suited to be a head coach in college. And why the transparent lie? No one believes he would do this if they were 4-1.

Eating is murder.

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:50 PM | Yeah he's a good OC (even (Score:2)
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Yeah he's a good OC (even that is in question from how Florida was last year) but definitely not a good head coach. Didn't think Kansas football could be run any more into the ground than it already had been, but Charlie has obviously found a drill and plopped his fat ass on top of it.

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October 8th, 2012 at 7:51 PM | Hope they revolt; Weiss is certainly (Score:1 Normal)
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revolting. 

Really reprehensible, no? What did those kids ever do to his stapled arse? I really hope that the students boo the crap out of him for this next week.

If you care more about winning than your kids you are a loser. In the world I want to live in this guy's career is over.

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October 8th, 2012 at 9:04 PM | Don't schools hold some kind of senior dinner (Score:2 Funny)
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to thank everyone for their contribution to the team? Curious how that one goes. . . 

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October 9th, 2012 at 1:45 AM | As discussed earlier in this (Score:2)
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As discussed earlier in this thread, Weis is hoping for a low turnout to the free dinner.

Hail.

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:52 PM | Pretty Low Blow, I Think... (Score:5 Normal)
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Weis is taking his cue from all those innovative, currently out-of-work CEOs who built the future by setting the present ablaze and devaluing the rank-and-file in the process. I am sure the Jayhawks' morale was low enough with the rough start, but if you're a senior in particular, this is taking that morale and flushing it down the toilet as they watch. Brilliant management strategy, Charlie. Not even half way into your first year and you've probably lost those kids. 

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October 8th, 2012 at 9:17 PM | lolwut re: rank and file. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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lolwut re: rank and file. you know biznass? mee tooooo!

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October 8th, 2012 at 7:37 PM | His stupid fat ass is going (Score:-1 Redundant)
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His stupid fat ass is going to get canned within 4 years.

When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:57 PM | eating? (Score:0 Normal)
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Is he still letting them eat food?  He coaching them up in that department I'm sure?  What a fatty.

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October 8th, 2012 at 6:57 PM | Why should the seniors worry (Score:4 Normal)
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Why should the seniors worry - this is just part of Weis's plan to lul the opponents into a false sense of confidence before unleashing the genius that returned Notre Dame to Glor...I mean, turned Florida's offense around to the dominan...that found a way to fit into human-sized pants this morning!

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October 8th, 2012 at 7:00 PM | Damn, I really miss the big (Score:2)
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Damn, I really miss the big guy.

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October 8th, 2012 at 8:27 PM | XOXOXO (Score:2)
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XOXOXO

M'Dog

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October 8th, 2012 at 7:05 PM | It's ridiculous how much (Score:5 Normal)
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It's ridiculous how much money Tom Brady made for this clown.

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October 8th, 2012 at 7:28 PM | Arkansas-Kansas (Score:5 Normal)
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I wish Arkansas and Kansas played this year. I just feel like something marvelous would come out of a JLS-Weis matchup.

Physics teacher in NY.

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October 8th, 2012 at 7:31 PM | Could jls (Score:2 Interesting)
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Force front butt to smile?

Keep your stick on the ice.

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October 8th, 2012 at 8:29 PM | You can always count (Score:4 Normal)
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You can always count on Charlie Weis to do something stupid to prove how smart he is.

M'Dog

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October 8th, 2012 at 8:32 PM | This guy is a disgrace. I (Score:1)
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This guy is a disgrace. I honestly don't know how I'd react if I was a senior on this team.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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October 8th, 2012 at 8:52 PM | How does this man (Score:1)
BlueinLansing
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Joined: 09/01/2009
MGoPoints: 4191

continue to find employment as a college football coach?

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October 8th, 2012 at 8:59 PM | So Sad (Score:2 Normal)
dj89
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Joined: 11/04/2011
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We always express our concern for players who are injured or have their scholarships pulled or otherwise suffer some cosmic wrong, but I feel especially bad for those seniors. Can you imagine Hoke doing this to last year's seniors after all they had been through? To paraphrase Gene Hackman, their commitment deserves and demands their coach's respect. There is a reason this "guy" makes teams worse.

If you will pardon a second movie reference, the real favor for KU would be to take my advice & fire his f&@$ing a$$ because a loser is a loser.

Hail!

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October 8th, 2012 at 9:01 PM | No kidding at all but there (Score:0)
Danwillhor
Joined: 12/02/2008
MGoPoints: 551

No kidding at all but there are pretty strong rumors going back to nd that he is on heavy painkillers. Like.....shouldnt be making decisions of any kind while on them type painkillers. I assume by way of weight/operations.

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October 8th, 2012 at 9:04 PM | Rock... (Score:2)
VAWolverine
Joined: 11/06/2008
MGoPoints: 1783

Chalk, Knucklehead

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October 8th, 2012 at 9:05 PM | Now let's dance... (Score:3 Normal)
death by trident
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Joined: 08/31/2011
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Still makes me laugh -

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2011/12/8/2621851/charlie-weis-is-gone-now-lets-dance

I'm sure they'd let you borrow it after you fire him Kansas.

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October 8th, 2012 at 9:55 PM | So, question (Score:3 Normal)
BiSB
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Joined: 08/15/2009
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WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP HIRING THIS MAN?

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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October 8th, 2012 at 10:03 PM | It's amazing how a guy who's so heavy (Score:2)
Don
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can so consistently fail upward. He must be able to control gravity.


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October 8th, 2012 at 10:17 PM | He's fat enough to produce (Score:2)
OysterMonkey
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He's fat enough to produce gravity.



Hey-ooooooo!

This has nothing to do with Michigan football.

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October 8th, 2012 at 10:04 PM | Come on (Score:0 Overrated)
IncrediblyBLUE
Joined: 03/26/2011
MGoPoints: 589

I do not like Charlie Weis, or anything that has to do with ND.

Perhaps he is making a smart, long term investment. Let me ask you: Do you think he is trying to rebuild the program or win as many games as possible this year? I can certainly understand why one might reason that this year is not his concern. Last time he was a head coach did not turn out well for him. If you failed at something, wouldn't you try to change things up the next time?

I still do not like Charlie Weis.

Coach Hoke once told me that a moral victory is still a (expletive deleted) loss.

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October 8th, 2012 at 10:41 PM | I understand the desire (Score:5 Normal)
BiSB
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I understand the desire to plan for the future when the present is shit. 

Playing younger guys is playing for the future. Excluding seniors is just douchy.

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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October 8th, 2012 at 10:39 PM | It's a pretty clear signal (Score:1)
UMgradMSUdad
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It's a pretty clear signal that either a) he is giving up on this season and just wants to work on next year, or b) he considers at least some of the seniors a negative influence on the younger players.

Neither option seems like a good plan for current or long term success.

If a), what's to stop him from doing this again next year if (more likely when) the team is still losing nearly every game? What kind of douche bag treats people like that? No sense of honor-- Sacrifice seniors for the possibility of better success in the future.

If b) and he thinks he has dissension with players, especially seniors, not buying in to his approach, I can only imagine this is going to make it worse.  He's treating the seniors like they've violated team rules and deserve being punished. It also means he's failed as a coach in not being able to win over the team.

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October 8th, 2012 at 10:58 PM | I got a letter from Kansas (Score:1)
MGomaha
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Joined: 03/18/2012
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I got a letter from Kansas and was really excited then I realized Charlie Weis was there.

2011 Nebraska State Champ "We're Michigan." @tannerwooten not that funny, though.

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