You know an awful lot of people fucking hate Manchester United, don't you?
OT - We are all Geordies today
Hating Man Utd is like hating Michigan, as far as I'm concerned. City = Staeee!
Sir Alex Freguson is much more like Dantonio than he is like Hoke.
I know -- I can't help supporting United though. Been doing it since Boxing Day, 1996.
hey man, that's cool. ManU supporters are better than soccer-hating trolls in my book.
SAF is a dickhole though.
You're kidding right? Sir Alex Ferguson is the most decorated manager in history. He's universally respected, he has owned City for over 20 years.
Tell me again how he's like Dantonio. There is no way. If anything, he's like Tom Osborne.
In no mood to argue with anyone (hence my weak response on this topic), but you're absolutely correct. Other than the perception that Fergie has bought the referees, the guy is nothing but class. He's almost like a Dean Smith-figure :)
The European concept of "blaming the ref" for everything that goes wrong during a game is one of the reasons to not watch soccer. Compare it to rugby where the players shut their mouths and do their job.
Manchester United gets more penalties each year because his teams dare to attack. It's not a novel concept.
Ferguson is a dick. He has a propensity to complain about the FA and the referees when he's losing, he constantly makes derogatory remarks about other managers, and he has refused to give any interviews to the BBC because he thinks they are conspiring against him.
The man is a soccer genius, but he's a total d-bag.
I'm not a Man U fan by any stretch, but come on.
Name me a manager that DOESN'T complain about the FA and the referees, you cannot name one. Clough, Paisley, Robson (take yer pick), especially Redknapp, Wenger and oh my God how about Mourinho (ruining Rune Hauge's career).
He constantly makes derogatory remarks about other managers? Please provide one. Also, please let me know if the comment was made before or after he invited that manager up for a post-match bottle of wine (which he does after every match).
You just don't like Ferguson because he wins all the time. That's natural. He's anything but a d-bag. You'll be lucky to accomplish 1/50th in your field of work what he has, same as me.
Barca supporter -- no reasoning with him :)
Barcelona is my favorite team too (Frank Rijkaard is my favorite player/manager of all time), but that doesn't mean I cannot recognize greatness that is not blaugrana when I see it
Saying I don't like Ferguson because he wins all the time sounds an awful lot like Cristiano Ronaldo saying people don't like him because he's so rich and good looking.
Choosing between Man U and Man City is like choosing which foot I want to have cut off by a rusty saw.
Pulling for Newcastle cause I'd like to see them in the Champions League rather than Tottenham or Chelsea.
Yeah, I'm pulling for Newcastle for those reasons too (can't stand Spurs or Chelsea).
City already with a few quality opportunities - just a matter of time.
...I don't really care. I'm still bitter about that dang tie.
And yes, both ManU and City can respectfully go screw themselves.
Nice goal-line stand there by NU. Sheesh
I love the English announcers, sometimes.
You think the English leagues are bad? I would not recommend watching La Liga...
Dempsey has scored for Fulham -- what a great season he's having.
A link to his goal:
Pretty awesome. His 50th career Premier League goal.
What the fuck is a Geordie, and why should I give a damn?
A Geordie is someone who lives in the toon
What's a toon?
The greater Newcastle Upon Tyne area.....not to be confused with Mackems.....they are from Sunderland and are therefore terrible
Man U = Yankees. Man City = Red Sox. No good reason to root for either one.
I used to agree....before the Sox got their WS in 04. But then their fans became as obnoxious as Yankee fans. Now I just hope that somehow all their players decide to retire simultaneously.
In a way I find Red Sox fans even more insufferable, because they persist in playing the "underdog card" despite having a gigantic payroll themselves. Yankee fans make no apologies for the fact that they outspend everyone.
BoSox fan: "OK, maybe our payroll is $150M and we've won two WS in the last decade but the Yankees spend more and we've only won two WS in 80 years, so we deserve to win all the time now. Plus we have a big wall in left field."
Yankee fan: "Yeah, we outspend everybody. You think Bud Selig's gonna put in a salary cap? Fuggeddaboutit."
Red Sox fandom is a lot like Sparty fandom in that they often exert more effort hating their rival than rooting for their own team, except mixed in with the general opinion that the sun revolves around Boston. So in response to Globules, no, not Red Sox over Yankees any day....in fact, ever since living in New England for a couple years I've been surprised to find myself believing the Yankees the lesser of the two evils.
i would say that sox = liverpool, you cause they are owned by the same people
Man U, Man City, and Chelsea are all the Yankees. Arsenal and Liverpool are both the Red Sox. Tottenham is maybe the Angels. All the other teams are the Brewers.
To hell with Tottenham.
Man, do we have the glory hunters in this thread. Americans rooting for Man U, Barca et al? Come on guys, how about some originality.
I root for Athletic Bilbao. Its rough, but someone has to do it.
I love Bilbao. Their posession style and the fact that every one of their players is from the Basque region in spain is fucking awesome.
And to needlessly defend myself, I started rooting for Barca 6 years ago because Xavi and Iniesta are little guys who make large defenders look silly.... and I am a small guy who wishes I could make large defenders look silly.
Hope you win the Europa League. Javi Martinez is a dream player for me and Llorente is excellent. Go get 'em!
No kidding. I follow the Wolves and Lecce. The latter because my buddies and I started a manager mode in Fifa and we just picked a random team in Serie B the year of the game. Turned out to be Lecce and we had a good time with it so I still follow them. My #1 is Wolves and I chose them because I like their name, their history and their manager at the time (McCarthy). I didn't want to pick a top team because I hate bandwagon fans and never wanted to be labeled as one.
...So you picked the worst team in the EPL. It kinda sounds like you just enjoy pain.
I actually picked to follow them in 2008 when they were in the Championship. But I didn't start becoming a soccer fanatic until last season.
Ahh, well qualification for the EPL must've been a thrill. Hopefully you can enjoy that feeling again next season. You deserve is after following "the Horror" EPL style. Heres to the Wolves winning their own "Sugar Bowl".
can't root for them. But I also don't hate them like I do Man U.
Would you dissuade a kid in California from rooting for the Wolverines simply because he saw them on tv and loved the helmets and the good team on the field? And would you blame him further if he then looked up this magical team on the internets and was taken in by their history? A lot of people root for United, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, and Chelsea for these same reasons (as well as the fact that other teams are very hard to follow from the US). I love United and I'm not ashamed to say it.
I went for Borussia Dortmund in the Budesliga several years ago, back when they were a mid-table team. So what happens? They run away with two league titles and have a shot at the German double with a win over Bayern Munich next week. Oh well, at least we suck in the Champions League...
That should wrap up the championship, barring a meltdown next week.
And hate both United and City..........It will be interesting to see how both Manchester clubs fare once financial fair play goes into effect........One more chance next weekend for the Toon to get into the Champs league since Emirates City have this one wrapped up.......
I don't really care who wins the EPL because either way, it will be an evil empire. But I saw a headline this week that said "Sir Alex: We Can't Spend Like City" and he went on to complain about how the transfer market is insane. It's like Mike Scoscia or Jim Leyland complaining that we they can't spend like the Yankees. I had a laugh.
i was rooting for Newcastle though because I'd like to see them get into the Champions League.
City-QPR should be a great match next weekend. One could be fighting for the league title and the other will be fighting for survival.
That's just him playing mind games again. You don't win TWELVE league championships complaining
Nah, I think it's just him complaining. It's not the first time he's done it and it won't be the last. I don't think complaining about the transfer market is going to pay dividends on the pitch. City players probably didn't even see this. He's won twelve championships because 1) he's a pretty good tactician and motivator 2) His club has better players because they have the money to buy and keep them
United doesn't get enough credit for their youth system. The foundation for their dominance in the 90s was built on players who came through the youth system, and two of them continue to make a contribution today.
I have no doubt they have a great youth academy and whatnot. But you don't sustain success like that anymore. Most of the top clubs can just buy the quick fix and wait til their youth guys are ready to play at an elite level. Or sell them to the clubs below them.
The Yankees have a decent farm system and have a few players that came up through the system. But they sustain success by getting top notch FA year in and year out.
If you define success as being a top 3 team in one of the top 3 leagues every year and making it to the Champions League knockout round every year, then I agree with you.
But I think teams like Valencia, Ajax, PSV, Lyon (kinda), Marseille, Bilbao, Everton, Porto, and Benfica have been very succesful using their youth systems. Not as succesful as the biggest clubs, but very respectable and competetive without buying many top players.
I agree. But even when these guys develop a top player, most of them are destined for the elite clubs anyways. Soccer is the most unbalanced of the sports I follow. Part of it is the nature of the system (so many leagues, relegation, promotion etc etc). I despise all the top clubs. I will watch them because they play the best football (obvious since they have the best players) and I like the sport. One of the reasons why I chose Wolves is because of their sound business. The only club in the EPL that made a profit last year. But the best we can ever really do following this model is a midtable finish. But I am ok with that. And I'm actually not terribly upset with them going to the Championshp. It will be fun to see them in a league where there is more parody. But obviously I'd prefer them to be in the top flight because I'd actually get to watch every one of their matches.
downvoted for general presumptuousness.
My wife brought me a Man red cap from London--my daughers' pet rats now sleep in it.
the football offseason can get very slow
Valencia makes everything happen, Scholes tips it home. 1-0.
Howayyy the lads....howayyy the lads. Tough loss. Gotta win the next one and hope for Bayern to win the CL Final
MAN CITY ALL THE WAY
Spurs drew. Yeah, as an Arsenal supporter, I feel completely different from yesterday. It's nice to have your own destiny in your own hands. Gotta beat West Brom next Sunday.
You know, if it weren't for us Americans you'd all be speaking German right about now.
a) that has absolutely nothing to do with soccer
b) unless you personally fought in WWII.... then by your same logic if it weren't for the western europeans colonizing North America and killing literally millions of natives, you would not BE an American.
So if Europeans somehow owe you a "thank you," then you must reciprocate.
Please, its all about Dundee United. Randomly picked them on Fifa a long time ago and I've been following them since.
The 'Bama game can't get here soon enough.
i watch alot of Serie A
My club team is Cagliari (that new stadiumneeds to get finished ) but I do love the Italian National team also.
Cagliari needs some offense...
as for the EPL,,,,,,,glad to see Aston Villa go down hill
good to see some new teams from the EPL get into the Champions League possibly
Well done, Mancini!
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.