Just announced via http://twitter.com/#!/fbrumormill
No official release yet.
Just announced via http://twitter.com/#!/fbrumormill
No official release yet.
Guess we'll see him back in the announcer's booth or pre-game show studio.
Guess its better than Pam Ward, Matt Millen or even that slobbering mess Lou Holtz.
See ya next fall Wannstedt.
As a Syracuse and Michigan fan, I welcome this. Recruits for all!
I wonder if this helps us in recruiting and in our search for a new DC if RR stays. I wouldn't mind having the 'stache or Shannon coaches our D! Plus, it sure seems like he could recruit, and we've been having a harder time in Penn. since he took over.
The only thing I missed in my post was profitgoblue teasing us. Off to fire practice for me!
Long live the 'Stache.
It is a wonderfull stache
Wonder if they were going to fire him or something? Can we poach some of his recruits?
A news story by Paul Zeise, the Pitt football beat reporter for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, has Pitt athletic director Steve Pederson meeting with head football coach Dave Wannstedt later this week to discuss the future of the program.
is the AD who crapped all over himself at Nebraska...correct?
The Pitt AD is indeed the very same guy who singlehandedly changed the nickname from the Nebraska Cornhuskers to the Nebraska Pantcrappers.
That's the great thing about America—you can fail upward.
That's the guy. Not only the Husker AD, but he's a Husker alum as well and still srewed it up in Lincoln. If I'm not mistaken, he was AD at Pitt before Nebraska and then was welcomed back with open arms at Pitt.
I'll make an edit -- it's on other pages now. And actually, that is a pretty reliable source. About an hour ago they tweeted that there were rumors floating around that his job may be in jeopardy.
No worries for the man. You know, come to think of it, he has a certain look to him that might make him a perfect fit for a career in . . . uh . . . maybe as a d-coordinator for another team? He has a great defensive mind.
1) Big East Head Coach of an underachieving team
2) NFL pedigree
3) Defensive minded
4) Is known for his hair (but on his lip)
Maybe we should avoid this cycle....
we can snake oil?
Current Pitt commits who have Michigan offers are RB/WR Bill Belton, CB Terrell Chestnut, DE Desimon Green, CB Kyshoen Jarrett, and LB Ben Kline.
IIRC, weren't Green and Jarrett high on us at one point?
Yes, as was Ben Kline.
Dave Wannstedt out at Pitt. DB Kyshoen Jarrett is a current Pitt commit. May be some opportunity there for Michigan, also Penn State.
Me gusta mucho
DB Kyshoen Jarrett is sending out a text message to coaches, including Michigan coaches to get back in touch with them.
god, if those Penn State Geriatrics get him...I am going to....get mad.
was the last straw. He's never really had consistently top shelf teams anywhere he's been HC, has he?
No, definitely not. But Pitt doesn't have a recent history of being extremely good (they did go to a BCS game a few years back, which was fun having both alma maters in BCS games). Also, from what I understand, Wannstedt is a very good (?) recruiter and a very good teacher of the game. The biggest complaint I consistently heard was that he's not a good "gameday" coach. And I guess that's what it comes down to after getting 4 years to prove himself (see what I did there?).
Are backdoor references to timelines covered in the act?
Yes, but I really just threw it in there for fun.
I know I just couldn't resist pointing it out.
As a former Pitt student, this is basically spot on. He assembles a lot of NFL talent that go on to do good things, but can't put together a dominant team even in the Big East. Individually, Pitt has more talent than any other Big East team. Problem is, you take that talent against a team with a great scheme (Brian Kelly's UC) and get beat every time.
Also, the biggest complaint with the students was that he could never get it done when it mattered. He lost two in a row in the Backyard Brawl and two in a row to Cincinnati to lose BCS berths in 08-09, and then the Big East implodes this year and he couldn't deliver then either.
referring to Michigan specifically when talking about recruits like Steve Breaston and Marlin Jackson leaving the state when he was hired. Hard not to think he may have hurt us in recruiting with that emphasis. I look forward to any poaching and snake oiling that may take place. Re-open the Pennsylvania pipeline!
Me too but I think poaching may be tough until this coaching business settles into something definite.
This was JoePa's strategy all along -- let the stache do all the work and then grab his class as soon as he is fired.
I never thought he was a particularly great coach anywhere, whether it was in the pros or in college. I think he'd make a great D coordinator in the NFL (not in college though), but I don't think he gets any head coaching offers anytime soon (except for a lesser BCS program or non-BCS FBS school, which I doubt he'd take).
to bring him in for the Big Chill. Text back!
Wannstedt just seems to be one of those guys that just doesn't seem to have "it" as a head coach. His teams are rarely bad but never very good either. Given that he's now struck out after long tenures with the Bears, the Dolphins and now Pitt, I wonder if he ever gets another shot or if he's just going to go back to being an DC somewhere.
measureables? Is he good at man to man or zone? Any additional information on Jarrett?
I heard he is a waist-bender.
finished at or near the top of the big east the past few years. granted i'm not a big wanny supporter, but he recruits pretty well there. i see them plummeting back to the abyss again, even in the big east.
Heinz capacity is listed as over 65K, but for the Backyard Brawl, Pitt only drew 60K. For the Miami game, they drew only 58K. Not as bad as Stanford numbers, but not good either.
The trouble is that Heinz isn't a campus stadium, and that's far from ideal for a college program.
Miami faces the same issues and I think this played into Randy Shannon's firing as well. I think it's tough to fill a stadium when you're not on a college campus. But it also is easier to do when you're winning consistently.
I was at the Backyard Brawl this year and was surprised at the number of empty seats. I told my nephew that same thing you mention - that it hurt attendance when Pitt decided to go with Heinz Field and tear down old Pitt stadium in exchange for the new center they build in its place. They bus the students in from campus on yellow school buses.
(P.S. I was at the last game at Pitt Stadium and still have a piece of the turf. They had mounted police guarding the goal posts and I couldn't figure out why since the stadium was being torn down.)
It's sad when you can't even sell out the Backyard Brawl. My family has season tickets, so before I came here, I was a big fan. Two years ago it seemed to be 1/3 WVU fans, at least it was full. I thought they were making progress with the "Sweet Caroline" before the 4th quarter, but I guess it's doomed to be a cold, heartless NFL stadium.
Interpreting your use of the word "cold" differently . . . it was cold as ice at the game this year. I about froze my balls off and seriously considered leaving early. But staying to the end so that I could chant "Casteel to Michigan" was priceless. There were so many WVU fans that I was lucky to get out of there unscathed!
Ha yeah it was cold. I was back home in Pgh in a turkey bowl trying to be intimidating in a t shirt and shorts. Bad idea.
That's not Wanny, that's Pitt. The campus is so far removed from Heinz Field and PNC Park that most people in this town probably forget that Pitt plays there. The fact that Pitt students don't really care about football (except as an excuse to get wasted bro!) and are much, much more into basketball doesn't help. Roll that up with most people in Pittsburgh being more up for watching Steelers highlights from 1965 than a college football game and you've got yourself an empty stadium.
Could be RichRod's soft landing spot. He could go back to dominating the Big East!
Has anyone gotten better mileage out of image and association than Wannstedt?
What I mean, specifically:
* Image: He's from Pitt. He played ball at Pitt (and blocked for Tony DorSETT, woo). Gosh darn, he even _looks_ like a Pennsylvania football player and coach. I think Dantonio has benefitted from thinking along these lines.
* Association: He served under winning coaches and on winning teams. That seems to have been worth at least two head coaching opportunities.
I hate hearing people say DOR-sett. My mom still calls #13 Danny Marino because she's not an NFL fan, just a Pitt fan. Funny how the local fans pronounce things differently than the notional media.
before he lost his last few games, the narrative here on mgoblog was "look at wannestache doing well after he struggled his first few years. see, this is just like rr - give him time and he'll succeed!"
now a year later, he flopped on his face and resigned. hmm...
i guess it depends on your point of view. i think they still tied for the conf title this year. they did lose their final 2 games which obviously spelled his doom. but, imo, they have the best program in the big east now. though it is the big east.
Tied for your conference title does not count for much in the imploded big east.
They just beat Cincinnati 28-10. They won two of their last three games.
the year in the top 20 (15, i believe) and went 7-5 despite bringing back a lot of key pieces from last year's team that won 10 games.
Wannstedt has been plagued with the inability to bring in a big-time QB. He's had some beasts at the RB position (McCoy, Stephens-Howling) though.
Going into the 2009 season, I bet most Pitt fans wouldn't have said they would most miss Bill Stull from that senior class. However, he put together a very good 2009 season and is probably the most missed element from the 2010 campaign.
Tino Sunseri's final numbers look pretty decent enough, but he really struggled in their losses (especially early in the season), and that, coupled with Dion Lewis' peculiar early season woes, hurt Pitt's offense. Add the loss of big-time DE Greg Romeus for basically the entire season, and I'm not totally shocked that they struggled, at least early on.
I would hardly call that post a narrative, let alone a MGoBlog narrative.
Harbaugh's Year 3 improvement was mentioned as often as Wanny's
And, really, that thread was nothing more than a typical tom hagen and KOB (whats his name now, I forgot) meltdown. I think you're being a little disengenious by saying 'look at wanny's progression as a blueprint for us' was any sort of consistent narrative formally or unformally here at Mgoblog.
This was a single thread and, if you read it, goes way off ski's. Still, its always a good to read past freak outs.
Los Barcos disingenuously focusing on partial facts to support his anti-RR position? Say it ain't so!!!
JK, LB, Luv U big guy xoxo!!!
That thread had everything. Where have those people gone? Are they among us? After reading the Hello Shawn Conway thread I found it funny to read MichMike's posts on that one. Where are they now that we're in a bowl game?
I liked the stache, I am a bit surprised, probably shouldn't be but I am
At least be original! See above.
Humor may not be your thing, my man. I prefer the comedic stylings of your relatives.
I'm just glad the Steelers never hired him
How about this
Pitt hires Richard J Rodriguez while we hire Jim Hopefully I Am Better Than My Bro Harbaugh
The loud part of our fanbase can shut up--unitl the first loss--while the rest of us can do what we do, cheer for the team.....meanwhile, we get Rich vs WVA on an annual basis.
This should really happen. It would be RAD.
Heh... if that ever transpired, I think Morgantown would go up in a mushroom cloud even without an ounce of fissile material. The youtubes would be awesome.
I know. It would be so worth it.
That Smoking Musket Blog would implode in disarray.
how Bill Cowher has tamed back the mustache since he is an analyst now? Some stylist is trying to steal his power.
How do you get axed in a year where you tie for the conference championship? How does 5-2 in your conference three years in a row fail to live up to expectations at a program whose last coach bailed to take the Stanford job?
Not a huge Wannstedt fan, but I don't see what he's done to get forced out or who they think will come in and do a better job with that program.
EDIT: Nevermind. Just read that their AD is the same guy who fired Frank Solich so he could bring in Bill Callahan. No explanation is required.
The expectations are that they win the Big East (which they tied for this year) and go to the BCS. As someone above said, they seem to get talent that does (or will) play in the NFL, but can't do anything with it. They don't win when they should, and they come out flat and get blown out in too many big games.
This wasn't a "resignation" - this was him being fired then the school making it all nicey-nicey by allowing him to "resign" then get bumped up into the Athletic Department as an ambassador for the program (which he is good at) and the school.
Listening to local talk radio, the concensus is that this is a good move (of course depending on who they get as a replacement), because Wanny wasn't getting it done.
The difference between here and Nebraska with the AD is that most of the fans wanted Wanny gone, and I don't think they did with Solich. Local rumors are that a number of donors and influential alumni were so unhappy they weren't going to games and were not going to give the big bucks to get the good seats at Heinz Field (plus, the empty seats don't help, either).
*4, #15 CB, top 200 player on rivals= my 7th Hanukkah present
who transfered after Wannstedt placated the locals and choose to start Tyler Palco over Flacco. Granted, Palco is in the NFL, but how many arms can compare to Falco? Not many. The high school Palco graduated from West Allegheny has a pipeline to PIT.
How many names are you going to misspell in your next post?
Interesting that he misspelled the "easy" names, while spelling both Allegheny and Wannstedt correctly.
It's the keyboard, really i can't type worth a *hit. I will review my posts in the future to alleviate any potential error's.
how many arms can compare to Falco?
The question is how many arms can hug Falco? And the answer is two. Mine! (hopefully... someday... I think it's those brooding Austrian good looks...).
I will always love Wannstedt for giving me by desktop background.
I love the turquoise pleated shorts. You're a real looker.
CNS on the right?
Saban is teeny.
When in God's name—and where—was that photo taken? Is that Nick Satan on the right?
Yeah, thats Saban. Saw it on EDSBS a few months back. Classic.
So is Pitt gonna change there name from the Fighting Wannstedt's back to the Panthers??
I thought he did a pretty ok job. Won 10 games one season, nearly won the big east last year. It's Pitt, not Florida. Will be surprised to see them do better.
you have a bright future in porn!
on here complaining about how Dave Brandon is handling Rod's situation (I think he's doing jusf fine btw) for a really bad idea about how to handle a coaching situation: See Pitt. Really, you force a guy to resign who tied for the championship? If you want to fire him, fire him. Credit to Wanny for taking it like a man for his school. Their A.D. is nuts. Certifiable. We are talking Pitt here.
Second, I would think that Pitt's A.D. must have someone or someones in mind to fire a reasonably successful coach. Would you fire Wanny to hire Brady Hoke? Randy Shannon? Calvin McGee? Probably not. Jon Gruden or Mike Leach, maybe. Rich Rodriguez, hell yes. Jimmy Harbaugh ain't leavin' Stanford for Pitt, so that's a nonstarter.
If you're Miami and Pitt and Rodriguez gets available, he's clearly very desireable. Sorry in advance for mentioning our CC situation, but is tangentially related since I think we ought to keep Rodriguez and hire Shannon as a DC. Fortunately for Michigan, I can't see Pitt interested in Shannon, so there's that.