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OT: Walking Dead 9 pm, Game of Thrones 10 pm Open Thread- Spoilers at those times.
Wouldn't it be better to DVR walking dead so that you can skip commercials?
For an open thread syncing everyone's fast forwarding is going to be challenging. Going to be hard enough with the no commercial replay of GoT at 10:05. Besides, for non-dvr WD isn't on again till after 11. And we'll have 6-8 minutes to kill after the 9 pm live GoT broadcast. Nothing works perfectly. And more people have AMC than HBO most likely.
Ahh, beat me to it!
Count me in for the TWD first, GoT second crowd.
GOT is on at 9
Encore showing is immediately following at 10pm.
A bunch of us last week decided to watch in this order for a few reasons:
A: TWD finale takes precedent
and in my opinion...
B: TWD is a more social show, the commercials allow for discussion without missing anything
C: TWD is a more widely seen show, so if you are on a computer you run the risk of seeing spoilers if you are not watching it in real time.
I agree with B and C, but I think GoT is a much better show, so I will be watching it first.
And that was my "Pro" for GoT first. Definitely a better show. But I feel there's much less harm in waiting on it for an hour.
Walking Dead is the Avengers. Great popcorn fun that you care about. Game of Thrones is the Dark Knight; more film, Oscar/Emmy fare. But sometimes hard to root for someone.
We should probably still split these up so the people who watch GoT first can have an open thread.
I guess you can feel free to start one. Or join the dark side and watch GoT after.
But you'll have to create a dual one or another at 11 pm, or only get half your audience. No one watching GoT at 9 will be spoiled by this thread.
Watching GOT first.
Aaaaand Milton gets the first "CYA!"
Awesome opening! Kill or you die or you die then you kill...
Compared to the comics.
I am refusing to scroll down on this thread so I don't see any stuff on walking dead until I watch it tonight but GoT has me wanting to get an Inuit husky so bad those things are badass
Just don't post anything on GoT until at least 1 hour after you've seen it if you're watching it first.
Oh wow what a perfectly cheesy Walking Dead line:
"In this life you either kill or you die... or you die and you kill."
Terrible lazy writting. I lost a lot of respect for this show today. 8 episodes of buildup for this crap. At least they killed Andrea!
I hope the damn governor has happen to him what the Gators had happen to them earlier today....they were the ones who got chomped!!!
Yay, Final Four, I'm sad tho that i have to wait 6 months for TWD
Andrea would be delicious to eat I bet!
During that Iron Man commercial? Scared me.
Yes. I had to tell myself twice "The lights are on, you still have power, idiot"
That DOESN'T have HBO? Or does everyone pretty much have it nowadays?
I normally don't have it, but AT&T is offering 3 free months right now. What perfect timing. The offer is still valid too, so any of you that want in on the action and have U-Verse, call up AT&T right now and they can probably have it activated by the encore presentation of GoT
Here we go, right into it!
have to go to a damn dinner for easter, thank goodness for DVR's
The action is getting started early, me likey.
You get out of your Easter plans? :-)
Yes, but I did manage to get a few dirty looks after dinner. Priorities people, priorities.
For a bunch of people who don't fight.
Prison group fighting with their brains so far...
Straight up truth, but dark.
Splitting up the group to search the prison. One group will be gone due to walker attack.
I think the prison group will ambush the Woodbury group.
Yeah, drop the weapon dumbass.
Carl is a hardened veteran now. No thought, just action, that was brutal.
Hey, he said drop it...would've did the same thing.
Too often in movies and tv they let them get close enough to disarm you. If someone says drop it and you don't drop it, you are asking to get shot.
That "World War Z" sci-fi flick staring Brad Pitt looks good. Coupled that with the Tom Cruise one and it appears there are some big time epic, non-comic book sci-fi movies in store for this summer.
WWZ is based on a book though.
They just had to show that blasphemous World War Z trailer. Way to bastardize that book Brad.
So it's based on a book? Why the pessimistic outlook?
The book is about military tactics when it comes to zombies, it's a fun read and rather cheap on Amazon. The movie sounds nothing like the book except for the title. That Tom Cruise movie looks pretty interesting though.
Ah, thank you. Yeah, I was much more interested when I thought it was a more ambiguous apocalytic reason... Another zombie movie that is not that intellectually stimulating is not as exciting.
(I understand the irony of that statement in a Walking Dead thread)
I just had to read Theories of International Politics and Zombies for my world politics class. (I know best text book ever. ) It compared World War Z with other zombie fictions. Both are very good reads if you are into the zombies.
But it's more from a reporter point of view and chronicles the events, right? This looks like typical run from the zombies, and badly CGI'd zombies at that.
It looks like they gave it the Michael Bay treatment. The book is a recount by many people from from all over the world, and from all walks of life on their experience during the apocalypse, and not one centralized story. It's almost like it really happened. The movie looks like the typical summer movie.
I highly recommend the book. The pace and the intriguing and moving stories makes for a really good and quick read.
That's what happens when you wait to shoot.
Was not expecting the governor to lose it like that.
She killin' the Govena
So the Evil Dead remake looks infinitely more terrifying than having Bruce Campbell running around in the woods.
From the comics, don't like it. I know everyone hates Andrea but she is a center piece of the comics. I think it's bullshit
My emotions about her are based on the show so all I have to say is good riddance you annoying bitch.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of the comics, and I don't really like what happened tonight either.
Kirkman said that the comics and the show are two completely different entities. I kind of figured Andrea was going to die because she was pretty well hated. I just think that the whole last episode was kind of rushed. I think that they could have cut out a previous episode and expanded the whole prison attack.
I'm also pretty disappointed that Lilly wasn't even present.
I'll have to watch this episode over again but I feel like the parts that shouldn't have been drawn out (Milton/Andrea) were, and the parts that should have been drawn out (The Governer/The Prison) weren't.
The only redeeming quality was Carl, surprisingly.
It should have been 2 hours. The Governer really needs to get his. Carl should give it to him, and they had it set up perfectly - like a lob alley-oop slam dunk from Trey. When the Governer wasn't in the town, I thought for sure we were going to get Carl vs Gov. to protect the rest.
Holy plot deviation from the comics, that's more than just a subtle change.
Why not just take over the town? Or is that too much like something.....later....?
And did I miss them explicitly saying Andrea was bit?
Everyone hit play.....now.
Just finished the opening sequence of GoT, so hopefully some others are on board!
Decent finish to TWD. Interesting turns abound.
The Walking Dead cast is feeling a bit bloated at this point. I expected more attrition.
You want more attrition? The group is lead by Rick not Rich Rod! /s too soon?
Before the cool credits.
What a dissapointing finale to what was a hopelessly dissapointing season. They did absolutely nothing to keep me interested in continuing to watch the show, and there's a chance they just lost 2 viewers in my wife and I. No closure, no setup for the next season, nothing. Worst season finale to any show I've ever watched. Any suggestions for good shows to turn my attention to (besides Game of Thrones of course).
The show was pretty good IME. This episode was pretty slow though for how they had is built up. I am a sucker for zombies though, so it would have to be pretty bad for me to hate it.
What's my motivation for continuing to watch? What did they give me to think about that's going to hold a special place in my memory as I wait for season 4? I get that what happened was a big deal and huge deviation when compared to the comics, but in the context of the show itself, it doesnt do much for me. Zombies are awesome, but clearly the show doesn't rely on that alone, so I was expecting them to give me a least a little something to whet my appetite for future episodes. With how it was presented, this seemed like more of slowly developing poor man's series finale than the end of a season.
I couldn't agree more Charlie Day. This show has gone the way of Heroes of building up for ten episodes to have an underwhelming finale. I'm done with this show. I'll wait until my buddies review to decide. The plus side of watching the show after it's finished is avoiding 30 hours of commercials.
Ugh I wish heroes was back, and by back I mean just season 1.
Mad Men returns next Sunday and is always worth the time. The Americans is fairly good but it's rather far into the season, but i'm sure they have episodes OnDemand if you have that feature.
Giants this season.
Someone maybe do me a favor? I just finished reading Storm of Swords and haven't seen any of the show other than a couple YouTube clips. (Don't have HBO, don't plan on getting it, and I'm waiting til the fall to get the Blu-Rays.) What did they end the second season with?
Battle of Blackwater (Ep9), Dany reclaiming her dragons, Bran and Rickon leaving Winterfell, Robb marrying the medic, and white walkers appearing (Ep10)
Hmmm....it ain't a medic in the book. And Brienne is marching Jaime along, yes? (Tom Long made reference to that.) I gather they went a fair ways into book 3 at the end of season 2. I ask cause I want to follow along and not accidentally blab at the same time. I know this is supposed to only be the first half of book 3, but I'll be awfully interested to find out where they actually stop.
I know we see the RW and maybe PW...
I think it depends on how much dany and jon are part of this season...
The RW seems like the perfect way to end the season, but if so then this season would be quite a bit more than just half the book. Although they did nudge Barristan Selmy a long way forward in the storyline. It would've been too hard to keep him disguised all the way through.
I can't imagine we won't see quite a bit of Jon in both seasons three and four, it seems like there's more of him in this book than anyone else.
They can't end on the RW because so many people have described shock to the point of putting the book down after reading that chapter... with that in mind I think they will move it up a little so that other story lines draw peopl back the next week. I think it would be a risk to end with that scene because people may not come back...
I believe RW will be episode 7 or 8 and PW will be either 10 or 1 of next year...
I must be really weird because I felt the same way for about a day... then I finished the book in the next two. Couldn't stop after that. This is a series pretty well known for taking unconventional risks, of course, which the first book/season was a testament to. But I think the book offers the perfect way to draw people back even without the other storylines.
Yes, season 2 went into book 3 a bit.
Robb married a women (in secret) who was working on the fields as a medic (sawing off legs in the battlefields) but had some more nobel upbringing. Apologies for not following the details of that too well.
Yes, Brienne and Jamie ended the second season marching along.
This episode thus far has brought Robb to Harrenhal, Tyrion get lambasted by his father for basically being an embarrassing imp that killed his mother. And we just found out that Davos survived. And Jon Snow met Mance Ryder. That's about where we're at.
I'm going to be in a tough decision this summer: I'm 1/4 of the way through the second book but since this season is adapting approx the first half of Storm of Swords, I'll have to decide if I want to surpass the TV series or not...
There's a 14 minutes season 1 & 2 recap by HBO online. I think it might have been linked in the thread earlier today.
Edit: yeah, it was-
Muchas gracias to you and Tom.
This season is supposed to be the first half of that book.
Yea it's a bit of a shot at diehard fans upset with book deviations.
But they're being kind of silly.
*Possible Spoilers of source materials*
I don't freak out that they didn't cut off Rick's hand because it causes way more problems on a live action set than it does in a drawn comic (unless you're just an occassional character), and likewise, taking your award winning best actor and having to computer erase his nose everyepisode so that's all people look at doesn't seem dollar or drama smart.
I think as the show goes on it gets harder and harder to adhere to the books... I wonder how they will keep it together...
I did like the intro of tormund though (one of my favorite characters) and Bronn the badass...
Just watched TWD on DVR. For me, a very underwhelming "war" and episode.
Carl killed one guy with one bullet. The rest of the group kill zero with 6,000 bullets.
Oh shit, Selmy found Daenyreus!
With the translator? Wow.
Sorry for the unwildiness of these threads. Someone start a dedicated GoT thread next week before 9 pm.
Talking Dead anyone?
The prison attack was right out of a GI Joe cartoon. Lots of explosions and in the end nobody even has a scratch. Was the prison group intentionally sparing them after the ambush? That would have made sense out of such a lame battle. But I don't think that's it since they turned around and went after Woodbury.
Also... Not a fan of the sociopath 11 year old. That kind of crossed the line.
Still, For all the flaws I'm hooked.
I thought Carl made the right move. That kid didn't throw down his gun, he looked like he might be trying something.
The guy was dead as soon as he didn't drop the gun. They could have made him look worse. Poor directing if you ask me.
I think the directing was great for this scene. The kid appeared to be young and weak, thus having Carl kill him shows Carl is losing it.
I may just not be understanding your comment fully either, i am interpreting what you are saying as they could have made the kid appear more intimidating.
They could've made Carl look more unhinged if the situation was less 50/50. A lot of people would say Carl did the right thing. The scene should've been way more obvious like the guy dropping the gun and then Carl shooting him.
But I'm not sure that it was bad direction. I think it was purposefully vague, so people could fall on either side of it; not a way to illustrate Carl as lost it. If anything, it might show he's taken Shane's roll when Shane wasn't losing it...that this is how you have to act in this world if you want to stay alive.
In any case, I agree, Hershel was way off base. He not only didn't drop his gun, he was advancing forward. You don't "hand someone" your gun. Because no one should ever let you get that close. Drop the gun or die. Should be an easy choice. Unless you think you can take advantage of the situation.
Watching Talking Dead now, but way more excited about GoT. Definitely watching it again tonight.
My book dilemma is really nagging at me now, though. I guess it's a bridge I'll cross when I get there... and that may be a moot point considering i've only read the first 200 pages of book 2 since mid September. At that rate, HBO will finish season 4 by the time I get a quarter of the way through SoS unless I pick up the pace in the summer.
Unsolicited advice on your dilemma: it's almost certainly not worth worrying about the decision til we see how far into SoS this season takes us. I'll say this though: Unlike the first two books, SoS ends not with a preview chapter, but with an epilogue. I don't know what your threshold is for learning stuff from the book that you'd rather save for the show. Depending on the end of this season, I might suggest finishing the book but not the epilogue. It would let you split the remaining surprises, and the epilogue has no major plot advancement, only a little something to hook your interest into the next book.
One last comment before I'm out for the night:
Peter Dinklage was FANTASTIC tonight in his scene with his father, most of which he had no lines. Give him another Emmy now.
Late to the party. I watched TWD finale and thought it was a pretty good finish. I'm glad we didn't loose anyone huge tonight. I can't believe people are complaining about not having a cliffhanger. Also there is a new showrunner for next season and he also directed the episode "clear" which was one of my favorites of season 3. Can't wait for season 4.
Trey Burke fights on the side that fights for the living!