He deserved it. Go Tigers.
i refuse to even consider this a possibility
YEAH!!!! I'm so happy.
Dominant season. Well deserved JV, it was a pleasure watching you and the boys
JV just accomplished one of the most prestigious things a pitcher could do. Quite an exciting season to watch from the big guy.
Exciting indeed! In my lifetime I would rate this as the third most exciting season by a Tiger hurler.
1. Mark Fidrych 1976 rookie season. The late great Mark "The Bird" Fidrych captivated the city like no other athlete I can remember. It was an Electric summer, with a capital E
2. Denny Mclain 1968. I barely remember this one but it was an exciting race to 30 wins.
3. Justin Verlander 2011. nuff said
Tigers now have the most pitchers to win both MVP and Cy Young with a total of three. That is huge.
84 Jack Morris...out the gate the Tigers ripped off 40. TigerTown was the talk of MLB,but the talk around here was Jack Morris. His era was crazy low,unheard of in todays climate of batter up,which led to a very special season for Jack...CY and MVP(?)
69 Mickey Lolich...after the succesfull previous season Mickey came out and had a very good season I recall...methink he won close to 30. He was unhittable that year I recall..
I was quite young myself as I recall the 69 season...no other place to be,but on Michigan & Trumbull.
Holy shit. Way to go JV, you deserved it. Never thought in a million years the voters would suck it up and vote for a pitcher.
I see you JV.
edit* Damn, beat to the punch
Good to see the voters make the right choice.
I'm a Yankees fan and I desperately wanted JV to win it over Granderson. Verlander had a career year and he 100% deserved it over everyone else.
But only b/c I have GrandyMan on my fantasy team and it's worth $10 bucks for me if he got it. The Tigers fan in me is very happy for JV. I think he deserved it more!
Seriously, $10? I'd hate to see who you would cheer for if I offered you $20!
I still like Granderson b/c he was a Tiger and my favorite one at that. I said I was still happy and wanted Verlander to win... doesn't mean I can't think about for peronal benefit.
Congrats JV, looking forward to next year!
Let's hope this is a harbinger of great things to come this week.
Cabrera finished 4th. Great year from both guys, congrats.
What a way to kick off this incredible week of sports, Michigan area fans!!!!
I am happy for JV. He deserved this award. To the guy who left him off his ballot, you need to have your vote taken away.
Jim Ingraham of the Herald-News in Ohio left Verlander off his ballot. Not to be outdone, Sheldon Ocker of the Akron Beacon Journal voted Verlander 8th. That state down south representing itself well as usual . . . .
It's a good time to be a sports fan in the D.
Big ups to JV.
Per ESPN 13 of 28 first place votes, 280 pts, beating Boston CF Jacoby Ellsbury, 242 pts, and Toronto RF Jose Bautista, 231 pts.
Woohoo!! That's awesome! Congrats, JV.
Congrats, JV. You and Willie will go down in modern Tigers lore for having glorious seasons worthy of both MVP and Cy Young awards.
This won't be popular around here since he's a Tiger but I don't agree in giving pitchers the MVP. They only affect about 30 games a year out of 162. I am a Yankee fan but I'd say the same thing if Sabathia had some monster year. It's not an anti Tiger thing either. If Cabrera won it over Granderson I wouldn't blink an eye. Pitchers have their own award. I felt the same when they gave it to Eckersly and Clemens too.
If your ace has a good game and pitchesinto the late innings, your relievers get rest and can be used more on other days.
Pitchers have their own award? And that's why MVP stands for Most Valuable Position-player? The same could be said for the Silver Slugger awards - that's the offensive players' award there. With that logic, is there even a need for an MVP?
1. If the Cy Young was "intended" to be the pitchers' equivalent of the MVP, Don Newcombe wouldn't have won the NL MVP while winning the first ever Cy Young. Since the advent of the Cy Young in 1956, pitchers have won the MVP 10 times now, which is only a little less than 1 in 9.
2. In terms of plate appearances, pitchers have about equal effect on a season as hitters do.
If people feel strongly about the idea that hitters should have their own award, maybe they should create one, but MVP is not MVH.
I'm not sure what the point of the 1956 cutoff is, but we've gone 18 years without a pitcher winning, so despite whatever happened 50+ years ago, its clearly becoming a position player's award. And I think an even more damning fact is that not even 1999 or 2000 Pedro Martinez could win the award. If that guy couldn't win the award, I'm not sure what pitcher deserved to.
about 1 out of every 5 games
Let me know when a position player affects 1 out of every 5 pitches in a game
Not that you cant have your opinion, but there is no one who deserved it more than he did this year in the AL. None of the other candidates did anything that amazing to win it. They all were pretty much the same just separated by regional voters for their good, not great seasons.
Ellsbury and Bautista certainly had great, MVP-worthy seasons. To suggest otherwise is even more myopic.
They all had very good seasons while JV's was spectacular.
can someone tell me how ellsbury even got 2nd place and that many votes and granderson did not crack the top3 ?
espn and their boston slappies
congrats JV !
Well if you're a fan of sabermetric analysis, Ellsbury had the highest WAR (9.4) of any player. Granderson was 8th at 7.0
Congrats to JV on a much deserved MVP award.
Jersey there was some research done comparing hitters impact to the game compared to pitchers and even though pitchers play in far less games then the hitters if I am not mistaken it showed that the 30 or so games an ace pitches in are actually more impactful then the hitters.
This is a felonious victory. He trailed Sabathia in xFIP by 0.23%. I bet these voters watch baseball with their girlfriends instead of studying late-inning amortization tables like real baseball fans. /s
Wins, K's, and ERA. Led the league. Done. No way CC was in the conversation.
JClay might be a nerd but you are clueless if you don't realize that was sarcasm.
When someone ends a statement with "/s" that means they were being sarcastic. I'm not the sabermetrics guy on here, I was just parodying debates that took place on here in September.
I came here to write: FUGGIN' HUGE I LOVE VERLANDER
Well-deserved, and a season that will be remembered because of it!
Nothing short of a spectcular...got it right with this selection.
Good for him, but he didn't deserve it.
As you wish. On a serious note, why not and who did you think deserved it?
JV is really starting to turn the tide in the rivalry. Hell, even people in MVP voting are starting to believe him. Never in a million years would I have believed that. Getting the Cy Young was a good start! /triedmybesttorememberitandadaptit
To say I witnessed 7 of his starts this year. This includes his 14 k game and the two near no-hitters vs Cleveland and Arizona as well as the Texas playoff win. Thank you, Justin, for an unforgettable year.