There will be soccer played tonight in the heartland of Ohio. A very desperate Mexico team, sporting 8 points in qualifying will come play the good guys. What was once unfathomable - a Mexico squad not qualifying for the World Cup - is now on the table, as Costa Rica, US, and Honduras are ahead of the team, with Panama only 1 point behind. Mexico will be desperate and the U.S. will be lacking it's best player, Mr. Bradley. The atmosphere should be electric...positively "Seattle-like". If only they had let me win the lottery for tickets - not that I am bitter.... (ok I'm bitter).
OT - USMNT v Mexico in Columbus
And what the fuck are you contributing to the board?
I think that trying to say you contribute more than a given user is a crapshoot, and unless you're one of the diarists, you're contributing the same amount. Nobody made you the judge on what people bring to the board or not
Butterfield has a point. That guy posts really dumb stuff all the time.
Also he downvoted this thread, which means he hates soccer or loves baseball. He didn't need to add his sarcastic post.
"Can't we all just get along?" - R. King.
You should really go back and read the asinine thing this guy posts. I don't always agree with what butterfield contributes, but at least his posts have substance.
now they have
Mexico currently has a new interim coach, so they'll come out fired up to play.
I could be coaching mexico and it would be a good game. This is only behind 1. OSU-UM 2. Purdue-Notre Dame 3. Yankees-Bosox 4. Lakers-Celtics in global importance. Ahem.
tend to have a dislike for Columbus, it has really been our defacto home field for soccer over the last decade. It has turned into the best place we can bring a team in and know we will have full support of the crowd. Cant wait.
Also, I dont think Bradley is our best player... He is our best midfielder tho
A case could me made for Dempsey, Howard, Bradley, or even Donovan (5 years ago no question it was Landon) ... I think a central midfielder is the brain of your system and sets up all the organization so I am biased there. The way the US played last week without Bradley was.... telling.
Of Mexico City, that can't be good for us.
Question for the soccer peeps...What happens if Mexico loses?
What happens if the US loses?
I.e. what are the scenarios that each need to do to make it into the Would Cup?
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Ahh, good info/charts. Much appreciated.
Sitting in section 110 at the moment.
Just curious, who in Columbus Ohio approved a color of yellow that is strikingly close to Michigan's Maize for the Crew? Different sport, but it's still Columbus.
Northwest soccer is a big deal. They average twice as many in attendence than can fit in Columbus. Plus Columbus is a cesspool that produces cheaters and crooks.
I would love future games in Seattle or Portland. The Seattle crowd a few months ago was AWESOME.
I don't disagree that Seattle and/or Portland both have great soccer crowds, but you should check out this Jeff Carlisle (ESPN) article:
Quick article summary is that they started playing in Columbus because:
1.They had a soccer only stadium that wasn't in an area where US fans could be out-numbered, like LA, especially 15 years ago when soccer wasn't as big
2. The US has a good history there, especially against Mexico, and just for the head games aspect, they might want to at least keep the US-Mexico games in Columbus
A win tonight and a loss by Panama and we're in. I'd love to have it wrapped up with two games to go.
It seems like we play Mexico once a month.
See table at bottom third of page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico%E2%80%93United_States_soccer_rivalry
Is there an advantage to finishing at the top of the hex. Do you get a more favorable path in the World Cup?
No it it is random draw once you qualify who you play. They create 4 team groups in the 1st round of the world cup and by definition usually Mexico or the U.S. get into what is called a "group of death" because they are (at least since the mid 90s) one of the better teams not in Europe or South America. So the way they generally do it is each group gets a European team, each group gets a South American team, and then they scatter teams from Concacaf (North/Central America), Asia, and Africa into the rest. I am simplyfing it but that is generally how it works... but it is completely random draw.
Sounds good. Thanks for the quick response.
Let's go USA..
But usn't there some sort of seeding? So at least you avoid 2 top tier teams (say Germany and Brazil) in the same group to start??
They go by geography more - i.e. the top european teams are split up, the top south american teams are split up. The FIFA "rankings" are generally garbage.
Well let me apologize to you - it appears in 2010 they actually did use the FIFA rankings more than in the past. Here is a wikipedia on how it worked. Sorry I didnt realize how they changed it a bit in 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_seeding
No worries, they seem to change their system a lot anyway.
There are 4 raffle boxes as far as I know, in the first there are 8 teams considered "Head of group" wich are the local team, the last champion and the 6 best seeded teams by FIFA rankings, then the remaining teams are accomodated in the next 3 raffle boxes according to the rankings (next best 8 in the 2nd box and so on) and they draw one team out of each box to set up the 8 groups for the world cup. At least that's how it was done, now idk if it's only for the first raffle box.
Yes I really simplified it. Generally you have a top European team, a top South American team in each group and then overflow European teams, North America/Central, Asia, and Africa sprinkled in. The home country gets a lock and the past champion etc. It is too complicated for newbies to go farther than that lol
I really hate Mexico.
I don't know where they rank, but it would be close behind MSU.
Dear National Anthem Singers,
I get that this might be your 1:30 of fame, but if the crowd is belting its lungs out singing along, just go with them and sing it right.
Isn't there usually a delay with the mic and what is being pumped into the speakers?
Among the worst renditions I've ever heard!
I'm not sure about Bedoya getting the start.
I have a feeling we might struggle early without MB90.
I love when the US plays Mexico. I root for Mexico when they play anyone but the US. Not tonight though. Go Red, White, and Blue!
Landon looks like he has a black eye
What the hell is wrong with Donovan's eye?
What the hell Beasley!!! Get it together man
Why was that not a hand ball? Beasley "kicked" to Howard, no?
It was inadvertant, so no handball
This looks really bad
Now we are settling in.
First 15 minutes - lots of sloppy play, no real build up by either team.