Why don't I feel bad for them? Oh yeah...Lane Kiffin is a douchebag
OT: USC's Class Continuing to Implode
Before you start rejoicing you better hope the domino effect doesn't take recruits from us.
the amount of sense your comment makes. What does USC losing recruits have to do with Michigan recruits? You think they'll all start heading for SoCal now that there are a few openings??
As a life long Michigan man that understands that troubles for a big program can set it back many many years...I really have just one thing to say to USC.
One has to wonder if there are sanctions on USC coming down the pipeline again, when one sees a mass exodus of recruits.
That's an all time low.
Would rather Vanderdoes goto USC than ND; he is a monster.
Hopefully he ends up at UCLA.
for as little as I follow USC-UCLA recuriting (which is very, very little) it seems like he is a strong UCLA lean.
Everyone other than Josh Helmholdt think he will be going to UCLA. Interesting how the mid west analyst is the only one who thinks he will go to ND.
About time UCLA balanced out the southern California recruiting.
Amazing how slick Rick plowed the program into the ground. Too bad they can't build a stadium closer to campus.
Yeah, it must be a real downer to play your home games in the greatest stadium in the country.
I get what you're saying, but I don't think playing in the Rose Bowl is what's holding UCLA back.
As a UCLA grad student, I didn't go to any football games this year because Pasadena is far, man. And granted, my loyalties lie elsewhere and there's a big difference between graduate and undergraduate student perceptions, but I get the strong feeling that people on campus give much less of a shit about football here than they might elsewhere, and I have to think that the stadium's location is part of that.
Greatest stadium my ass. Go back to the beach Left-Coast surfer boy, you've been smoking too much of that reefer.
ostrich races again, not this damn football
Moderation Scores need to have a special level for Herm... "(Score:6 Hermed)"
Rose Bowl (circa 1926)
Michigan Stadium (1927)
They were pretty similar back in your day...
You don't think it makes a difference in student attendance (who tend to be the most vocal, passionate fans) and gameday atmosphere when your stadium is ~20 miles, or 40 minutes, one-way, from campus?
It has to be great on those recruiting trips, when you go to UCLA, at the Rosebowl, against a ranked Oregon State team, with a stadium that is 60% to capacity.
I love west LA. UCLA's campus is beautiful. There is a lot to do within a 10 mile radius. Unfortunately, the Rose Bowl isn't one of them.
It probably affects student attendance somewhat, but when you have a stadium that holds 92k, students are never going to be the bulk of your attendees. Most of your alumni and fans are either in the San Fernando and San Gabriel Valleys, or outside of LA so Pasadena is far easier to get in and out of. The tailgating set up is incredible too. Keep in mind that UCLA is in the most expensive part of town, so most alumni, and certainly most all non-alumni fans, don't live there and when you don't live there, the westside is a nightmare to get in and out of.
I have a lot of UCLA pals out here, and they all love it.
Caused quite the stir in the Southland when it came out. After the season ended, radio guys suggested that the poster actually supplied the location that Rick was pointing to by including the object "there."
As in, "The Football Monopoly in Los Angeles is Officially Over There."
Wasn't that Mason and Ireland?
Rick didn't plow the program into the ground; it was already there. He simply failed to pull it out.
Even the NFL is having a hard time getting a stadium built in the LA area, anywhere. UCLA is just fortunate to not need to share space with USC anymore. Have you ever been to UCLA's campus?
Yes. My in-laws lived in Westwood for a year, then moved to the border of Santa Monica and Brentwood. We visit at least once a year.
I know there is no land to build on unless you obliterate the West LA-VA grounds. Or spend several billion to try to buyout some of the pricey golf courses.
I'm just saying that it really isn't a selling point having your stadium far off from your campus.
I don't think anyone is saying that having it off campus is the selling point. But lots of urban schools play football off campus, and if you're driving distance away, it might as well be at the Rose Bowl.
You could be like SC - stadium is adjacent to campus, but it's a pile of shit and is also in the hood.
Of their 11 commits, aren't like 4 of them 5-stars? It's still unreal.
Kiffin will have their talent whittled down to 3 star level in no time.
I can see Kiffin being a "players" coach kind of guy. He hypes you up and lets you ride your High School fame into college. Oh you were a 5 star? Its cool you don't have to practice today if you don't want to, you a baller son! The players probably love him and they get along great and then wonder why they go 6-7 and lose to Georgia Tech.
In response to your sn I have three things for you: Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica.
It's going to be hard to live up to 5-star talent without a supporting cast.
Penn State had a class like that in around 1999 or 2000. They only signed ten players but all of them were 4- and 5-star types (I don't know if it was customary for sites to use star rankings back then). Withn a couple seasons, they went from being a perennial national championship contender to being a sub-.500 team. I'm not saying that will happen at USC, but when you only bring in 11 players you aren't giving yourself much margin for error. You really need to role players and the depth in addition to the front-line stars.
Lane Kiffin's head is going to explode.
I wanna see this.
what Isaac is going to do?
doing on their campus.
USC lost as many 5* recruits as any other team has 5* in the country; Trojans still have more 5* than any team
Fight On & Go Blue
Together is gross. And wrong. And at the very least out of order.
the SC boards are also chatting about Fitts (the kid who was screwed in the McQuay deal) isn't going re-commit and is headed to UCLA.
How pumped up is he going to be for those USC-UCLA games. Getting screwed over by your dream school and then going to play for their in-town rival has to be a lot of motivation (to the extent that any player would need to get motivated to play USC).
The sanctions in general seem to have worked out pretty well for UCLA. USC is basically forced to take 10 or so less players than they typically would and it's seems like UCLA has been the biggest beneficiary.
Good for him. I hope he does sign with UCLA. That was a pretty shady dealing.
this is how a loss of scholarships should hit a program. not like what's going on at OSU.
by giving them arrogant, crappy coaches.
Couldn't happen to a better guy. This is just Lady Karma smacking Kiffin in the face for what he did at Tennessee.
One of the remarkable things about the last ten years of the Al Davis regime is that, for how crazy everyone believed Davis to be, and how unfair he seemed to be to his coaches, it turned out that the coaches he had trouble with were in fact totally insane. Davis can be held responsible for hiring them, but he turns out to look like the man in the right in his issues with guys like Kiffin.
If Kiffin keeps this up he's going to have to play people on both sides of the ball. Kiffin will screw USC into the ground then get fired and go ruin another program
Come on McQuay, come on!!!
He already enrolled.
Reverse Justin Fargas, plz?
I posted that link above, some relevant bits of info:
- Henry Poggi will sign with Michigan
- They are split 4 to 4 on where Von Bell goes (OSU or Tenn)
- Ezekiel Elliot will sign with OSU
- One guy thinks Cameron Hunt will sign with Michigan
the notion that OSU should be allowed to have room left to sign bell or eze is absurd.
To be fail Ezekiel Elliot has been committed to them since April of last year.
He just took a trip to Missouri last week so that is why the analysts weighed in on where he is going to sign.
I'm gonna enjoy OSU's inflated expectations, followed by the same train wreck that followed Meyer at Florida. Coming off of 12-0 and two great recruiting classes, the fall is gonna be even bigger.
Your post is at the delusion level of the average sparty.
That has to be old info, Hunt just declared for Oregon.
Hunt hasn't declared for anyone just yet. It's just widely assumed that he'll sign with Oregon now that he de-committed from Cal.
Technically, the class is EXploding, no?
the new coach after Lane's firing will have lots of roster flexibility in 2014.
Must be Lane's swan song if he lands only 10 or so in this class.
Has this ever happened to another school--losing so many prized recruits in the days before NSD? Is there something that happened that I missed? I get that Kiffin is a jerk etc., but why are so many of these guys just figuring that out, even while other guys (McQuay) are signing up? It is all really odd.
It is especially weird that so many are leaving now, one day before NSD. I doubt they did this but if they did conspire to decommit like this, then that is one impressive F*** You to Lane Kiffin. They have no time to poach UCLA or anyone else in the Pac 12 so they will either be filling out the class with Utah's walkons or, if they can, banking the scholarships and having a relatively high number next year.
Lane Kiffin will get fired then get a job running the NCAA. "Oh, you don't know what you are doing ever? I think that is all we need to hear...YOU ARE HIRED!"
I don't care if McQuay is enrolled. Un-enroll!!!!
Isn't Poggi scheduled to talk on WTKA with Sam Webb tommorrow?
And they're of course basin this on all that talking he's doing. That kid just can't help but run his mouth...
you compromise integrity over star status. I doubt the USC implosion happens if Mcquay doesn't commit to USC.
What if all this guys talked to each other and they agreed to screw Kiffin, like he has screwed so many recruits before? I don't think thats a far fetched idea. What do you guys think?
I think it's a far-fetched idea.
For some reason the concept that random teenagers would somehow band together in show of solidarity to stick it a guy who has done nothing but kiss THEIR respective ass for the past year or so seems unlikely. Especially when it might mean screwing themselves over if they dont have a "plan B" school as good as USC.
Nice try Shaggy.
I think that is a far fetched idea.
isn't even a class anymore, it should just be called USC's 2013 small group of football peers.
Pretty soon Octomom will have had more kids than this USC class.
Wow, Hatcher JUST recommitted to them too. For the record, despite Reuben Foster sommitting just yesterday, he still may sign with someone else tomorrow. From committing so early, to his familymoving to Auburn and getting the tattoo... to the visit to SDSU, and now this news??? I thought that Jordan Payton was bad last year....
...USC's recruiting class is loaded at the top with elite talent and Kiffin is a douche...it is not really that surprising that there have been so many decommits in this class.
However, since SC already has four 5 star recruits and three 4 star recruits including (LM3) enrolled early at SC AND Haden (for some unbeknownst reason) is committed to keeping Kiffin for at least another season...USC's class will be the envy of almost every college program out there (Michigan excluded!).
I can also say as someone whose family has 8 season tickets for SC football...I have not met a single SC alum that supports Kiffin and would like nothing more than to see him fired.
symbolized the USC grad perfectly - all style, no substance.
...you do not know too many USC grads. However, like most of your one liners, I agree Kiffin is all style, no substance.
Kiffin will done soon. I expect next year will be the last for him.
Alternatively USC can let the sanctions run out and then hire someone new.
(That 70s Show = underrated)
Hate on USC football all you want, but it's a very good school, and their graduates are very successful because of it. I get ripping on OSU or MSU for academics, but USC?
I don't think any of the top programs in the country will envy their class. Anyone knows you can't build any kind of long term success with a class of 11 kids, regardless of star power. I take a solid class of twelve four stars and twelve three stars over this USC class any day. For a team that already had major depth issues this season, this class is turning out to be disastrous for the Trojans.
Granted, it's a small sample size, but the average Rivals star ratings of the USC decommits is now higher than the still committed class of twelve athletes (4.33 to 4.00). That's a rather interesting achievement for the Kiffin era at USC.
If this USC class has the same rate of attrition as Kiffin's Tennessee recruiting class, their 2015 team will be composed of one extremely talented guy taking the snap and looking confused as 11 defenders pile onto him.
Um, the still committed class has 5-5stars and 7-4stars. How do you come up with 4.00 as the star average? I get 4.42.
You're right indeed. I flubbed on the calculation. My fail. Still, it will be interesting to see what this class looks like tomorrow when basically comparable talent to those staying has in fact decommitted. Apologies to the board.
Can USC players still transfer without penalty? Would be funny if some of their early enrollees decide to transfer after seeing so many of their classmates bail.
I hope we have another thread tomorrow discussing even more prospects decommitting from USC's recruiting class. Id imagine with the way USC's football program seems to be headed in a downward spiral, a couple those USC's recruits who already enrolled early could be having second thoughts about thier decision and its only the 1st week in February, yikes.
that's just too bad....
Oh, who am I kidding. This is fucking hysterical.
My Michigan Tree of Hate:
1) Ohio (Cheaters Sanctioned)
2) MSU (subject to change when they resume being not relevant this year; can't wait to see D'Antonio fall after his pride, get it?)
3) Notre Dame
4) USC (Cheaters Sanctioned)
5) Alabama and the SEC (Cheaters Allowed to Cheat)
6) Everyone else
to go to Kentucky?
Mark Stoops knows what he's doing. I really don't think this is a bad move on Hatcher's part. He'll almost certainly win fewer games, but he'll still get a good chance to play in the pros if he's worth the hype.
Last second offer to a DB who wasn't good enough before. I think it was a UDub recruit.
I'd much rather be headed to UW right now than SC.
The kid apparently called them back and said, and I quote, "LOLZ"
With my last breath I spit at thee.
For RoJo and Nick Perry
I would love some karma like this to hit ohio HARD! My bet is by Urbans third year he wont be able to hide how much of a douche he is and they will suffer the same fate.
If that isn't wishful thinking.... Good luck with that.
No shit its wishful thinking, thanks tips...
It gets funnier, Kylie Fitts, the DE who got screwed over when USC took McQuay just committed to UCLA. So not only do they lose a recruit they lose him to their main rivals because Kiffin can't do scholarship math.